CAMBRIDGE SOUL

they are the same markings , but are they in exactly the same place, i don't know and am not going to pull out my original right now and check, sorry but it's not a matter of life and death ....... will let John Mnaship look at it and then he can put the details in his book......... it's not the original end of ....... if one of you would like to buy one and do all the work feel free, but i have loads of other stuff to do, like makeing a living and i have lots to do before christmas

Sorry Sebastian But I am not going to get my ruler out and measure the run out grooves on this one and my original..... The run out groove and turns look the same and the information in the run out grove is the same..... was the scratching done by the same person, well as this is a 2nd issue/ boot then probably not , but if the same original press was used then yes it would be ..... These are questions I do not have the answers to as I did not press the record...... I came across them and have collected as much information as I could get. At the end of the day the differences do not really matter as no one is trying to sell this as an original, as I have said the one's I have sold will have a date stamp on the A side, I will post what the stamp looks like on this thread later ....also I will take my copy of this to John Manship in the new year so he has all the information to put in his next price guide book. Also anyone that would like to see my copy of this is welcome to come and have a cuppa and take as many photos of it as they like, they can even scrape some vinyl off the record to have it analysed if they wish If you would like to buy the last copy I have for sale then you can do an autopsy on it and post it all up on here, as I have many other things that need my attention at the moment. All the best and season's greetings David

Not sure what you mean re Al Mason that was a ref to price nothing more.... Do you mean nobody else noticed the king tutt ....... as I said before I found them in Italy, and I had the first one..... this is why they have not been seen before......please read info above as I am not going to post the same info again and again....... for differences on them see above posts....... if someone made a boot you could not tell the difference from the original in any way , then you would never know it exists would you And I would call it a Counterfeit not a boot, as most boots are not made to mislead

it's a limited press, you can get a carver on ebay for 15 inc post .......Al Mason on 3rd issue went for well over 100.... it's a strange world we live in .... if i go to the 100 club xmas party this week will bring one , so you can have a look at it , my xmas prezzy to you Prophonics and you can have it for 80.99 less the paypal and ebay fees as it's the last one i have all the best David

It all seems a bit strange a re-issue and only one copy to show with a gloss that an original would of had but hasn't any more?? Just trying to make sense of it all. yes i'm sure my first one had gloss when i got it but that was a long time ago....... there are more than one copy of this 2nd issue or what ever you wish to call it , but from the information i have this was a small limited press. if i had, had the cash i would have got all of them ! i may go back and get the rest in the new year.

I was sold it as a 45 record that was it..... I have no idea when they were pressed... I re checked my original and as stated in another post the fwtc is on both sides but very faint on one side, and I missed it on the first look. Just because there was paperwork is no reason to assume they are legit reissues, it just means they were ordered and delivered...... I stated 2nd issue on eBay as you are not allowed to use the term boot and most people use 2nd issue to show the 45 they are selling is not an original first issue and I did not wish to mislead anyone as they do look very convincing. Anyway it's a great sound and I'm sure who ever owns one of these issues will enjoy the sound in the grooves without having to pay £00's for one. All the information I have I will pass on to John Manship for the next edition of his bootleg/ other issues guide. Best regards David

Glad you have a m+ record, never seen one of those before..... Is a mint + before it is put into a sleeve and untouched by human hands? If the record was made to look used then the differences would not be as noticeable, I did not suggest I feel the need to scuff a record up? The reason I will put a date stamp on the A side is so that it will not be sold on as an original... Sorry but I can see no green in any of the scans? They all look yellow to me? I'm not looking for an argument or a heavy debate, I was asked a question and I gave an answer, I am not going to explain every post I put up as I have better things to do, but for your information as you have twisted some of the things I have posted I will say the following ...... I could not see the print at the bottom of the letter (this is sometimes where the address is printed on company paper) as it was small.... I did not say I could "not see the small print" as you suggest........ I made out all of the information on the body of the letter..... I am not filling in the gaps, I have stated that there is some information I do not have, if you read my post I said "I would take a guess it was pressed in the USA but I could be wrong"... I'm offering a suggestion based on the information I have and the experience of myself and others on the 45...... I see shipping orders and delivery notes every day and I am sure all the relevant information was on the sheet on the desk, all the information you would need was on the paperwork I looked at, I'm sure there is a fax or a shipping order somewhere and also an email but I cannot think of anymore information that would be on them that was not on the paperwork I looked at, the only thing I could not see was the company name and address as stated before. As for reading letters/ memo's upside down on a desk, it's a skill I picked up years ago and I'm sure many people can do the same..... The information in the dead wax is the same as the original All the best David

