Guest SteveJohnston Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 (edited) Hi All can anyone tell me the last Gordy track with the scribe top center logo? I have had a go at looking this up on a number of web sites and have found out that Gordy 7055 Temptations "beauty is only skin deep" was the first single to use the arrow design but some later numbers still bear the older design as pressing plants used all the old labels they had in stock, I have a 7056 Martha & the Vandellas "I'm ready for love" on the old and to my eye the best ever looking Gordy label. Steve J Edited May 21, 2007 by SteveJohnston
Philippe Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 I think it must be hard to determine such a thing, and it's possible that some records came with the 2 labels. But I'm not a specialist...
Guest SteveJohnston Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 I think it must be hard to determine such a thing, and it's possible that some records came with the 2 labels. But I'm not a specialist... Philippe 7055 and 7056 came out on both labels i know as i have them in my collection i was just trying to find out the last number to carry the scribed Gordy logo. Steve J
45cellar Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 (edited) Hi All can anyone tell me the last Gordy track with the scribe top center logo? I have had a go at looking this up on a number of web sites and have found out that Gordy 7055 Temptations "beauty is only skin deep" was the first single to use the arrow design but some later numbers still bear the older design as pressing plants used all the old labels they had in stock, I have a 7056 Martha & the Vandellas "I'm ready for love" on the old and to my eye the best ever looking Gordy label. Steve J Hi Steve Although I cannot say which are the last titles on both coasts to use the Old Design, or the First to use the new design. This may help. I agree that the Gordy Label with the Scripted Logo is one of the most attractive Labels ever. If you look at the Motown records in General you will find many slight variations, as they were pressed at different times and different pressing plants, in vast numbers. Regarding your question, there were East Coast and West Coast Presses of these discs. The West Coast Styrene Monarchs used the Scripted Gordy Design Logo a Little Longer than the East Coast. I have seen It's So Hard Being A Loser", "One Way Out" on the Scripted Gordy Design. They are a Brighter Purple in colour and Styrene. RE: Don't Look Back - DEMO BELOW I hope that this helps. Edited May 21, 2007 by 45cellar
Guest SteveJohnston Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Hi Steve Although I cannot say which are the last titles on both coasts to use the Old Design, or the First to use the new design. This may help. I agree that the Gordy Label with the Scripted Logo is one of the most attractive Labels ever. If you look at the Motown records in General you will find many slight variations, as they were pressed at different times and different pressing plants, in vast numbers. Regarding your question, there were East Coast and West Coast Presses of these discs. The West Coast Styrene Monarchs used the Scripted Gordy Design Logo a Little Longer than the East Coast. I have seen It's So Hard Being A Loser", "One Way Out" on the Scripted Gordy Design. They are a Brighter Purple in colour and Styrene. RE: Don't Look Back - DEMO BELOW I hope that this helps. Hi the ones i intrested in and trying to collect are the east coast vinyl much better looking then the styrene, I think it's the moulded lable that as the edge over the paper styrene lable. I'm trying to find all of them on stock copy think they would look nice on my wall from 7001 to 7056 the numbers i have are all in mint to mint- no drill holes you may think it's not a hard lable to collect till you start looking! Steve J
Guest Bogue Posted May 21, 2007 Posted May 21, 2007 Hi Steve Although I cannot say which are the last titles on both coasts to use the Old Design, or the First to use the new design. This may help. I agree that the Gordy Label with the Scripted Logo is one of the most attractive Labels ever. If you look at the Motown records in General you will find many slight variations, as they were pressed at different times and different pressing plants, in vast numbers. Regarding your question, there were East Coast and West Coast Presses of these discs. The West Coast Styrene Monarchs used the Scripted Gordy Design Logo a Little Longer than the East Coast. I have seen It's So Hard Being A Loser", "One Way Out" on the Scripted Gordy Design. They are a Brighter Purple in colour and Styrene. RE: Don't Look Back - DEMO BELOW I hope that this helps. Remember getting that, holding it up against the arrow design & thinking the bright purple script one must be a fake, i.e. to late for the script style & I had never seen such a bright purple one before. Was going to sell it for 50p till i eventually found out, still got it thankfully.
