Ian Dewhirst

Well people still want records they can't find elsewhere Kev. Of course, they can wait until something may pop up on an auction and then take their chances but this was a way in circumnavigating that option if people wanted a record right here and now. Plus, someone else just popped into the equation and now he's selling some top items, so it's obviously it's route some people want to take. Only 5 days left now anyway, so James can go back to baiting Levine again........ Ian D

Well, it's not an auction as I keep saying Simon. It's simply a sort-of bespoke wants list service which allows people to offer the price they're willing to pay against the records they want. Also bear in mind that I have nothing to do with the prices - either from the seller or buyers point of view. Believe it or not I was actually trying to do James a favour LOL as I knew he wanted a few things and, for a few days, he was perfectly happy to get involved. If he's had such close conversations with Tim you'd have thought he would have bought the items long ago. In fact, it's worked very well for the people who simply wanted certain records, were prepared to pay the price Tim wanted and now have them! Easy peasy. No auction involved just a straight transaction. Ian D

He's not selling his collection Simon. He's simply moving items that he's not ultra-precious about to people who don't mind paying the price he wants. It gives people a chance at some items they may not otherwise have found. But if it's got a Deep Soul 'b' side it'll never go! Ian D

Nah Joan. He just puts a premium on his own collection as anyone would. Ian D

When and if all the deals go through it'll probably be towards £30K-£35K. One is pending for around £9.5k at the moment. Your's was pending @ circa £5K before you lost your mind. And as Tim points out, a sale is only a sale when the dosh lands. And since you're so fond of printing personal messages here is are some of my messages to you on the Gwen Owens and Precisions following YOUR enquiry to me:- 13th August 3:52pm Will check and get back to you tomorrow OK? Any more whilst we're at it? He has a lot of big-hitters........ Ian D 13th August 4:24pm He's got a LOT! I've sold about 15 records for him so far including a ????? for £8K so he's for real. If anything you'd have a really good chance of securing some stuff as I don't think he's a major fan of crazed psychotic Northern Soul so those kind of titles are the ones he'd prefer to let go if the truth's known. No Mello Souls though I'm afraid Worth doing a list with your best offers included as I'm speaking to him tomorrow morning so I can come back with ays, nays or maybes tomorrow afternoon..... Ian D 14th August 1:21pm Morning James, He's come back with two of your wants:- Precisions "My Sense Of Direction" Hen-Mar £2000 Gwen Owens "Just Say Your Wanted & Needed" Velgo £3200 (None Skipping Copy) Please note that I have nothing to do with the prices - he basically tells me what he wants for his copy and I convey that so I'm merely the messenger in all this. This is par for the course as he seems reluctant to part with anything unless he gets the price he wants! So let me know if this acceptable or not and we'll proceed. Best, Ian D 15th August 2:23pm Yeah, I thought that. It's a pretty fair offer and it's my guess he'll come back @ around the £4,500 mark unless I'm sorely mistaken. His prices are definitely top-end, but he says his Gwen Owens is one of the very few decent ones and he says the price on the Precisions has shot up in the last year or so, so let's see what happens. I'll speak to him now..... You don't want a 4 Vandals original do ya........? Ian D 15th August 9:32pm Well we're close James. Maybe not close enough but close nonetheless. It's basically all down to the Precisions record I reckon. There a bit more demand on it probably because you want it - that's what always pissed me off as a DJ back in the day 'cos I always ended up having to pay a premium if I had to have something. The least he'll take on the Precisions is £1800. He reckons he can sell it at that without breaking a sweat as he knows someone else who wants it and it simply hasn't turned up anywhere. He says if another turns up it'll only go on auction anyway and this one's in the hand and available now. So he's looking @ £5K for the two. He'll send me the records down and you can play 'em. and a bank transfer will be fine. Ask yourself what are the chances of getting both of these in one fell swoop anywhere else? Decisions, decisions. He's sold around £25K's worth of absolute gems in the last week and he's halfway to the £50K he needs so don't dick around too long! Ian D 17th August 11:35pm OK, James. Great offer and he's considering it. Should know tomorrow touch wood. Best, Ian D 20th August 9:54pm Hi James, Sorry mate. I've been away for 2 days - just got back. Will chase up tomorrow OK? Ian D 20th August 10:46pm The Gwen Owens is sorted. It's been the Precisions which I've been held up on. Are you saying that you don't want either of 'em then? I've sold 25K's worth already so I'm not messing around but I am only a middleman here...... Let me know as I don't want to get egg on my face if I can avoid it OK? Ian D 20th August 11:36pm Nah, he's pulling your pisser. He'd never pay 20% commission being the tight Northern bastard that his is LOL. I've sold a few records for him at very good prices and made a few quid, so no big deal. I've been wholesaling Tim's general stock for the last few years to some mainstream customers so I've always done business with him but not on any top end Northern for a while. He just didn't want it to be general knowledge as they're from his own collection so he viewed 'em differently, if you see what I mean. Everyone's been treated the same here and most people are pretty happy with the records they're getting. Tim's difficult as well, so it's not always an easy task. Don't shoot yourself in the foot with the Gwen Owens - no jumpers are pretty thin on the ground and he rates it highly! I thought £3200 was a steal personally and you know the score on the Precisions. You could have had that for £1200 a year ago! I've done a lot of people favours here James. Tim was going to sit on a lot of stuff much longer until I started asking him how precious he was about certain big-hitters and whether he thought he'd keep 'em forever! I'm surprised at some of the titles he's let go, but they've all gone to good homes so pretty positive all round IMO! Ian D 21st August 11:10am You contacted me you prat. Don't you remember? "hi ian, you got a precisions on hen-mar "my sense of direction"? ATB JT" I then attempted to get it for you. I don't know why you have it in for me. I've done nothing but try and fulfil a request for you. Oh well....... Ian D I don't know why you're so consumed with hatred. You need therapy. Ian D

