George G

Most of the Mercury family pressings were done by Richmond Plastics (I think that's the name) in Richmond, Indiana. The same place also did custom jobs, the Vondells on Airtown would be one of them, a record that has the same problems as Mercury related records like Kenny Carlton on Blue Rock. The Richmond plant, together with the CBS/Columbia pressing plant in Terre Haute on the other side of the state means Indiana was the Styrene State of record pressings - balanced out by the huge vinyl pressing plant for RCA in Indianapolis.

the Moroccos from Dayton, aka Morocco Muzik Makers aka Little Woo Woo, they were the Moroccos in Dayton but because of the other groups you cited they were not able to use that name on records.

Donnie Murphy and the Ambassadors were from Dayton, OH. No connection to the Cleveland Ambassadors, or any other Ambassadors record. Donnie died of a heart attack not long after the record came out. Either he, or some one(s) else in the group were related to member(s) of the Moroccos.

Symphonics on Dee Jon were from Akron, OH. DeBose has no connection to the DeBrossard label.

Uptown managed to last for 60+ 45s and a few LPs without having any real big hits...I suppose Gloria Jones was their most successful artist, considering all her records turn up pretty often. The strangest Uptown release is the Shotgun Express 45, I think that might be their only non-US artist.

Ian, Arnie Rosenberg the audio engineer is not the guy you met, for what that's worth. George

If you want to know about Arnie Rosenberg I can ask a friend who worked with Arnie for several years. Arnie passed away some years ago. Agency Recording burned down in 1984.

Ambassadors on Uptown were from Cleveland. Same group later released a 45 on DeBrossard that got some local sales. Not sure where it was recorded, my source for info on the group didn't bother to answer that question, but it was far more likely recorded in Cleveland or Detroit. Cleveland had a couple local Capitol sales reps/A&R types so many local artists (not just soul) put out records on Capitol and other labels.

Gloria and the T-Airas

Steve Karmen contributed the music to this movie. The title song (with vocals) came out as a 45, I remember seeing the record when it was released. I've seen the film, it's really an interesting snapshot of cultural norms (and not so norms) of the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Do_You_Say_to_a_Naked_Lady%3F

I meant to say was it ever released on a 45 for the DJ market, a normal 45, not a carver, sorry. The answer then is no, looks like. I prefer Dusty to Nancy, but Nancy is a nice jazzed up version.

RE: above comments - Supremes on Ace were from Columbus, OH, amazingly they continued to use the name into the 1970s! There was another non-recorded Supremes from another Ohio city. The Originals (Suspension) from Cleveland not related to the Detroit group. A couple former members of the Outsiders were in the group.

I heard this for the first time yesterday thanks to the Sirius/XM radio show "Chris Carter's British Invasion". Looks like it recorded for the Saturday Club TV show and only available on a CD - was there ever a 'carver' or such made of this? I would like one, think it would go over well at the soul nights here in the US.

yes, "That's Alright" is a hard record to get, even though there was two pressings. It's the same song the O'Jays recorded, written by Walt Williams and Jerry Baxter

the most overplayed record at our US soul nights, been hearing it at parties, etc since the 1980s, when you all in the UK complain about tired overplayed oldies, I get it, mainly because of this record.

the Ice on Great Northwest were Americans relocated to France, not the same band as "Reality". It's a mystery to us here in Seattle how they were released on this local label, but the record is still pretty easy to find around here. There is a custom label sleeve that is white with the label logo printed in green. (edit) I see the origin of this band was already mentioned above

Emanons is a good instrumental from c. 1960 - but repressed a few times, the copy pictured here looks like a repress. Cory Glover was (is?) the lead singer for the US band Living Colour. If this is really him, it's probably a recent recording.

thanks for the replies but I am after the original blue GB, amended my list, sorry to have wasted your time.

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Yes, most or all of the 1968 OP / Brantley stuff (including the Observations in Time LP) was done in NYC. Brantley was definitely in the NYC area. You can probably count on two (maybe one) hands the total number of soul records recorded in Cleveland in 1968. From Fremont, OH, 70 miles west. The only soul record I recall on Courier was by Ike Perry and the Lyrics who were from Cleveland.

You're kidding, I hope. There are 7 cities in Ohio (Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton, Akron, Youngstown, Toledo) that produced more soul (Northern and general soul) than Seattle. At least we can partly claim Quincy Jones, although he had to leave to make it big. In general, you can take the largest metropolitan areas in the US during the mid 1960s and 1970s, rank them in population, and that would be the list.

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All genres of music are different. There are some all time legendary doowop rarities that still go for top money - for example, the Sha-Weez on Aladdin on ebay this past week. Most of the rare doowop records I've dealt in the past few years have gone to long time collectors who are late 60s/70s in age, so you can assume that once they get too old, that market is gone for good. The cheap/common doowop records started tanking 10+ years ago and are still going down. Not much new blood coming into the market. The best way to gauge future record values is to see the age group who are most actively buying the records. I see plenty of people in their 20s and 30s buying garage and soul records, R&B, but not as much rockabilly and no doowop. Yeah, a good percentage of these are DJ types who will burn out and sell up quickly but there's still enough 'hard filers' to keep the market stable.