Right heres my two pence worth, one of the best days out ive had in years was the family dayer at the lowton a few years ago, barbacue outside, kids dancing competition[put me to shame] just a great day well organized, imho the few younger people who do attend soul do`s should be encouraged that attitude of "DIV" days are over, certain people in york when i was a kid and they know who they are, used to take great pleasure in making me feel un welcome on the scene it was only the love of the scene that kept me going, i know a lot of people who dropped out because of this attitude, and some wich i personally find pathetic still have there high horse saddled,if we use the closed shop attitude its gonna be DEAD end of story, this dosn`t happen on the continent where there is a healthy younger crowd, and as for your comment ken your bang on right, we seem to forget its all about enjoying ourselves and it allways will be that way for me