45cellar Posted May 22, 2007 Posted May 22, 2007 (edited) Remember getting that, holding it up against the arrow design & thinking the bright purple script one must be a fake, i.e. to late for the script style & I had never seen such a bright purple one before. Was going to sell it for 50p till i eventually found out, still got it thankfully. Hi Yes, I remember seeing "Its So Hard Being A Loser" in the 70s. I was going to buy it but changed my mind, suprisingly rare, as you just dont see them too often. The "One Way Out" - West Coast Scripted Gordy - LOOKS INCREDIBLE and is the Label to have it on, if you can find one. I think I have only ever seen two, not too expensive but definitely not easy in my experience. G-7056 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS I'M READY FOR LOVE / HE DOESN'T LOVE HER ANYMORE Of the records below, The ones in Purple I have seen the Gordy Script Label, However, they were West Coast Styrene Monarch with the Bright Purple Label. Often wondered if Festival Time was ever on the Scripted Gordy, as I've never seen one. G 7058 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS JIMMY MACK / THIRD FINGER, LEFT HAND G 7059 THE CONTOURS IT'S SO HARD BEING A LOSER / YOUR LOVE GROWS MORE PRECIOUS EVERYDAY G-7060 SAN REMO GOLDEN STRINGS FESTIVAL TIME / JOY ROAD G 7062 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS LOVE BUG LEAVE MY HEART ALONE / ONE WAY OUT G 7063 EDWIN STARR TWENTY-FIVE MILES / LOVE IS MY DESTINATION Incidently, I notice on Manships Site there is G-7070 Badge Design I don't know, but I would assume West Coast. Edited May 22, 2007 by 45cellar
Guest SteveJohnston Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Hi the ones i intrested in and trying to collect are the east coast vinyl much better looking then the styrene, I think it's the moulded lable that as the edge over the paper styrene lable. I'm trying to find all of them on stock copy think they would look nice on my wall from 7001 to 7056 the numbers i have are all in mint to mint- no drill holes you may think it's not a hard lable to collect till you start looking! Steve J One more number to had to the east coast vinyl Scripted Logo 7057 Temptations "(i know) i'm losing you 1966 with the brill "i couldn't cry if i wanted to" from 1963 on the flip . if anyone as a later number on vinyl scripted logo
Sebastian Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 (edited) G 7063 EDWIN STARR TWENTY-FIVE MILES / LOVE IS MY DESTINATION This is actually 7083. 7063 exists with scripted design on vinyl: 7061 as well, but this time on styrene: Edited May 29, 2008 by Sebastian
Guest SteveJohnston Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 This is actually 7083. 7063 exists with scripted design on vinyl: 7061 as well, but this time on styrene: Would love to find ALL the numbers from 7057 to 7063 but after looking out for the scripted vinyl later numbers over the last few years it is not going to be a easy task but at least I know there is a good chance there out there to be found, it looks like the east coast pressing plants that worked for Gordy had load's of scripted blanks when Gordy changed to the arrow design as did the west coast. I must be fukin nuts trying to find them all ............... Steve J
Guest SteveJohnston Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 (edited) This is actually 7083. 7063 exists with scripted design on vinyl: 7061 as well, but this time on styrene: Hi Sebastian I managed to find and buy this on Ebay! This as taken my collecting of everthing on East coast scripted Gordy way beyond anything like I was thinking of trying to find It's also made it god dam hard to have all the scripted Gordy from 7001 to 7080 east coast near impossible Anyone have a later number? Steve J Edited June 18, 2008 by SteveJohnston
Our Kid Posted June 18, 2008 Posted June 18, 2008 Hi Yes, I remember seeing "Its So Hard Being A Loser" in the 70s. I was going to buy it but changed my mind, suprisingly rare, as you just dont see them too often. The "One Way Out" - West Coast Scripted Gordy - LOOKS INCREDIBLE and is the Label to have it on, if you can find one. I think I have only ever seen two, not too expensive but definitely not easy in my experience. G-7056 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS I'M READY FOR LOVE / HE DOESN'T LOVE HER ANYMORE Of the records below, The ones in Purple I have seen the Gordy Script Label, However, they were West Coast Styrene Monarch with the Bright Purple Label. Often wondered if Festival Time was ever on the Scripted Gordy, as I've never seen one. G 7058 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS JIMMY MACK / THIRD FINGER, LEFT HAND G 7059 THE CONTOURS IT'S SO HARD BEING A LOSER / YOUR LOVE GROWS MORE PRECIOUS EVERYDAY G-7060 SAN REMO GOLDEN STRINGS FESTIVAL TIME / JOY ROAD G 7062 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS LOVE BUG LEAVE MY HEART ALONE / ONE WAY OUT G 7063 EDWIN STARR TWENTY-FIVE MILES / LOVE IS MY DESTINATION Incidently, I notice on Manships Site there is G-7070 Badge Design I don't know, but I would assume West Coast. G-7060 exists on script - bright purple colouring Paul
Guest Gogs Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 i have these numbers with the arrow design 7061- temptations - all i need / sorry is a sorry word 7062- martha & the vandellas - one way out / love bug leave my heart alone 7071- edwin starr - my weakness is you / i am the man for you baby 7075- martha reeves & the vandellas - i can't dance to that music you're playing / i tried hope this is some help does anybody know why some records were listed as martha & the vandellas and others as martha reeves & the vandellas
45cellar Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 G-7060 exists on script - bright purple colouring Paul Wow, I missed this when Posted, Any chance of a scan. I certainly haven't seen one before. EVER Gotta be It's Rarest Format, Surely.
