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Jimmy Saville has a good claim on it. Live bands played and there were smaller groups playing in between the headlining act so as they could go to the nearest pub for a pint. Jazz fans were importing discs as far back as the twenties. Clubs twigged after the success of midweek and lunchtime gigs that DJ's could pull a crowd. In the late sixties bands went heavy and clubs went disco. The Mecca ballrooms still had showbands playing live but they too eventually ended with DJ's. Below is the scene when the Modern and Wigan fans declared a truce.

I read it enjoyed it and am now reading How to DJ. I am hoping to get a City and Guilds at the end of it.

and congratulations to seranne on her ploy to get the most jaded Northern soul fans to visit her sales. Is there a record without a bid since the original posting regardedin Bedazzled?

no it wasn't. it was recorded in Detroit ). Never-Before-released Masters from Motown's Brightest Stars was released in 1986 5380ML Buy it here Never before or here released Masters or here Motown's Brightest Stars's I play it occasionally. FrankM

It's an annual festival with the emphasis on Memphis artists and a few live albums have been issued.

P.G. Wodehouse wrote, 'It has never been hard to tell the difference between a Scotsman with a grievance and a ray of sunshine.' just substitute "Northern Soul fanatic" for Scotsman. Swallowing a thesaurus and then regurgitating it does not necessarily make for a good critique so let's wade through the verbiage and see what we have. Ray Charles was beyond being a strictly soul artist and should be regarded as a musical superstar but in a programme which showed his R&B contemporaries he was the one who took tunes , atmosphere and musical settings from Gospel and welded it with R&B and made it popular. And that is how soul music was invented. Now you could be picky and sat nothing is invented it's developed so be it but in TV land that's not how popular shows are made. Yes the ones that there was film of. It's a TV series you need visuals and it was six hours long. As the producer said he could have done six hours on Motown and maybe somebody will do series on groups. Good idea. It was an unheard of B Side till Chubby Checker turned it into a pop hit and if a chunk had been handed over to Jackie Wilson you would have been complaining about the lack of screen time given to Northern Soul heroes like Chubby. Ella Fitzgerald recorded Get ready and that makes her eligible or Soul Deep. Laverne was mentioned but she's dead and Ruth Brown was available. Joe Turner or Ivory Joe Hunter. Who's on film and is known to a UK audience. Screaming Jay and Chuck in a soul series, come on. How on earth can a documentary be made about Motown without at least mentioning The Temptations, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Edwin Starr plus many others? All covered in episode 5 bar maybe Edwin Starr. Were you watching this on fast play? A poor attempt was made to describe a non existent rivalry between Chicago and Detroit (then why did most of the Motown musicians play on Jackie Wilson's "Higher and Higher" plus many others?), as was answered on the programme that followed on BBC4 because Brunswick wanted the Motown success and because Carl Davis offered more money than Berry Gordy. The idea that Soul music devolved from its gospel based, emotional intensity into some form of primeval, bass driven babble, in the shape of Funk, is absurd This statement is on a par with 'Rock and roll music,' he said, 'is the basic, heavy-beat music of Negroes. It appeals to the base in man, brings out animalism and vulgarity.'" Asa E. (Ace) Carter, at least had the excuse of being self-appointed leader of the North Alabama Citizens Council. Rob Moss last of the Gestetner polemicists should calm down and remind himself it's only a TV show. there's more still to be made and in actual fact some of his ideas would make for a good radio series.

according to Popsike mint copy of Roosevelt Grier went for £109 in April. It was a promo copy. I've just realised by typing this i missed a copy of The Horse at £1.20 . That means i'll have to wade through several boxes to find my own copy.

Radio Caroline went on air in August 1964 So possibly Tony Prince? That would be at least a year before Gene Dozier signed to Minit.

He didn't sign to Minit till 1966 so how come a radio copy came in in the early sixties? Anyone have soul underground issue 8 with the Gene Dozier story? Hammy, Hoarce Silver wrote and recorded maybe the first song with the word "funk" in its title in 1954. He certainly released the first album with "funk" in its title. As someone else mentioned funk is a description of a smell, an odour, an atmosphere. Horace defined it as a musical term. Not the funk we know and love so much these days but more like the funk the Hibs laundress has to wash out the shorts after her team plays Rangers.

It depends on how you define funk and one could argue Horce Silver defined it on Blue Note records. I would argue funk arrived at the Apollo theatre in 1967 when Jamed Brown recorded his second live album. He had a great horn session and Clyde Stubblefield on Drums. Earlier that year he had recorded Cold Sweat in the studio. Fred Wesley trombomne player had lifted the the riff from So What a typical Miles Davis tune of the time and made it into the esential funk riff. It' a great single and put the beat on the one. They took it out on the road and whn they recorded it for Live at The Apollo Volume 2. It explodes on stage and every instrument including Brown's voice become part of the percussion. Yes there were funky tunes from before this but with melody as well as rhythm (Sly Stone) but when released in 1968 this version of Cold Sweat showed who had invented funk.

