The Yank

I guess it wasn't obvious I was being 100% completely sarcastic with the Doris Day theory. I should probably clear up a few more things : 1) I don't think Buddy Holly "left-handedly created the Motown Soul Empire for Berry Gordy". 2) I don't think Doris Day "left-handedly created the Motown Soul Empire for Berry Gordy". But.... if someone believes either of the two ideas are correct, that's fine with me. I think everyone has the right to their own opinion. I'll say no more .

It's very easy to make the Doris Day connection. But bear with me- as I don't have the book in front of me. If I get any of the facts wrong- I hope someone corrects me. In his book "To Be Loved", Berry says that one of the earliest songs he ever wrote was intended for Doris Day. I think he mailed it to her and never heard anything about it again. So...isn't possible that after that experience, that Mr. Gordy strove even harder for success, worked on his writing style, and became a better songwriter which eventually made him start Motown? To me- there's just as strong of a connection here as with Buddy Holly.

First things first, when I used your post, I meant no offense towards you. I didn't want to put "referring back to post #3,....." So, I just reposted it since everything was there. If I offended you, I apologize. I still think that the connection is weak at best. You could also make a strong argument that Doris Day left handedly created the Motown sound.

That may be true but.... if Berry Gordy had already written hits for Jackie Wilson, why would one song written "in the Buddy Holly style" suddenly encourage Berry Gordy to "move onto greater things musically" ?? I think the author is taking a few liberties with the facts?

One copy was just posted in the sales section in SS today.

Here's a few more for your consideration- Mary Wells- "You Lost The Sweetest Boy" Four Tops- "Where Did You Go" *** *** I know it's a B side but still very well known.

Pm'ed you .

Question for you- I was thinking of getting the Philly Int'l set. When I clicked on the link , I went to a shipping info page which listed all European countries and it said- not available in other countries. Then I clicked on the shipping info button and it went to another page that said shipping is avaliable in the U.S.. I'm confused .........

I saw 14,543p with 11 seconds to go and then it crashed on me.

Here's a few more for the list- "Baby Reconsider" by Leon Haywood borrows a lot from "Just A Little Misunderstanding" by the Contours. "One In A Million" by Maxine Brown sounds like a slowed down "Uptight" by Stevie Wonder. "Choppin' Around" by Jimmy Wisner is almost the same song as "Hungry For Love" by the San Remo Strings. The next two aren't really Northern ... "Are You Lonely For Me Baby" by Freddie Scott was obviously influenced by "Searchin' For My Love" by Bobby Moore. "Build Me Up Buttercup" by the Foundations is extremely close to "I'll Turn To Stone" by the Four Tops.

A demo copy of this just turned up on Manship's web site. It has all the information you might need on how to tell the difference between the original copy and the bootleg.

Thanks for putting this on Soul Source! Love the story and being able to see all the memorabilia from the early days at Motown!

Great article- glad to see the group getting some recognition !

Gloria Jones' "Come Go With Me" clocks in at 1:53.

I've never seen one of those in the U.S.- I would almost swear that's a boot !

Just checked- current price- 1527p .

The Swingin' Tigers was really Bean Bowles and his band so the first white artist would be Debbie Dean with "Don't Let Him Shop Around " on Motown #1007.

Nick and the Jaguars were before Debbie Dean but I'm not sure who was in the group. Does anyone know anything about the Swingin' Tigers ?

One was just recently listed on Manship's web site. Wonder what that one will go for...

If you look at one of the footnotes at the end of the article, it's says Jerry Ross used Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson and Melba Moore as a backup group - that's probably who you're hearing .

I didn't think you were looking for the C + C Music Factory but thought it was worth a try. Thanks for posting the clip- great song!

It did come out in the U.S. but not as a single- it was available on the "Ruff And Ready" album.

If the line was "gonna make you sweat", it might be "Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now)" by C & C Music Factory ?

By the time the Mynah Birds signed to V.I.P. , the group consisted of Rick James, Neil Young, John Taylor, Bruce Palmer and Rick Mason.

I was listening to the radio awhile ago and heard an advertisement for Marshall Thompson's book "Last Man Standing" - this was the first I heard of it. Just wondered if anyone has had a chance to read it and what they thought of the book.