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Paranoia Del. It's not paranoia if they're REALLY after ya! Ian D
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Yeah, but surely that's only if they realise they've been photographed? What are your rights if you're in a photo that gets widely distributed and you didn't even know about it? Let's say that for personal reasons or security reasons or privacy reasons you'd rather that people didn't have a record of where you've been? If an unexpected photo of you gets distributed on the internet, then isn't that an invasion of your personal privacy? I know many people disable 'tracking' apps on mobiles for similar reasons. Or, if I came across a brilliant photo and bought it from the agency or photographer for commercial use would I still need sign-offs from the people in the picture? Which would mean tracing each and every prominent person in the photo which would be a pain in the ass. I'm obviously playing devil's advocate here but I really don't know what the law is and most lawyers I know don't either......... Ian D
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Continuing the summer clearout, so are another 10 oddball UK bits and pieces which are nice to own:- R.B. Greaves - "Let's Try It Again"/R.B. Greaves Orchestra "Your Place Or Mine" UK Pye Acetate BTC 2203 VG+ £50.00 Not sure if this was ever issued in the U.K. as I've never seen one. Instrumental on flip. Nina Simone - "My Baby Just Cares For Me" UK Charly Double-Sided Test Pressing With Custom Label M £50.00 A real weird one. This is a 7" promo for the 10" that Charly issued that eventually produced a No.1 UK hit. It looks as though a very limited run of promo-only 7"'s were rushed to radio in late '87. It's an iconic record and should probably be framed! I mean who wouldn't want this? Joyce Cobb - "How Glad I Am"/"That's What Love Will Do" UK Cream VG+ £15.00 Weird. The short lived UK Cream label. Rare! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75UM9uJLPo4 The Esquires - "My Sweet Baby" UK Action Double-Sided Promo M £50.00 Rare and a double-sided promo on one of the ultimate iconic UK Soul labels. Anyone collecting Action surely needs this. Should be framed! Bobby Bowens & Shades Of Magic - "Gonna Love Somebody" UK Move Single-Sided Test Pressing NM £50.00 Never issued but a handful of single-sided UK 7" test-pressings slipped out. Rare! Stephanie Mills "I Knew It Was Love" UK Paramount Promo £10.00 M The Showstoppers - "Don't Leave Me Standing In The Pouring Rain" UK Beacon VG+ £25.00 Rare. The group came to the UK and recorded 2 tracks with Biddu which are surprisingly great! The record hardly saw the light of day. Not even on You Tube! Hoagy Lands - "Friends And Lovers Don't Go Together" UK UK American USA 13 M £20.00 Slipped out in the early 70's, and I mean slipped! Much rarer than it looks. Tyrone Davis - "Turning Point" UK Brunswick Promo M £20 Might as well have the original and best version on a classic UK label promo! Charles Drain - Is This Really Love UK RCA Promo NM £20.00 PM me if interested. All buyers on a first come first served basis. Free 1st class postage on everything. Ian D
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I agree but it's no fun to be sued or lose your job over it either. That's why I'm saying the law needs some clarification. Ian D
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This is an area that seems to be becoming quite contentious though. I have to license every CD cover by the book, which means not only the photographer or agency signing off but also the subject of the photo, so I can only have 'model released' pics on my albums. There have been several occasions over the last few years when albums have had to be pulled even though they've had an an agency sign off because an individual in the picture has objected to the use of their image. I recently wanted to use a still from the film "Metropolis" which involved a sign-off from the agency, sign-offs from the entity which controlled the film still and various factions of Fritz Lang's family, who all wanted payments. It would have cost over £5000 to use that photo and probably taken months to get all the agreements in place. So too expensive and too time-consuming by far for a black and white still from a 1927 film, as good as it is. I had exactly the same thing with the original photo for "Inspired!" which would have been a Jesse Owens pic from the 1936 Olympics. This would have meant paying the agency, the