No bitterness here Mr Mildly Annoying. Just plenty of people who have got their records and are very happy with 'em. Just sold another 5 records this morning as a matter of fact. The fact is that many people on S.S. don't deal with Tim for one reason or another and so this gives them an opportunity to get the records via another route. Simples. Tim's known me for 38 years so trusts me to cut to the quick and not dick around unlike other people. And your figures are about as impressive as anyone who works for the major financial institutions i.e. completely wrong. As if Tim Brown would give a 20% commission on records from his own collection. Laughable. You have a lot to learn....... Ian D

Of course Tim knew what I was doing you twat. That was the whole point. The excercise was to locate anyone who might not otherwise deal with him and/or new buyers. And even occasionally someone who may have dicked him around in the past and was possibly too embarassed to contact him again. Ring any bells perchance? I suggest you retire away to your own little bubble of self-importance and fester away with your teeming hatred elsewhere 'cos you don't do yourself any favours on here. Plus you're no spring chicken yourself these days - a bit too middle-aged to be playing the angry young man card and christening yourself with childish nicknames. Ian D

Well folks, this nicely ends a years worth of weekly solo ORIGINAL MASTERCUTS show for yours truly. From next week Alan Champ and myself will be broadcasting the show LIVE from Swansong 4 in Chertsey and from September onwards we'll both be sharing the honours every Sunday afternoon. So lots of my faves from the last 12 months in the various categories on the last of the weekly solo shows, so for those who missed the live show, then please enjoy the download! Many thanks to all for listening! The Sunday afternoon crowd is the best audience out there! Love to all! Six Million Steps Presents The Original Mastercuts Show with Ian Dewhirst Sunday 23rd August 2009 on everyone's favourite Soul station www.starpointradio.com. Hour 1 The Sigma Sound Orchestra That's Where The Happy People Go Piano Interlude The Originals Down To Love Town Dimitri From Paris Remix Randy Crawford All I Do DJ Fudge feat the Cheli Project Close To My People Barbara St Clair Teacher Man Atomix Re-Edit Passage I See The Light Leonard Lidell Keep It Secret Armed Gang - You Stan The Man Breath Of Fresh Air Spank Oh Baby The Trammps Shine A Light Hour 2 Clyde McPhatter Please Give Me One More Chance Edward Hamilton & The Arabians Baby Don't You Weep The Isley Brothers My Love Is Your Love (Forever) Frank Beverly & The Butlers If That's What You Wanted The Casanova Two We Got To Keep On Rock Candy Alone With No Love The Montclairs Hung Up On Your Love Spyder Turner I've Been Waiting Gene Redding Once A Fool Lee Garrett See The Love In Your Eyes Collins & Collins You Know How To Make Me Feel Good Tiffany Villareal You, Yourself & You Ivan Neville My Brother, My Brother Mark Cappani I Believe In Miracles Johnny Taylor What About Me Love https://www.sixmillio...3-Starpoint.mp3 See you @ 2.00pm LIVE from Swansong 4 in Chertsey next Sunday Afternoon and then see the Essex crowd over @ Ashwell's Country Club next Sunday evening! Gonna be a monster weekend! Ian D

