The Yank

The production company sure lived up to it's name. The Holidays' version of "Love's Creepin' Up On Me" makes no mention of Enigmatic Productions but United Image's version over the same track is now an Enigmatic Production ?

After listening to both versions back to back on "The Complete Motown Singles...1965", I did find one difference between the 2 versions. On the original mix (...312), Brenda ends the song by singing "What Are You Gonna Do When I'm Gone" four times. On the 2nd version (...209), Brenda ends the song by singing "What Are You Gonna Do When I'm Gone " five times. This version did last longer- some copies have the time as 2:05, some as 2:10- maybe Motown didn't want to have to re-do the time on the labels and left it as is? "When I'm Gone" was a big seller for Brenda- it went to #25 Pop and Soul -#12 on the Billboard charts.

According to Manship's 6the edition price guide, the 312 mix is harder to find on stock copies versus the 209 mix which is commoner. I just listened to both versions back to back and can't notice much of a difference between the 2 mixes.

Another Fantastic Four ad. This one gets the group's name right -

From the May 30th, 1964 issue of Cashbox -

Another bit - (Cashbox September 10, 1966)

If you look on you tube, there is a post from her daughter who says Joan was born and raised in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

"Call Me" went all the way to #22 on Miami's WMBM-

Not sure what happened to Mr. Z. but for anyone who wants the latest results- here they are- all copies are U.S. unless noted. All prices in pounds- Edwin Starr - "War" Tamla- Motown U.K. promo- 85 Wilson Williams- ABC LP- 136 Framed Motown Memorabilia- 121 Lorraine Barnes- "I'm Your Lady" + 3- U.K. 12"- 124 Gentlemen Four- "You Can't Keep..." - Wand DJ - 616 Barons of Soul - "You Need Love" - U.K. Grapevine- 155 Creations- "Remember Me" 1 sided acetate/ dub #4086- 117 Pointer Sisters- "Send Him Back" Atlantic promo- 415 Parliaments- "This is My Rainy Day" - 2218 Jerry McCain- "Courtin' In A Cadillac" - Excello- 156 Johnny Caswell - "You Don't Love Me"- Decca DJ - 505 Soul Brothers 6- "Thank You Baby.." Atlantic DJ- 139 Frankie Valli/ 4 Seasons- Mowest U.K. #3002- 164 The Vals - "Too Late" Ascot DJ- 243 Willie Tee- "Walkin'..." - NOLA - 176 Magicians/ Willie Walker- 100 Club/ Kent U.K.- 401 Sweet James Epps- "Love At First Sight"- Motorpool- 891 Natural Four- "I Thought You Were Mine"- ABC promo - 355

Doesn't make much sense does it? The only thing I can think of is- if you click on the promo of "My Dear Heart", someone posted that according to EMI's "For Northern Soul Collectors " comp- the single came out in 1968. The same year is used for the "Talcum Soul 2" comp. So - it could have been an error that was carried over to "For Northern Soul Collectors' comp . I don't know that much about the inner workings of record companies so there might be a reason they used 1968 for the release of the issue copy. Nowhere in the liner notes does it state the promo came out in 1966 and the issue came out in 1968. I don't know why discogs is using 1968 for the issue copy (see #8).

To make things even more confusing, the pic shown with "'Spinnin' Top" as the A side has the Calla address as 1650 Broadway, the pic showing "Spinning Top" as the B side has the Calla address as 1631 Broadway . The 1650 to 1631 address change occurred somewhere around #120 which would suggest the "Spinning Top" as a B side is the later pressing.

I checked "The Complete Motown Singles Vol 5- 1965 " and there is no info on the group.

It's hard to say what the intended A side was for the Orlons 45. The single was never reviewed in the trades (Billboard, Cashbox or Record World) and Calla never took out an ad promoting the single. While looking at Radio activity, it's strange so many stations played "Anyone..." in May and then in October even more stations went with "Spinning Top". This article from June '66 makes it look like "Spinning Top" was the A side -

Not 100% sure but it appears from these 2 surveys that when the 45 was first released (May'66) that "Anyone..." was the A side (#32 on the WROV survey). A few months later, some stations jumped on the B side (#25 on the WDAS survey) and "Spinning Top" became the A side -

Here's another one for the list circa October of 1973 -

Is version #3 , the song that was recut in 1971 ? That track sounds it was done much later than '66. Also, where does "Baby Have Mercy On Me" fit in? I know the Don't Forget The Motor City has it listed as an alternative title to "Suspicion" but, does a version exist with the "Baby Have Mercy On Me" lyrics ?

I don't which Atlantic employee worked with the Trade papers in the 60's but, here are 2 more examples of releases that never came out on Atlantic-

After the local success of "Joey" (#7 on the WBEE chart) it was decided that Miss Madeline was going to be spun off as a solo artist. There was no second Young Folks 45. The "maturer young men" you mentioned on "Behave Yourself" are actually Patrice Suggs and Marlene Lee (this is from the liner notes from the Young Folks sections which someone else may want to post) .

Oh ye of little faith ......

Slow down- According to the liner notes of Secret Stash's "Mar-V-Lus-The One-Derful Collection" , The Young Folk's original lead singer Arthur Mcthune says the group singing on "Heaven Is In Your Arms' is made up of Arthur, Miss Madeline, Patrice Suggs and Marlene Lee. According to Arthur, Otis Hayes wanted him to join the Admirations but he decided to stay in his group the Competitors. As an aside Madeline, Patrice and Marlene added John Sibley and became The Love Column on Duo.

Of course it's not a match- the lead on "Joey" is Miss Madeline. That's why I thought it was possible the lead was one of the guys in the group for "Heaven Is In Your Arms".

Here's an alternative to your theory. One-derful/ Mar-V-Lus also had another Kid group around the same time as the Admirations and Jackson Five. And this group also was working with Hayes and Jones. If the Young Folk used another lead vocal and put Miss Madeline in the chorus, it's also possible it could be them.

Here's a nice shot of Bunky Sheppard and Ernie Leaner with some Chicago Radio talent- WVON's E. Rodney Jones, WMPP's Eddie Holland ( not the H-D-H Eddie), WGRT's Eddie Morrison and WVON's Lucky Cordell -

Found this on you tube- it's the group with WVON'S Herb Kent -