45cellar Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 i have these numbers with the arrow design 7061- temptations - all i need / sorry is a sorry word 7062- martha & the vandellas - one way out / love bug leave my heart alone 7071- edwin starr - my weakness is you / i am the man for you baby 7075- martha reeves & the vandellas - i can't dance to that music you're playing / i tried hope this is some help does anybody know why some records were listed as martha & the vandellas and others as martha reeves & the vandellas Not sure why they decided to Use Martha Reeves & The Vandellas, Opposed to Martha & The Vandellas. Anyone Know Why?
Steve Edgar Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 Not sure why they decided to Use Martha Reeves & The Vandellas, Opposed to Martha & The Vandellas. Anyone Know Why? I guess Roger coz Martha wanted some cred, bit like Miss Dross when it wern't just The Supremes anymore. I note the great Levi never wanted to distance himself from the Tops ever! wonder if David Ruffin ever wanted the same in the Tempt's and that's why they told him to p**s off and got someone else? steve
Guest SteveJohnston Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 Wow, I missed this when Posted, Any chance of a scan. I certainly haven't seen one before. EVER Gotta be It's Rarest Format, Surely. I have been told that 7060 is out there to be found on the East and West coast scripted Gordy by more than one US dealer! BUT i have never seen one! IF one turns up on East Coast i would defo want to buy it Steve J
45cellar Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 I guess Roger coz Martha wanted some cred, bit like Miss Dross when it wern't just The Supremes anymore. I note the great Levi never wanted to distance himself from the Tops ever! wonder if David Ruffin ever wanted the same in the Tempt's and that's why they told him to p**s off and got someone else? steve Hi Steve Almost certainly the case, now you mention it. Gotta give Levi Credit for not following this trend. I believe that they still consider him as a Member of the Group even though he is Unable to Perform. So Nice to see this within a Group.
45cellar Posted June 28, 2008 Posted June 28, 2008 (edited) I have been told that 7060 is out there to be found on the East and West coast scripted Gordy by more than one US dealer! BUT i have never seen one! IF one turns up on East Coast i would defo want to buy it Steve J Hi Steve It does follow that It should be there, Just Elusive to say the least. Hope you find one Mate. It'll one of those that suddenly turns up on ebay when you least expect it. Happened to me with "One Way Out" West Coast Scripted on ebay. I stupidly failed to capture the moment, Outbid at the last minute and It was cheap too. Edited June 28, 2008 by 45cellar
Our Kid Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 Wow, I missed this when Posted, Any chance of a scan. I certainly haven't seen one before. EVER Gotta be It's Rarest Format, Surely. Will dig it out tonight and scan for ya! Never mind the format what a sound - always thought this one from Ric Tic woke Berry Gordy up to the threat on his doorstep! Paul
Guest Netspeaky Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 I think it must be hard to determine such a thing, and it's possible that some records came with the 2 labels. But I'm not a specialist... Lee & The Leopards 7002 was the first release on Gordy even though the Temps first release on Gordy was 7001, this was due to it being rushed released to cope with massive demand after Prentiss Anderson (The guy with the deep voice) pulled in numerous favours by getting it played on radio immediately he was given a box of demos. In fact Motown couldn't cope with the demand so Berry Gordy did a deal with New York label Laurie to get extra copies out.
Guest SteveJohnston Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 Will dig it out tonight and scan for ya! Never mind the format what a sound - always thought this one from Ric Tic woke Berry Gordy up to the threat on his doorstep! Paul Truley brill track from Ric-Tic Talking about Rarest Format VIP is a label that i have only had about three records on but i've never seen this design before or have i just not been looking!
funkyfeet Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 Truley brill track from Ric-Tic Talking about Rarest Format VIP is a label that i have only had about three records on but i've never seen this design before or have i just not been looking! Lots on releases on this design.