Cheers Dave. Just the image I've been trying to cultivate LOL. If getting people records they really want puts me down as a spiv then fair enough. Happily everyone who's received their records is delighted so far....... Ian D

Whew. One year's worth of solo weekly ORIGINAL MASTERCUTS shows hits the final straight today folks. Next week Al and I will co-present the show LIVE from the Chertsey All-Dayer and from then on we'll be sharing the honours. So no excuses for this week's show. I'm playing some of my faves from the last 12 months of shows so should be fun! Featuring....... The Sigma Sound Orchestra * The Originals * Randy Crawford * DJ Fudge feat the Cheli Project * Barbara St Clair * Passage * Leonard Lidell * Armed Gang * Stan The Man * Spank * The Trammps * Clyde McPhatter * Edward Hamilton & The Arabians * The Isley Brothers * Frank Beverly & The Butlers * The Casanova Two * Rock Candy * The Montclairs * Spyder Turner * Gene Redding * Lee Garrett * Collins & Collins * Tiffany Villareal * Ivan Neville * Mark Cappani * Johnny Taylor Join me LIVE @ 2.00pm on www.starpointradio.com and let the party begin! Ian D

Yes I know it is Ian. But......have you heard it? Sam played it once, phew! Yep. Not my cup of tea. yes COD's was played at Wigan, does that make it good / a must have then? Nope. Especially not after '76..... Is Tim only selling "Trophy Records" ? Nope. Far from it. A bit of everything really. Even some Sweet Soul and Funk. And Lee Charles I don't really know, I have been told it exists but have never seen one. I'm not sure if anyone has have they? Ian D

Yep, I'm sat here licking my wounds cancelling the porsche I would have bought with my massive commission on Gwen Owens..... Ian D

Yes. Soul Revolution last year. We said hello. Ian D

Ken, I'm just wondering......do you think this should go in Sales......? Ian D

He's frantically trying to finish a book for the third busted deadline and realised that he needed to re-write the first few chapters again plus a few foreign zoo visits means he's a busy lad. He doesn't use t'internet, texts or most forms of modern technology. He's from Todd. Plus it's fair to say that he's had some new customers out of this, so it's been an interesting scenario. Not just Northern either. He's pulled records out as a result of this thread and played 'em for maybe the first or second time in his life, so it's been an interesting exercise for him as well. He's also discovered some pretty neat 'B' sides which he hadn't heard before so it's a voyage of discovery as well......it's a big world out there and a lot of people collect different stuff. There's a few titles which Tim's never heard or seen before so you never know everything! A good learning curve....even for Tim! Ian D

I think it may have gone Bearsy. I'll check and PM ya back....... Ian D

I moved to the U.S. in '76 and never went back to the Casino after then, so anything after '76 is possible. So presumably that's been a rare record for over 30 years then? You'd think a few more copies would have surfaced wouldn't you.......? Ian D

It's a shame he's not married LOL. I reckon impending divorce settlements are the quickest way to liberate collections these days! And as long as I've known him I've never know him to be desperate to sell anything. Or buy anything for that matter. Out of curiosity, has anyone ever signed a pre-nuptial agreement which ring-fenced their records? Ian D

Was "She's Fire" played @ Wigan then? Searling cover-up maybe? Ian D

Now there's a record that's just too fast for aging legs surely........? I bet it's a floor-clearer isn't it? Ian D

Good point well made Nev. I thought the price was too high as well and said as much but you can't teach Tim how to suck eggs! He's turned down a lot of stuff for the sake of a few quid IMO, but that's the premium he puts on stuff from his collection. I've got exactly the same situation from someone other than Tim right now LOL. HE wants anonymity and he knows I'm trustworthy so no doubt we'll go through another song and dance whilst everyone tries to figure out who seller # 2 is! Congrats on getting the record @ the price you wanted mate. Last night I was involved in a huge deal for a record I wouldn't have paid £100 for but to each their own..... Ian D

