George G

I've found a couple copies of John Wonderling. It's a 'mod psych' sound - the song Midway Down is the original of the song recorded by the Creation. Goes for $50 IIRC. It also came out on Warner Bros, I guess they decided to fold Loma and try it again on the parent label. There is a green issue on Loma if you really want to get obscure..... - george

Do you mean the Richard Whittington Adventure on Paramount? it's the same guy - also Dick Whittington on Philips (straight garage-folk/rock). He also played on some of the Bocky and Visions records. - George

Here is the story for one Round label. There were only the five records on the label. Roger did not know about or have any relationship with the other Round label(s). https://www.buckeyebeat.com/round.html Oops, just realized the date for the Symon Grace record is wrong, from 1967 not 1970! - George

Interesting to see a copy of this record that was actually handled upon its release. A good percentage of the pressing (500 copies, September 1967) was water damaged. Russell and Soul Kitchen/Boddie had some sort of legal dispute about the record and I don't think many copies were sold or distributed (some stock was found later). Good record, hope it sells and you don't mind the comments - George

OK... The group's name is Rare BREAD not Rare BREED. There is no connection to any Rare Breed or American Breed bands that had records in the US. Funny, I found this record some years ago and without any prior knowledge thought - this could be a Northern Soul spin. It's pretty easy to find in the US. - George

I talked about the Limelights in the Look in Your Box forum a couple months ago. So here it is for trade and sale offers, along with Gwen Owens "Mystery Man" which I don't need to keep. Limelights - record looks M-, was probably unplayed when I got it and played about 5 times on good equipment. Pressing is a little grainy so it's not as clean sounding as a good pressing, I don't know if this is an issue with all copies of this record - not like there's a lot of copies to choose from. Listen to the soundfile for yourself. Gwen Owens - here's the deal - "Mystery Man" has some abrasion on the record that created a couple marks that pop, you can hear them on the soundfile. I'd guess I'd give it a VG grade. The other side grades VG++ and sounds fine. The sticker on the label is removable, I left it there to amuse myself. (It is what I paid for the record) So, I'm putting these records up in hopes I can get back one or some of my Ohio wants in trade. If that doesn't pan out, I will consider cash offers but I'm not obligating to accept cash unless I think it's the best I can do. Trade + cash is welcome. Trades/offers can be for either record or both. I might consider trading for non Ohio soul 45s but I'm really picky...I don't even know what I would want that's of comparable value. Want list Sensations - Demanding Man Out Of Sights - For the rest of my life Vondells - Hey Girl You've changed Young Mods - Gloria Young Mods - I can't hurt you back Inter Circle - The player Creations Unlimited - Corruption is the thing Sending PMs are OK but I prefer to deal with emails - georgeg45@verizon.net Thanks, I'm pretty easy to talk with, I just want to sent the limits clearly and not misrepresent anything. Keeping the offers open until April 19. George limelights_leave_me.mp3 gwen_owens_mystery.mp3

Over 100 records on this label....probably 80% of them are either pop or bad country. You can count the number of soul records on one hand - and use the other hand to count the 4 or so good garage 45s. There's a few good county or country bopper 45s. Are there any other soul records besides Silky Hargreaves and Theo Coff ?

There's two different pressings with slightly different typeface. They sound the same. I had one of each but returned one for overgrading. A decent used copy seems to be in the $100-$125 range. I think a truly M- one would go for $300+ (and you would have to outbid me )

"I Feel Love..." sounds like a Bob Dylan/Sloan & Barri wannabe. Pretty dull. I don't care for "Born A Loser" but can understand why it's part of Northern Soul, but "I Feel Love..." does not have the same groove. It also can be bought cheap despite 'book value'. Does anybody still put stock in Osborne guides in 2010? Time to put him out to pasture.

The 'rasied lip' King records are original 60s pressings. I have several King custom pressed records that have this same characteristic. King had in house pressing capabilities that ended after the sale to Starday in 1969. My theory is that one of King's record pressing machines had this raised lip feature. I don't for how long but based on the dates of the custom pressings they would be from 1966-7. I don't know if King reverted to a more conventional pressing or that was the style until 1969. Earlier King customs (pre 1966-ish) don't have this lip. I am 100% sure about the authenticity of these, as some of the custom pressed records were country and garage records that I have verified from the artists that there was one pressing done back in the day (1966). Because of high sales for certain hit records King would sometimes have records pressed out of house to meet demand. One of the outside places was Rite. You can tell a Rite pressed King 45 by the depressed area at the inner radius that starts at the center hole and extends out about 1.25-1.5 cm. Just like a Rite custom press. Sorry I can't be more specific about the dates, I would have to go through the dozens of King customs I have and catalog when the pressings changed. - George

You can remove sellers from the search from the advanced search page. I have a complicated search setup that saves me 30-45 minutes a day. You can save pages with different search options in your browser and use them once every few days or whenever.