Guest SteveJohnston Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 Lots on releases on this design. I have seen the plane yellow VIP label but never noticed the two lines each side of the centre I was sure that my old copy of this track did not have them! Ha well I Should have gone to spec savers Steve J
Philippe Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 Lots on releases on this design. According to Don Waller's book, VIP 25000 to 20023 where on this yellow label, but I suppose there must be some exceptions ? Here is the discography : VIP
45cellar Posted June 30, 2008 Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) Will dig it out tonight and scan for ya! Never mind the format what a sound - always thought this one from Ric Tic woke Berry Gordy up to the threat on his doorstep! Paul Hi Paul Thanks Mate Here are the Copies that I have. Edited June 30, 2008 by 45cellar
Our Kid Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 (edited) West Coast Styrene Edited February 4, 2009 by our kid
45cellar Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 (edited) East Coast Styrene Hi Paul Thanks for Posting this one Mate, as I said earlier, It's gotta be it's rarest format. Definitely the First Time that I have seen one. Edited July 2, 2008 by 45cellar
Guest SteveJohnston Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 quote name='45cellar' date='Jul 2 08, 09:56 AM' post='805510'] Hi Paul Thanks for Posting this one Mate, as I said earlier, It's gotta be it's rarest format. Definitely the First Time that I have seen one.
Guest SteveJohnston Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) quote name='45cellar' date='Jun 28 08, 11:16 AM' post='802540'] Hi Steve It does follow that It should be there, Just Elusive to say the least. Hope you find one Mate. It'll one of those that suddenly turns up on ebay when you least expect it. Happened to me with "One Way Out" West Coast Scripted on ebay. I stupidly failed to capture the moment, Outbid at the last minute and It was cheap too. Edited March 10, 2009 by SteveJohnston
Guest carl_p Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Have the temps xmas single 7082 with the scrip label. i'll post a scan later.
45cellar Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 quote name='45cellar' date='Jun 28 08, 11:16 AM' post='802540'] Hi Steve It does follow that It should be there, Just Elusive to say the least. Hope you find one Mate. It'll one of those that suddenly turns up on ebay when you least expect it. Happened to me with "One Way Out" West Coast Scripted on ebay. I stupidly failed to capture the moment, Outbid at the last minute and It was cheap too. Roger at last the very very hard to find 7060 steve J Hi Steve Extremely Pleased For You Mate. I Would Rate This As One Of The Hardest To Obtain With The Gordy Script. Surprised That There Wasn't More Interest Shown In Such A Rarity.
Guest carl_p Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) It also came on the arrow label. Edited March 11, 2009 by carl_p
Guest noss Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 quote name='45cellar' date='Jul 2 08, 09:56 AM' post='805510'] Hi Paul Thanks for Posting this one Mate, as I said earlier, It's gotta be it's rarest format. Definitely the First Time that I have seen one. Yes Paul very nice to see that, now as anyone got a east coast one for sale? Going back to the VIP label! [ No need to go to spec savers! Steve J Going back to the lined V I P scan again, My WD copy has the lines on also, looks like a west coast Monarch press.
45cellar Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) It also came on the arrow label. Hi Carl Many Thanks For Posting. Gordy Is Such A Beautiful Label. Sort Of Makes Me Wonder Who Ultimately Decided To Make The Design Change, A Decision That Has Created These Rarities. Regarding The V.I.P. Label. The Basic Yellow Colour & Logo But With Subtle Differences, With Lines, Without Lines, Staggered V.I.P., Straight V.I.P., Logo At Top, Logo At Side, etc Possibly Changed More Than Any Other Motown Related Stock Copy. Until The Yellow Orange Design. Wonder If It Was Printers Artistic Licence Or A Deliberate Planned Change For Reasons Long Forgotten. Edited March 11, 2009 by 45cellar
Guest SteveJohnston Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 It also came on the arrow label. Carl I'm now looking for 7082 & on to 7083 - Edwin Starr - Twenty Five Miles / Love Is My Destination scripted Steve J