Hi Kev, Nope it's not a cash-sharing community and it never was. I don't remember anyone accusing any record dealers of leaching off the scene when I was paying small fortunes for records in the 70's and nothing much has changed since then except the prices. 1) Damn right I'm standing my corner. I think it's a handy service and it's still open to anyone who wants to enquire about their wants. Everyone's treated exactly the same and there's no favouritism. 2) Agreed. I don't air my personal grievances over public forums anyway. I think it's bad form. 3) We all wanna buy cheap. Who doesn't want a bargain? But on some occasions you simply HAVE to have a record and if price is not so much of a consideration you go for it don't you? I don't remember anyone leaping to my defence when I paid £40 for the Tomangoes in '74 or thereabouts. It's the nature of the beast....... I didn't ask for any negativity on here. I got personally attacked and insulted for reasons which still aren't clear. I tried to do the guy a favour but, hey, lesson learnt LOL...... Ian D

Taste is a concept that's open to lot's of conjecture Steve. By the way, what's the story on that Lee Charles record? Was it an official release? Ian D

You're welcome David. Many thanks mate. This deal is typical of how things can work like clockwork if people understand the process. I've never met Dave to my knowledge, but he sent a list of the records he wanted and what he was prepared to pay for them, I got back to him and a deal was done. An easy process that nonetheless still took a few PM's, some argy-bargying with Tim, some running around and lots of postage. As David said the prices are not bargains but they're the prices which Tim wants for his collection pieces. I should point out that Tim has turned down probably 80% of requests because he either doesn't have 'em, they have a Deep Soul side, he wants to keep the item or he thinks they're worth more than the price offered. And a few bob is really closer to the truth than anyone realises as Tim is still getting to grips with decimalization! Those were beautiful copies as well weren't they? I checked 'em to make sure. Best, Ian D

As per usual you're really showing your ignorance here James. For a start, as anyone who knows Tim Brown well will tell you, he's the last guy to pay decent commissions on sales and he prides himself on being the tightest of the tight LOL. All that's happened is I had some philosophical discussions with Tim about why he would want to keep records that he either doesn't like or wouldn't ever play and wouldn't he be better off liberating 'em to someone else who could use them and was willing to pay Tim's price. As a result a load of rare records have been freed up. Tim sets the prices. Not me. My commission is tiny and believe you me it's hard-earned. He wanted to keep his own collection seperate from his usual Anglo American business and therefore wanted to target people who may really want particular records that otherwise would simply remain on his shelves forever. Using me to put the feelers out and contacting people has resulted in him parting with titles that he simply would never have particularly thought about selling. There's been quite a few surprises. The whole point of doing it this way was because he doesn't have a lot of time at the moment and therefore rather than getting hundreds of calls from numerous people, I'll call him and discuss who wants what and it's a relatively simple yes, no or maybe. You've really got the wrong end of the stick here and why you would want to accuse me of half the stuff you've mentioned is just beyond me. I don't get it. I'm pretty sure that everyone I've dealt with thus far is delighted to get their hands on these records and Tim's happy because he got the price he wanted. Nobody is pressured - Tim gives the price he wants and people either say ay or nay. What he chooses to pay in commission is up to him and nobody else's business anyway. It's NOT an auction. So it's not a question of 'bidding'. Which part of the process do you not understand? Tim sets the price and if you want the record you say yes and if you don't you say no. Tim's not negotiating on the prices he sets for his own collection hence I have no input on the prices he sets. Anyone can ask Tim and he'll say the same. What really kind of upsets me is that I genuinely pressured Tim on both the records you wanted and wasted a lot of time. The Precisions was a straight no but I kept badgering him. He'd rather keep the Gwen Owens anyway - there's not many copies around that don't jump which is why he set such a high premium on it and that was a 10 minute discussion in itself. You and I had a chain of perfectly reasonable messages between us, I went away for 36 hours and came back to a character assassination that was completely unwarranted. Terms like "deflationary action", "leaching resources out the scene" and "the fragile eco system of rare soul" suggest that maybe you misunderstand the mechanics of this process. Tim's been selling rare Northern for the last 30 years and I've traded records of all types most of my life, so nothing new or revoltionary is happening here. It's merely been a resource to free up some records which were wasted on Tim's shelves and most people are happy to have the opportunity to get their hands on their wants. It seems to me that you have a few issues mate. An anger-management course may be an idea. What's not a good idea is to deliberately try and antagonise people with personal remarks that are basically nasty. What possible upside can there be by going through life with that attitude? Ian D