There are legit yellow Okeh labels, there were used around 1960-2 and this record fits into that time frame I think. If it's a stamped styrene press, than it's probably real. I have Billy Lamont "Country Boy" and a few other R&B records on yellow. - George

Just wanted to remind you that the two label versions have different mastering and sound different. I've explained what they are in detail in an earlier thread, maybe 4-5 months ago? - George

I might be able to help with the Ambassadors, but I can't do anything for the next couple weeks, so don't wait for me if you get a lead. I collect this label also (Cleveland/Ohio), I have George and the Highlanders, the Praytells, the 7th House, and some Gospel record(s). I'd like to know what else is there (preferably from someone who HAS the records, not some "I saw something on eBay 4 years ago...." speculation). The Praytells and 7th House are rare. The Rotations is by far the best one. - George

Huh, I had no idea. I'm sure then that people have asked LITA already and they are sold out of them, so I stand corrected. I have the original so it's easy for me to be a snob

Thanks for the info, although I'm a little confused at the end Yes, I got a copy of it in M-, so I'm saying it's about 2K quid, seems to be the average. I will post a notice in the sales section when I'm ready to move it. It's good but too 'vocal group' ish for me. If it was a 100 quid record I'd keep it but I'm most interested in trading to get some Cleveland/Ohio rarity(s) I need. Thanks George

This was done around the time that the "Wheedles Groove" Cd came out, which was 5 or so years ago. Why would it be worth anything more than the list price? Why not ask the label directly? They are still in business. I'm likely to see one of the label operatives tonight, if I haven't had too many pints, I'll ask him.

FWIW a copy sold on eBay recently for $750-ish.

Could I get a realistic value for the Limelights - Don't Leave Me Baby on Uncle? I see a copy in Popsike for close to $7000! But I've also seem mention earlier that it's more like a 1500-2000 quid item. Values would be for a M- copy Thanks in advance - George

Don, I'm sure I've seen this on eBay (US) recently, probably unsold (it was priced high) but when I looked for finished auctions I did not see it (could be beyond the two week limit for viewing closed auctions). It was a US Seller. I will email the band's guitarist and ask him as well, but I don't know if he will respond. - George

According to company records there were 1000 copies pressed, May 1972 Dewey passed away last year, here's the obit https://www.cleveland.com/obituaries/index.ssf/2009/07/dewey_alva_jeffries_jazz_piani.html

I recently bought a strong VG copy that plays great for 500 quid. I love this record and many people into garage and R&B agree. If this record continues to find a fresh audience it will be a monster. BTW despite the Hammond references I believe it's a combo organ. If anyone can recommend similar records, please tell! - George

Band was from the Pittsburgh area, Ideal is a label from there. Its either a Gateway or Frankford/Wayne press. Yeah, it's well known to garage collectors. I think all the originals have the off center label, but I would not claim to be definitive - George

I think the first Rondo record was from 1968. I have 5-6 45s on this label. I don't think I've even listened to all the ones I have.... I was contacted by Donnie Murphy's family, I was under the impression he was from Dayton. He died in 1966 so I think the only record he made was the Red Bug 45. His family was from Dayton and they only mentioned the one 45. Been a while since I've seen my notes but I think he was related to somebody(s) from the Moroccos. - George

I know a fair amount about rock bands from there. Some of them cross over into soul, at least what is considered soul 45 years later. 1. Yes, although it was rather incestuous. Many bands started in the early 1960s and as these bands broke up, the displaced members formed new ones - Monarchs, Cosmo and the Counts, Chateaus, Soul, Inc, Oxfords, etc. The Rugbys had a big US hit in 1969. The main recording studio was Allen-Martin. AM were a major regional studio who recorded bands from Louisville and Indiana and Ohio. Most of the 1960s Counterpart label from Cincinnati 45s (Gerri Diamond, etc) were done there. There's a website that says something about the tape archives being bought and possibly some reissue program. 2. Tilt, Top Dog, Boss, Jam were some of the big local labels. Top Dog and Boss (not to be confused with other labels of the same name) were connected to Allen-Martin recordings. There were also some obscure/vanity labels like Trump. 3. Get a book called "Louisville's Own" and start from there. Soul, Inc has (had?) a website that might be a way in to learn more. - George