The buyer Mother Fox obviously can afford it Funk Classic

This one Marco Santucci played it off a UK Direction Demo copy on reflections.

Check here for prices on Charles Sheffield. Popsike Northern soul music was music played in soul clubs in the North of England to put it simply. It is more of a collection of scenes rather than a particular sound.

Thanks Kolla, I was meaning to do up a list tieing the shows to guests. Marco was a great guest on the show and later on that night at The Caledonin Soul club. Obviously people have been checking out his playlist too as it's one of the most viewed posts from last week's radiomagnetic shows. https://www.radiomagnetic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1845 Guy very kindly let me record his set in McChuill's and it's a rare chance to hear a half hour of mostly instrumentals illustrated by Guy himself. I had to engineer as well as hold the mike etc all in a busy bar so it is not in the highest of Hi Fi but the music's great. Frankm

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According to the Funk 45 site Family of Eve recorded Please be Truthful as the b Side label: jeree eve ref.: 1740 a-side: i want to be loved by you and was originally released in 1977 BBE have issued it on 12" in 2000 and again recently. PBT is on the B side of one of the releases. I believe both sides are on Keb Darge's Legendary Deep Funk, Vol. 1 A 45 of it went for $298 in 2003 Listen to it here Family of Eve KSL 1160 is a radio station in Utah , currently like many AM station it's news/talk but possibly was a music station in 1977.

I believe these are called radio shows and BBC Radio Scotland did a six part series on Southern Soul a couple of years ago. The BBC have also done several series on Motown and at leat one on Funk, another on New Orleans but none as far as I can recall on Philadelphia. Between 1960 and 1970 Motown in the US had 174 top ten R&B and 94 top ten Pop hits. I belive that's a ratio of two hits on the black chart to each one on the white charts. On the other hand when it comes to Motown's big million sellers 70% of sales were to white people. FrankM

I A N L E V I N E I have tried every which way but I cannot rearrange the above letters into HANDGRENADE but that's the effect when his name is put into debate on a soul site. As far as i know he does not post to soul lists these days which is a pity in some ways as he could be quite informative. However after being wound up like some of the above posts he usually resorts to comparisons with the Nazis. As with previous debates involving him several fellow listees will be keeping up to date on what people are saying about him by sending him selected high lights.

I know that Davie but it's your insistence on maintaining the hairstyle you have in your avatar that misleads people into thinking you're Frank Bough's slightly younger brother.

Agreed I played More Power to the People at the GoGo which has an mostly under thirty crowd. I say mostly as they let Davie in and sometimes let him DJ too but his enthusiasm for playing Al Jolson tracks gets the better of him sometimes. Am I your woman has the original horn riff sampled for Beyonce's Dangerously in Love. I presume you've heard that Frankm

i bought it for Love Potion #9, Honest.

You Don't know where your interest lies by Five and a Penny played at Centrl hotel saturday night.

My son nicks my records for playing so here's my suggestions Spanky Wilson Sunshine of your love Stevie Wonder Light my fire Bob and Earl Harlem Shuffle The Chi Lites Are you my woman Chris Clarke Do I lOve You The Meters Handclapping song Frank Popp Ensemble You've been Gone too Long/Hip Teens Shirley Ellis The Clapping song Lou Lawton Nick Nack The Isley Brothers Its your Thing James Brown Bring it Up Marvin Gaye Tammi Terrell California Soul

My guest on Reflections on Northern Soul this week is Colin Law. He will be playing some sounds before he heads off to the Central Hotel for the Once Upon a Time in Wigan party on Saturday night. Tune in to www.radiomagnetic.com this Saturday afternoon at 2:30pm (BST) for the best in northern Soul. We shall squeeze in the gig guide and your dedications, sales lists and mentions. E mail me yours at studio@radiomagnetic.com. I had the pleasure of meeting the cast of Once upon a Time at Wigan and telling them what a great play it was and how good their dancing was. You can catch it at Lowton Civic hall next week and Coventry the week after but buy your tickets now. 24 - 29 May Civic Hall, Lowton Times to be confirmed Box office: 01942 825677 01 - 04 June The Belgrade Theatre, Coventry 7:45pm every evening, plus 2:30pm matinees on 2nd and 4th Box office: 02476 553055 FrankM

If you saw the film she appeared in a press confrence and acknowledged she had shot him three times. How did she know she shot him. Sam Cooke said "lady you shot me". From the history of rock "With a live LP in the Top 30, Cooke was in L.A. partying when he met 22 year old Elisa Boyer at a club on December 11, 1964. They drove to South Central where they registered at the Hacienda Motel as Mr. and Mrs. Sam Cooke. Later Boyer left the room with most of Cooke's clothing. Cooke wearing one shoe and a jacket broke into the motel's office where he thought she was hiding. There he found Bertha Franklin the motel's manager who shot him three times with a .22. The manager of the motel, Bertha Franklin claimed Cooke had tried to rape a twenty one year old woman Elisa Boyer and then turned on her. The coroner's office ruled the death as justifiable homicide. Over thirty five years later there remain questions about the circumstances of Cooke's death and there has been talk about reopening the investigation."