Olympics, Locog and the Jesse Owens trust. Same thing again - too time consuming and too expensive for a CD which will sell a few thousand copies. Just recently a colleague of mine had to destroy his artwork for an entire production run on an agency-cleared photo because one of the individuals in the photo threatened to sue for the unauthorized use of his image. If we're not careful, then the photo business may well go the same way as the music business. Too many grey areas and the law needs clarification in my opinion. It's a shame because many iconic pics are getting mired with tedious clearance procedures and normal pics need model releases which means that many albums in the future will end up using easy-to-clear model released pics which are bland and have no character. Even individual artwork which I commissioned and paid for is not necessarily exempt from some nutter trying it on. I had one guy attempt to sue me because he took my artwork, photoshopped it really badly, put it on a forum and then tried to sue me because he claimed 'his' artwork was being used to promote my album! I look forward to that going to court. Ian D
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Sold to that man! Good choice Pete! Ian D Love Committee and Infernal Blues Machine now sold. Ian D Jackie Wilson sold! Ian D site note "sold" posts merged link below has the score on best practices
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Having a bit of a summer clearout, so here's some oddball UK bits and pieces which are nice to own:- Jackie Wilson "Whatcha Gonna Do About Love" UK Brunswick Promo M £25.00 SOLD! Lou Ragland "Since You Said You'd Be Mine" UK Warner Brothers Promo NM £60.00 Ray Munnings "It Could Happen To You" UK Tammi Promo M £50.00 Love Committee "Tired Of Being Your Fool" Unreleased UK 7" Single-Sided Test Pressing NM 80.00 SOLD! Krystal Generation "Wanted Dead Or Alive" UK Mercury NM £25.00 Watson T. Browne "What Can I Say" UK Pye Promo M £25.00 Baby Washington "I've Got To Break Away" UK People Promo M £20.00 Chuck Jackson "I Only Get The Feeling" UK Probe VG+ £40.00 The Younghearts "Number One Attraction" UK ABC Promo NM £15.00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NZn2Wbdw Infernal Blues Machine "Ain't That Love" UK London Promo M £20.00 SOLD PM me if interested. All buyers on a first come first served basis. Free 1st class postage on everything. Ian D
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Yep but entirely predictable considering the spat that Rochelle Fleming and Jean Terrell had over some guy called "Nathan Jones" which is actually a First Choice outake from the rejected second Sceptre single (which Sceptre rejected for sounding like the Supremes, remember). The Supremes heard the First Choice demo tape, nicked the song and got it out whilst First Choice were between labels. Norman never forgave Motown and revenge was sweet when "Armed & Extremely Dangerous" became a huge hit........ I think Jean Terrell was pretty cheesed off about it...... Ian D
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I managed to find some goodies on my shelf trawl - lovely UK promos on Tommie Young, Barbara Hall, Diane Jenkins, Ray Munnings, Baby Washington, Lou Ragland, Infernal Blues Machine, The Younghearts and a few oddities.... What the hell is this.....? I'm actually clearing down a few things so if anyone is after any of this stuff, then check the sales thread later on. They need to go to good homes. Ian D
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OK, I just did a sweep of my some of UK shelves and I think one of rarest UK has to be this:- Love Committee - Tired Of Being Your Fool Unissued UK Pressing SPSR 427 Single-sided 7" test pressing. I guess it could be EMI when they were distributing Salsoul in the UK. Just a blank white label no writing but unmistakably Love Committee.Probably no more than a handful.... Ian D
