George G

Bob, you've probably seen a few copies of this record? Seems to be for sale every few months. The record had plenty of looks and was listed in the right category and accurate description. I came in third. There's no record to my ears that's worth $3000 (I'm assuming that the high bidder had some head room). I'm not sure I'd want to pay $2K for a record but I figured on taking a shot.

Must be a NYC thing then. The Down East was probably some in joke. For a label that seemed to have one 45 it's pretty easy to get.

Dunno anything about a 45 on Musicor. I found the green and white label ones on the east coast. Still have one of each. Is there any info on the artist? Down East is term for the state of Maine.

There are two Thee Saints and Prince of Darkness 45s, both are very good garage 45s. The James Brown cover is the least interesting of the four sides. Both records come with cool and rare pic sleeves (I have the records, not the sleeves). They are numbered something like 2005 and 2008. The exact info is on the internet.

As I've said here before and other places many times, good rare records in most genres will continue to rise in price and I don't see it changing within a generation.

I have or have documented several 45s in the 20xx series. Time does not permit me to look up details though. There are two by Thee Saints and the Prince of Darkness with cool (and rare) pic sleeves, two by the Avenjuers, Three From Three, etc. Some are country.

Baseball related spoken comedy LP. Jones was an umpire, Ackerman was a longtime Detroit radio sports talk guy. I don't think it's aged well if it was funny to begin with. It's pretty rare but no demand.

No, RCA cut whatever their customers paid for. These were RCA custom pressings from Indianapolis. The labels were requested by the customer, who would have had to askf for white and maroon/red labelled runs of the records. Many records were pressed by RCA custom that have no promo designation.

Young Mods - Gloria / You Brought the Sunshine - Gangland - it's a VG (US grade) with a slight outer edge heat warp. The heat warp is barley audible through the first rotation or two of "Gloria", it's more noticable on the flip but only through a few rotations. Otherwise both sides of the record play nice, above grade. The label has no writing, some mild ring wear and a very small tear on the YBTS side. I can send sound files and label photos by email. I'm taking offers for this record - it's not offered for sale often and it's not a Northern record so I'm not sure what it's value - but the minimum offer is $500 which I think is fair. Trades considered (Ohio records I need and a few classic Northern) but I'm really picky about what to trade. The window for offers is open until next Tuesday Oct 23. Please reply by PM or email - buckeyebeat@hotmail.com thanks

"It'll Never Be Over For Me" is on a 45, it's findable here in the US, goes for $30, maybe a bit more on a good day. It's an excellent atmospheric recording but it's too slow for the US dance scene. "Jump Jive and Harmonize" is also on a 45. The other side "Looking Out My Window" is pretty good. "Whitter Blvd" is just another one of the many 2120 S. Michigan Ave riff instros, there's better (and worse) variations on it out there. "You're Gonna Make Me Cry" is a great track but it doesn't seem to be a floor filler here in the US. I dunno why, could be that guys don't like the title/lyrics! Musically it's a pretty direct lift of "But It's Alright". The flip side is another quality ballad. "I Found a Peanut" (also on 45) is a franitc pounder, I can hear this getting played at some open minded dance night.

There was a bunch of the Dewey Jeffries records found a few years ago, they were going in the $125 -$150 range (80-100 quid). Collectors Frenzy shows a few for cheaper. I'd be surprised if the price went up that much. Before the find, the record was pretty tough to find.

I have or have seen numerous 45s on Champ and United not mentioned here. This seems to have been an operation similar to Bright Star, in that most of the records seem to be pay to play deals, with the label having some actual A&R department that 'signed' artists along with the artists submissions. For example, there are two records by the Avenjuers on Champ that were pay to play, the band was from the Columbus, OH area. They seem to be the exception as all the other rock 45s on the labels originate from the south as far as I know (I would need to check on the Champ artists origins).

That was one of the songs that launched the disco era - it was sonic wallpaper for months. They had another record called "Freedom for the Stallion" (also recorded by Three Dog Night) which I seem to be one of the only people in the world who remembers hearing it on the radio back in 1974. I dig the Liberty record - the backing band on it is great, must be the LA version of the Funk Brothers or the Wrecking Crew. RCA did fine in the so called MOR market - along with John Denver (who must be one of the top 20 selling artists of the 1970s) they had Perry Como. The most prized 45 in my collection (other than the Alarm Clocks and maybe the Vikings) is a Perry Como 45 with RCA sleeve on which someone wrote detailed info about when their cats or dogs got sick and they had to be euthanized.... If you read trade mags from the times you can see how big country music was. Sales wise I'd say it was on a par with soul music, although the biggest soul records sold a lot more than the biggest country ones. I'm talking about overall market.

RCA had one of the most successful rock bands of the era, Jefferson Airplane/Starship. "Miracles" was probably the biggest selling record of the year when it came out. They also had the Guess Who - another multiple top 10 selling act during their hit period or 1969-72 (and a couple hits later on). They also sold a ton of country records - I would guess they were in the top 3 of country labels. They were not hurting, but it is somewhat true they did not really do well with soul and rock other than the standard bearers.