45cellar Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Hi Yes, I remember seeing "Its So Hard Being A Loser" in the 70s. I was going to buy it but changed my mind, suprisingly rare, as you just dont see them too often. The "One Way Out" - West Coast Scripted Gordy - LOOKS INCREDIBLE and is the Label to have it on, if you can find one. I think I have only ever seen two, not too expensive but definitely not easy in my experience. G-7056 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS I'M READY FOR LOVE / HE DOESN'T LOVE HER ANYMORE Of the records below, The ones in Purple I have seen the Gordy Script Label, However, they were West Coast Styrene Monarch with the Bright Purple Label. Often wondered if Festival Time was ever on the Scripted Gordy, as I've never seen one. G 7058 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS JIMMY MACK / THIRD FINGER, LEFT HAND G 7059 THE CONTOURS IT'S SO HARD BEING A LOSER / YOUR LOVE GROWS MORE PRECIOUS EVERYDAY G-7060 SAN REMO GOLDEN STRINGS FESTIVAL TIME / JOY ROAD G 7062 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS LOVE BUG LEAVE MY HEART ALONE / ONE WAY OUT G 7063 EDWIN STARR TWENTY-FIVE MILES / LOVE IS MY DESTINATION Incidently, I notice on Manships Site there is G-7070 Badge Design I don't know, but I would assume West Coast. Slowly Getting There, I Have A Badge West Coast Jimmy Mack In The Post Hopefully. This One Arrived Today, Obviously Using Up The Label Blanks At The Design Change. First Time I Had Seen One Like This, Wondered If It Was Unique To This Release. G 7058 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS JIMMY MACK / THIRD FINGER, LEFT HAND G 7059 THE CONTOURS IT'S SO HARD BEING A LOSER / YOUR LOVE GROWS MORE PRECIOUS EVERYDAY Edited April 8, 2009 by 45cellar
Sebastian Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Have never seen that variation. Thought it was a mispress first, but the lettering is clearly positioned with having the Gordy logo on the left in mind. Nice find!
45cellar Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) Have never seen that variation. Thought it was a mispress first, but the lettering is clearly positioned with having the Gordy logo on the left in mind. Nice find! Thanks Mate. Exactly my thoughts at first, then as you mention I noticed the Text deliberately Positioned to coincide with Logo, Same Position as the with New Logo. Edited April 8, 2009 by 45cellar
Sebastian Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Exactly my thoughts at first, then as you mention I noticed the Text deliberately Positioned to coincide with Logo, Same Position as the with New Logo. You're absolutely right. Very nice scans! That scripted logo on the left side looks great, will try to track down one of those.
45cellar Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) You're absolutely right. Very nice scans! That scripted logo on the left side looks great, will try to track down one of those. It is a Styrene Press, Not A Monarch, Looks very similar to a ZTSC. Scratched "T1", Scratched "G-7058", STAMPED "R 4 K M - 9 9 5 4 - 1 c", Scratched "V091123" Edited April 8, 2009 by 45cellar
Guest Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Hi Yes, I remember seeing "Its So Hard Being A Loser" in the 70s. I was going to buy it but changed my mind, suprisingly rare, as you just dont see them too often. The "One Way Out" - West Coast Scripted Gordy - LOOKS INCREDIBLE and is the Label to have it on, if you can find one. I think I have only ever seen two, not too expensive but definitely not easy in my experience. G-7056 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS I'M READY FOR LOVE / HE DOESN'T LOVE HER ANYMORE Of the records below, The ones in Purple I have seen the Gordy Script Label, However, they were West Coast Styrene Monarch with the Bright Purple Label. Often wondered if Festival Time was ever on the Scripted Gordy, as I've never seen one. G 7058 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS JIMMY MACK / THIRD FINGER, LEFT HAND G 7059 THE CONTOURS IT'S SO HARD BEING A LOSER / YOUR LOVE GROWS MORE PRECIOUS EVERYDAY G-7060 SAN REMO GOLDEN STRINGS FESTIVAL TIME / JOY ROAD G 7062 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS LOVE BUG LEAVE MY HEART ALONE / ONE WAY OUT G 7063 EDWIN STARR TWENTY-FIVE MILES / LOVE IS MY DESTINATION Incidently, I notice on Manships Site there is G-7070 Badge Design I don't know, but I would assume West Coast. I have an immaculate 'One Way Out' on the purple and yes it looks great, bought it in New York for 10 dollars.
45cellar Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 Slowly Getting There, I Have A Badge West Coast Jimmy Mack In The Post Hopefully. This One Arrived Today, Obviously Using Up The Label Blanks At The Design Change. First Time I Had Seen One Like This, Wondered If It Was Unique To This Release. G 7058 MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS JIMMY MACK / THIRD FINGER, LEFT HAND G 7059 THE CONTOURS IT'S SO HARD BEING A LOSER / YOUR LOVE GROWS MORE PRECIOUS EVERYDAY West Coast "JIMMY MACK" Arrived This Morning.
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