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Actually it's still kind of relevent. When I was working @ EMI in the early 80's, it was sometimes difficult to even find the 7"! The only people who needed 'em were the radio pluggers. Quite often they'd get a basic 'service' which meant that anything that wasn't a radio priority (ie virtually all Soul releases) just got blanket-mailed to the radio stations and generally forgotten about within a week. 9 times out of 10, they'd be the ones which would be lining the promotion offices shelves and be dumped every few months. It's hardly surprising that tons of these never made it to the shops. I've often gone into thrift or junk shops in the U.S. and found 100's of the same promo record, almost like the entire pressing run had been dumped just to get rid of it and that would apply to virtually all of the majors at some point or other. I've found 100 count boxes of Eloise Laws and Segments of Time promos in a flea market - shame I never found Billy Woods in that kind of quantity! Also Steve, see if you can find a 7" of Satoshi Tomiie featuring Arnold Jarvis "And I Loved You" (FFRR F134). Same vibe as "It's Hard Sometimes" and equally as rare IMO. Ian D
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Actually, I'm off with an injured foot. Somehow I knackered my left foot again so I've got to rest it for a few days. However, I'm actually planning to go through my shelves this weekend and pull out some interesting UK 70's and 80's releases. One thing I'm finding out is that a LOT of 70's and 80's releases are rarer than people may think. I've had 125 U.S. 70's and 80's promos pulled from Discogs because no one's loaded them yet - I'll often use the issue listing and use the comment section to explain the differences between the issue and the promo. But Discogs (quite rightly) insist that the promo needs a seperate entry. I don't have time to do that, so I'm actually accumulating a big pile of unlisted stuff including the stuff that there's no entries for. I think that there's a LOT of 70's and 80's singles which are rare on 7" - especially when albums and 12"'s were the most commercial formats. Also a lot of the 7" mixes were different to the album and 12" versions. Sometimes the 7" is massively different to the other versions and much much rarer 'cos no one was really buying 7"'s at the time. Anyway, if I find anything interesting I'll whack 'em on here and get the thread back on track LOL..... Ian D
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There's a huge competition to locate the UK's most intelligent dog. Eventually it boils down to three dog owners and their dogs. The dog owners are an architect, a maths professor and a record company A&R man. The dogs are each given a pile of dog biscuits and the winner will be decided by the amount of intelligence and creativity the dogs can display by each manipulating their respective piles of dog biscuits. The architect's dog starts first and builds an exact scale model of the Taj Mahal with his biscuits. The maths professor's dog goes next and manipulates his biscuits into the exact equation for the Pythagoras theorum. The A&R man's dog goes last and grinds his biscuits into a powder, snorts it all, f*cks the other 2 dogs and leaves early. Ian D
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Roburt. I was THERE mate. I'd got into Wand/Sceptre because Mel Cheren fancied me and thus allowed me to go through the Wand/Sceptre promo cupboard in the mail-out room. There was an air vent system right next to the promo cupboard which fed into the meeting room next door so I heard the EXACT conversation OK? Ian D
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Mmmm. Interesting. I can probably check that out for sure 'cos I have semi-access to Stan Watson and Rochelle Fleming as well if necessary. But that strikes me as being EXACTLY what happened because it makes total sense. When "This Is The House (Where Love Died)" first appeared on import in the UK it was immediately tagged as 'Northern Soul' on Record Corner's lists (along with N.F. Porter's "Keep On Keeping On", the Fuller Brother's "Time's A Wasting" and Limme & The Family Cooking's "You Can Do Magic"). So, in a Sceptre Records A&R meeting, when First Choice came up, this would have been the conversation:- Boss: "So what's the deal with the First Choice record....."? Minion: "Jack Shit. A few sales in Philly but that's it. Oh....I forgot....we shipped 2K to England. For some reason they seem to like it over there...." Boss: "Yeah? How come"? Minion: "....I dunno.....it's kinda weird......they like the Motown shit from 5 years ago". Boss: "No shit. Seriously.....?" Minion: "Yeah...I know....it's kinda weird.....Incidentaly, they just sent me their new recording, it's called "Armed & Extremely Dangerous....." Boss: "That title is pure Motown shit. Do they sound like the Supremes"? Minion: "Well.......yeah......I guess........." Boss: "Is this another one of those 'big in England' things"? Minion: "........I.....guess......" Boss: "Release 'em. NOW! Ian D