There's nothing rare on RCA (promo), I would say they pressed at minimum 1000 promos and probably 5x that on some titles. I think if you added up the number of copies of the Metros in collections it could number more than 1000. It still astounds me that it would be selling for more than $100 - although almost every collector I meet who has a casual interest in soul and has found the record says they like it and often keep it. LIke Columbia, RCA was very generous with promo records and seem to give them to anyone including high school radio stations. The only RCA soul related promo record I never found cheap (I have had all of them) was Judy Freeman & Blackrock and I probably passed on it years ago because I was only interested in the 1960s RCAs. RCA and Columbia far outnumber any other labels for the numbers of promos in circulation. Unlike RCA Columbia does have a couple records that are rare (as does Epic). The only possibly rare RCA is a 45 by Lloyd and the Village Squires, a Canadian garage band. The 45 was released in Canada with a US catalog number unlike most Canadian RCA records, but no US issue under that number has ever been found.

Back in the late 1980s a dealer in PA was selling these for $3, that's where I got the copy I still have (the red print on creamy white stock copy), I assume that he had a lot, probably 100 minimum. 5000 copies seems like more than a small label would press up for the first run. 1000 is believable though.

Hi Steve....Was Sam behind the Karma label or just the Stemmons 45? The reason being that I don't know if the mystery behind how the Sincerly San Jose 45 on Karma got released...would be interesting to me, thanks!

This is a pretty interesting thread to me as someone in the US who is not connected to the Northern Soul scene and has been watching eBay since 1998 trying to understand why there is a never ending market for the records mentioned above like Ace Spectrum, that record is easily available for $1 or less here as it was a hit (bigger in some areas than others). As for Ruby Andrews, you can find JLY for cheap as well if you're patient, her standard non-Northern 45s are also seen pretty much everywhere for a couple bucks - I can't believe JLY would have ever been a $200+ record. There's no way these records are being purchased for DJs - is it? - there can't be that many DJs in the world for all the Ace Spectrum 45s - must be a case where younger people discover the records and simply want copies for themselves and are not interested in waiting out in person sources. The next level or records, like the RCA 45s (promos) of Willie Kendrick, Dynamics, Lorraine Chandler, Metros (which is even more common), etc similar questions - are DJs buying these? I did own WK - CYW and sold it only to buy it back for $ some years later, the others were all cheap deals and multiple copies found for me. I don't see any signs that prices fluctuate, they seem to be pretty steady. Surely these records must fall into the 'played to death oldie' category in the UK? Or is it again people wanting them for their home collection? I don't really count the one time finds like Four Tracks and Royal Esquires, what's interesting are the records that continue to be found in the USsuch as the major label promos and private press records that were hits or large well distributed pressings (like Ruby Andrews). There's bunch more records like the Chandlers that I can't think of at the moment that would seem that supply would reduce demand.....

These are a lot harder to find intact on the cereal boxes! I have a bunch of the paper backed advertising records also, my favorite is the Chicken Delight one - has some good 60s gogo soundtrack type tracks. I have no idea nor do I care if have 'complete runs' of them. Just thrift store crap that's good for decorations. I'm sure that someone out there is invested enough to try and document all the various discs that came out on cereal boxes and other giveaways. I think the Chicken Delight one actually came with a chicken purchase. Apart from the product tie ins discs, there are also a handful of ones that were included in 60s teen mags that have garage pop and blue eyed soulish stuff - some of which came out on records, some not.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Northern-Soul-45-BARBARA-ENGLISH-You-Got-Me-Sittin-In-The-Corner-AURORA-HEAR-/160880081141?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item25753338f5&nma=true&si=0CmCOnfEddKga96QcliGFw6%2Bejs%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 I know that issue/stock copies are coveted in the NS scene, but I hate these Amy/Mala/Bell screen printed labels! Gimme a promo anyday!

I was prompted by reviewing someones playlist to re-open this thread to see if any info had surfaced.....Anyone have a clue or more?

If you've bought a record from him in the past and have saved the confirmation emails I believe you could respond to him by sending a message through that old email. This may have a time limitation and also could not work when going from UK (I assume your in the UK) to USA eBay sites. That being said I'm sure someone on here can come up with a more direct contact

I saw records by this group in SW OH/KY back many years ago. However, it's probably the other one I saw. I auditioned several Rondo 45s and didn't really like any of them, but I ended up buying a few then and later on.

his eBay name is thatgirl75 ...... maybe someone else can confirm.

The popsike copy was pretty beat. I know I've seen other copies in that price range, maybe more like 400. It could be one of those funk records that has long peaked and tanked, though. Myself, I would buy their LP instead which has IMO a better version of "Shake..." plus some other excellent songs.