Amsterdam Russ

Thelma Houston - uncredited Warner Bros 45 demo acetate for unreleased, LP only track (??)

So, how's your collection of cylinders & 78s coming along?

My point Pete, is that in these modern times dodgy 45s are not the only means through which songs that one might otherwise not be able to afford or find can be obtained. How many tracks have you got on your harddrive, for example? And what percentage of those came from the internet for 'free'? That's not a personal pop at you, Pete. Why restrict the discussion to illegal pressings of 7" discs when music is available illegally in so many other formats nowadays? Digital bootlegging is more prevalent than record bootlegging, that's for sure. Hands up if you've never downloaded a song or CD from the internet for 'free'! What's the difference then between an illegally pressed 45 and an illegal posted mp3?

Why buy bootlegs when you can strip an mp3 out of a YouTube video for free..?

Buddy Ace - Screaming Please - France

Roy Redmond - Japanese JJ Jackson - Japanese

Chicago R&B/blues recorded in 1960. Perhaps not the best forum to be asking, but has anyone got a copy for sale? If so, please let me know by PM. Thanks...

Love it. What an absolute belter - of a tune!

Ray Charles - New Zealand Earl Grant - Italy Barry 'Barefoot' Beefus - France (Still looking for a replacement copy of this!) Linda Jones - Portugal The Olympics - France

Jerry Ragovoy and Loma Records go hand in hand. He first appears on the label through his production of Good Lovin' by The Olympics (Loma 2013 - March 1965). His last credit for Loma is published in August of 1968 with the label's second-to-last release - JJ Jackson - Courage ain't strength (Loma 2104). Here's a selection of scans representing his work with Loma Records...

The man's contribution to music was immense. The legacy he leaves us serves as a wonderful monument to his unique genius. Long live Jerry Ragovoy.

One that I got turned on to not so long ago is 'Loser' by New Dawn on Mainstream. I think they were a white prog/folk rock band. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGynYSTvz0c

That's definitely not a problem. I moved from London to the Netherlands nearly four years ago and if there's just one thing I can tell you about the country it's that it's always damp!

Truly Smith, real name Josie Taylor, was born in Warrington. She became a teacher and retired as headmistress of a school in Alnwick. Her married name is Josie MacDonough. There's a lengthy article about her here: Truly Smith That came to me, Pete...

Sorry, that just doesn't help. On topic advice only, please. There must be others with acetates in their collection who know that these things are irrevocably deteriorating - and who must have thought about preserving them in the longer term. Acetates have existed as long as the pressing of records has, so some effort must have been spent in the preservation of what at times is the least preserved part of the whole process!

Rbman - that doesn't help answer the questions I asked, does it? Got lots of insights about the manufacturing processes of records? Great - please share it, but not here. I'm asking for specific advise and please respect that. Thanks...

That David and The Giants were really The Osmonds before they became famous... That The Soul Twins were really Sam and Dave using an alias to get around contractual obligations... That 'Interplay' by Derek and Ray was going to be the theme tune to 'Coronation Street - The Movie'...

I'm sure that the quality of the chemical mix that makes the lacquer adds to durability/stability or lack of it. From my experience acetate quality - just like vinyl or styrene - varies immensely. I recently picked up a 45 year old Four Tops acetate and it sounded as if it had never been played. At the other end of the scale, I have a couple of them the same age where the lacquer is falling off like some sort of acetate alopecia. However, it's the ones that fall in between - the ones that might just possibly be improved by some sort of gentle cleaning - that I'm more interested in. It's not about restoration, it's about finding ways of cleaning foreign gunk out of the grooves. A diluted mix of washing-up liquid and water, or just plain water, appears to be the preferred 'solution'. I did find a recommendation online to use distilled water for cleaning, which makes a lot of sense. All I have to do now is experiment to see what works! Now, which acetate should it be first?

Likewise, mine rarely see the light of day and typically get played once so that I can record them digitally. With a number of them I can't help but think that much of the crackles come from dirt rather than any real deterioration of the lacquer itself. I wonder if they can stand up to luke warm water and washing up liquid, but just don't want to risk it!

Bearing in mind the fragility of acetates, trying to find a practical means of cleaning them is not something that you'd readily want to experiment with. Spirit/alcohol based solutions are out of the question, so what works? Anyone had any success in cleaning them?