the paperwork i had a very quick view of, upside down on the desk i might add , gave me the number pressed and other info that makes me 99.9% sure no more can/will be pressed..... it was in english but the letter head was covered by other paper and the details at the bottom of the paperwork were to small to read from where i was situated & i did not feel the best thing to do was say i had noticed it ! being in english and that the 45 looks like it was pressed in the USA from the information i have collected , i would take a guess it was pressed in the USA but i could be wrong....... everything looked proffessional but i was not happy in asking to many questions..... did not wish to sleep with the fish ! as they say in italy ! best regards David

read post above , it's just a bad photo, the rooftops are not cut off just checked against the original i have and the fun city logo is printed 2.5 mm higher on the 2nd issue/boot any more info wanted just ask all the best David

just to say if anyone wants a good look at this will take it to Fulbourn do ( cambridge soul collective)on sat 20th.... and you can have a good look !

quote name='Prophonics 2029' post='949823' date='Dec 16 08, 12:02 AM']A very thin paper label that goes greenish under those funny energy saving bulb's.

Give free cd at all my do's and the sounds on them all come from Max Rees, myself and a few thrown in from regular local dj's, they are all from original vinyl and if any are unknown tracks we have found and are still on the lookout for, we cover them up.......don't have any problem with people knowing what we play and if they can find the hard to find one's good luck to them.....from my experience many of the top dj's are happy to share information on new sounds once they are uncovered, as by that time all the one's floating about have been snapped up anyway.........due to the value of the records i do not let them out of my sight when the lids are unlocked, some of the dj's we have had guest at Fulbourn have locked their boxes to the table using a big metal cable and pad lock !

Eddie Holman was the tops for me at that weekender the beer was off though ! strange the things you remember !

worked in its day as many sounds do now..... i'm sure in 20 years people will take the piss out of sounds that now fill the floor..... Sam got kicked out of St Ive's for playing "funk" and "pop crap" but now those same sounds are now accepted and sort after 45's....it's all relative I never liked queen of fools but at the Howard mallet reunion a few weeks ago it packed the floor..... Perfect timing for me as I got to the bar without any hassle!

At the end of the day there will still only be 150 copies of this 45 in existence and they will soon get swallowed up in collections around the world....... the price on this 45 will still stay high IMHO..... If a vg+ one comes up on eBay in 18 months time it will be $1000.00 plus I would guess.

would love to find a 100 of a 45 like this...... would drip feed them in and use the profit to buy other choons i had on my wants list...... credibility got nothing to do with it, it's business .... you invest the money and if it pays off great, he's not selling boots....or trying to con anyone.... he's selling originals at the market price..... good luck to him ! paid almost $900 for mine and love it to bits

B side is a great 60's sound, i know a few that think it's the best side !

even if he has 50 they will all be snapped up ..... the price will go down now , but will soon move back up .... good time to buy a mint copy..... he packs them well , i've had one and i know of two others that have had them from this guy, and all packed well .

Sam Brown sings lead vocal

is it real or one of those top quality counterfeited one's ??? as it seems to have a ridge and i thought the originals had a flat label ??? have asked the seller the question and had no reply..... i would bid if he confirms 100% real , if no reply no bid

it was one no one wanted to buy when i sold up in 83/84..... sold it for £30 in 87 i think, i have seen it go for £200 mint but over that seems like madness as there was loads of them about ????? but then again sold daybreak for £50 in 83/84 and they have gone for over £1000 at times ........... Dave Thorly played it out about a year ago and still sounded great, if a bit off tune E, W & F at times