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Ok, so here are two snippets of Robby Lawson "I have searched". This is the snippet from the CD comp linked to by Mick. Does this sound like the Robby Lawson/Renee White who sings the "Poet" on the same CD comp? It doesn't to me. https://soundcloud.com/harveysoulfinger/robby-lawson-i-have-searched This is the snippet from the acetate. It's a different version from the clip above. To me this does sound like the Robby Lawson/Renee White who's singing the "Poet" track on the CD comp - and that's the same version on the acetate. https://soundcloud.com/harveysoulfinger/robby-lawson-i-have-searched-1 The most obvious answer is that one is Robby Lawson and the other isn't. Perhaps Renee White isn't Robby Lawson at all. To help matters can someone confirm which version of "I have searched" is on the flip to the "Burning Sensation" 45? All thoughts welcomed!

That's really interesting. Thanks a lot, Mick. That's the song all right. So Renee White and Robby Lawson could be the same person. One thing though, Renee is a girl's name (Rene being the masculine version, of course). That makes me think that someone's made a cock-up either in the cataloguing or elsewhere. Alternatively, perhaps it should have been credited as Rene rather than Renee. That though begs the question of why Robby Lawson would want to change his performing name. To add to the possible mystery, the song on the flip of the acetate, "I have searched" is not the same song or singer as features on that cd comp. They've got the same words, but the arrangements are totally different. And, listening to the snippets, the singer of "I have searched" on the CD comp doesn't sound like the same person singing "Poet" or even "Burning Sensation" on the same disc. However, relative to the acetate, the singer of "Poet" is the same person singing the version of "I have searched" on the flipside - and that person is the same as the one singing "Poet" on the CD comp. So, if Renee White is Robby Lawson, then who's that singing the version of "I have searched" on the CD comp — because it sure doesn't sound like either singer — and is that the same version as appears on the Kyser 45? Confused? I am... Perhaps I might put up a sound clip of both of the acetate tracks side by side and see if a more discerning ear can offer some insight.

The track is from 2008. It came out on the Michigan label, I believe. Zamali is a Belgian dj/producer - one of those who remixes and creates their own beats using samples, overlaid instruments and rhythms. There might even be a real instrument in the mixes, somewhere. There's a bit of background here courtesy of the label Timewarp music, which has released his stuff: https://timewarpmusic.org/zamali.html He has a SoundCloud channel here where you can listen to many of his tracks/mixes - if you want to: https://soundcloud.com/zamali

This one?

You are welcome. That's what Soul Source is all about.

Thread here about record shops in Amsterdam: And another one here: Happy hunting...

Non-Mac users could use Skype's video calling to contact one another. Same difference...

It must be love - Ila Vann/ Ila Govan: https://youtu.be/Ct4gMv81--4

I doubt there'll be much interest in these recording here, but for the sake of history/posterity, I thought it worth sharing to a wider audience these two rehearsal/demo takes of what would eventually be Ila Vann's 1961 Arnold-label 45 "What's the matter baby" and "It must be love". Ila (Govan and then Vann) doesn't remember these recordings (I shared these songs with her just before Christmas) or why she was singing them so differently to the versions that were released. What's not in dispute is that it's her singing. Listening through the crackles and the hesitancy of the demo session the one thing you can't help but hear is that even in its raw, unproduced state, she has a wonderfully soulful voice. https://youtu.be/q-mFnEcT-QY

I paid with magic jumping beans, but it wasn't to Mr Kyser…

Always so difficult to pick a top 3, top 10, or top anything. It all depends on the day, the mood, etc, etc. Having said that, I reckon these three are doing it for me at the moment... Mr Lucky - Freddy Hill & the Reno-Bops - Ru-Tee Hit Cookie Jackson - Do you still love me - Progress Carrie Grant - Take all of my life - New-Art

Here are pics of both sides of the 'Robby Lawson' disc. As mentioned, one side has the track "I have searched", which is the flip to "Burning Sensation". The other side has a track with the title "Poet". "Poet" is a nice dance track although the lyrics are a bit cheesy in places. Is it by Robby Lawson, did it get released - and if so, on what label? All info appreciated.

Also available as a fine and probably much rarer French release... https://youtu.be/GBGkf3bE8GQ

Eureka! It's not a version of the Del Capris - it is the Del Capris. Thanks for the swift ID, Sebastian One down, one to go...

Got hold of three tracks on acetate, one of which is called "I have searched", the flip to Lawson's "Burning sensation" on Kyser. That sounds like a different take/arrangement from the only clip I could find of the track, which was a snippet in the iTunes store. Soundfile anyone? On the flip of the "I have searched" acetate is a dancer titled "Poet". On another, single-sided disc is a sweet soul number called "Love ain't the same anymore". Anyone tell me what label they came out on? Thanks.

You prompted me to have a further trawl online and I saw that on a Soulful Detroit thread (from 10 years ago) you mentioned that there could be interest in an Airwaves comp cd and that "There might also be some curiosity value in the Art Posey... [tracks]". Curiosity value? And did you have any contact with Posey back then? Further digging reveals that he's still making music, primarily through collaborations with an established poet/songwriter by the name of Theresa Haffner. They perform as a duo known as PH Factor. Songs in the main seem to be reworkings of standards such as "Stormy monday", "God bless the child", etc, along with Haffner's own material, all of which can be found on YouTube should anyone feel so inclined. There's even a 13-minute 'improvisation' of Jaggers/Richards' "Satisfaction".

Not him, I'm afraid. Bill Berry the jazz trumpeter died in 2002. https://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/19/arts/bill-berry-72-jazz-trumpeter.html

So, anyone with any insights at all about the Isaac Hayes/Steve Cropper/Don Nix 'rip-off' of "Find My Way", or who Art Posey is/was? And what about Johnny Melfi - still alive or not? No-one..?

Yes, I've been wondering that, too. Had a trawl through Google, but the trail was cold. Anyone know? (And see you tomorrow night, Paul!)

Amazing what you can find on a 78! https://youtu.be/7NDEr4ZI8Wc In this case, an unreleased recording from The Ramblers, a group* that would evolve into the Fabulous Playboys and The Falcons. * Background on the group(s) known as The Falcons & The Ramblers: https://www.uncamarvy.com/Falcons/falcons.html

I was sharing some new-found information with Paul (Soul Shrews) about this track and he suggested it might be worth adding it to this old thread so, as he worded it, we could put the mystery to bed. First off, as a reminder for those who can't be bothered to start from the beginning, this is the track in question - an unidentified version of "Find my way". https://youtu.be/cumvDC3hiEw Not so long ago, someone by the name of Willem Berry posted up to the YouTube video the following information: Wow, interesting stuff, and whoever the poster is, they seem to be very close to the musical action! This then is the same Art Posey who recorded "No more heartaches for me" on the Scope label out of Detroit. And here's Art and Honey... Listening to that track, and Art and Honey's "Let's make love now" on Motown, and it seems a pretty safe bet that the mystery "Find my way" vocalist is indeed Mr Art Posey. Mystery solved? I certainly think so...

Have to agree completely. The swallows, swifts and martins arrived here all right, but they're not here in the same numbers as last year. If they're not here then it's because food is in short supply. Happily though, it looks like we're on track for a bit of summer now, and that might buck up the natural Eco-system and get it back on track. At the same time, it's not stopped the slugs getting at the fresh green shoots of everything we're trying to grow in our mini greenhouse and patio space!

They're not, to quote the thread title, "songs copied by 60s bands to make their names"?

Anna & Chains featured on the Beatles No1 EP, which, as stated, reached number 24 in the charts. Looking back, I can't see any rider that says cover versions have to be on singles only. Nor do I see any rules that state the original versions have to be 'soul'. Have another read of the thread title and opening post. I think perhaps you're being a little too anal.