Ian Dewhirst

Truer words were never spake LOL..... Ian D

Who Herbert? Yes. Bang on! Ian D

Definitely an ender for me Kev. If I'd had that in '75 it would have worked like a dream with the Voices Of East Harlem, Anderson Brothers and others of that ilk.......and I've still got the UK demo of Boz on my shelves 40 years later but only ever played it on the radio show..... Ian D

Oh, I do know Martin (smartass that I am):- Composer/AuthorTAYLOR, BOBBY 63481773 BMI Non SocietyComposer/AuthorCAPANNI, MARK 69067159 BMI Non SocietyOriginal PublisherMARY MAR 239319849 BMI AMRASub PublisherGEMINI SONGS 270068579 PRSFinal OwnerMCPS You still haven't forgiven me for closing my set on Saturday with Jean Carn have ya? Ian D

It's all down to personal opinion surely Bri? I think it's a production masterpiece and a magnificent song. I far prefer it to the Jackson Sisters which has always sounded messy to my ears, even during the Rare Groove years. As I said earlier in the thread, it merely follows the tradition of an ultra rare decent blue-eyed Soul tune. Some will like it, some won't.......still someone just forked over a grand for an original and Jazzman's reissued it so presumably there's a few out there who like it. Also I more or less concurr with Sebastian that Mark Capanni is merely following the tradition of other West Coast blue-eyed 'Soulful' vocalists like Ned Doheny and Boz Scaggs etc. Ian D

More than people may think I reckon. At that time the Birmingham/Wolverhampton area was a major trek from deeper North - there was no M62 for a start, so Birmingham/Wolverhampton was at the outer reaches for most people. I seem to remember that Leeds-Birmingham could be a 4-5 hour journey back then so the only times I ever got there really were for All-Dayers, which were always a revelation musically. Naturally we bumped into plenty of people from there at other events so we'd get to hear about some of the stuff that was being played - Little Joe Romans being a good example. Plus people like Graham Warr were among the first to go to the States so there were always a lot of great records around that neck of the woods. Unfortunately Sam usually got to 'em first! Ian D

That was a common fault on the Holland & Dozier UK 45 which I spent hours agonising over whether it was a jump or a terrible edit. I know what you mean though Pete. Your ears get attuned to this stuff, especially at an impressionable age........ Ian D

Snowy from Doncaster was singing the praises of The Steinways a long time before I heard it anywhere out for sure......I also seem to remember Pep having a copy as well......... Ian D

Psychedelic Soul surely? Ian D

"The Happening" - The Supremes - a nice usage of a 60's San Franciscan term turned around quite nicely for a typical Motown pop tune. "Spill The Wine" - The Isley Brothers - great cover of Eric Burdon & War's ultimate Stoner anthem. Ian D

I'm pretty sure this was a Soussan discovery. I seem to recall it being on one of his L.A. lists in the early 70's........ Ian D

What? U.S. A.V.I. 12"'s? I never saw many of 'em in years of trawling for 12"'s. I'm pretty sure A.V.I.'s pressing runs at that period weren't much more than a few hundred 'cos most of the later releases are difficult to find IMO..... Ian D

Yep, with the instrumental on the other side too! I've not seen many of those around..... Ian D

That makes a change! Ian D

True. It's just that the only person who's doing OK out of music these days is Steve Jobs. There's not much meat on i-tunes prices if you're unlucky enough to be a musician/songwriter and obviously no meat at all on free downloads. So it's all a bit of a mess I'm afraid. I think the difference is that music is simply far too easily available these days and as a result it's lost a lot of the mystique it used to have so consequentely today's youth don't value it in anything like the same way that us older folk do by and large. As you say, when I was a kid it'd mean having to order up a 7" @ Woods in Huddersfield and wait a week before it arrived. These days you can get virtually anything you want within seconds with a click of the mouse. As they say, familiarity breeds contempt and it's never be truer when it comes to music in 2010. Amen. Ian D

No one under 35 years bothers buying music anymore - that's the problem right there. But why would they? They get everything for free and swap complete libraries between themselves on bluetooth or stream everything on Spotify. They listen to everything on crap i-pod/mobile/computer speakers so they're not actually bothered about quality. They're all about instant access and instant gratification. My 16 year old daughter wouldn't dream of spending valuable money on a 'free' commodity like music when she can spend it on more sensible things like clothes, make-up and going out etc, etc. There's a huge difference between the youth of today and the youth of the 60's, 70's, 80's and even 90's. These days they don't need to seek out music 'cos it's free and only ever one click away whenever they want it! Ian D

He speaks the truth Beeks. UK sales are absolutely abysmal right now - the worst they've ever been in history in fact. That's why so many record companies/labels/pressing plants/record shops and related businesses have gone down the pan in the last few years - surely you must have noticed? Exports and Foreign sales are holding up quite nicely though, so things are obviously not as bad in other territories. If artists/record companies can't cover their costs in their own domestic territories then they won't be able to afford to put their music out full stop unless they have a reasonable international fan base. I work for a large record company and every single release has to be justified and backed up with a successful profit template otherwise it doesn't get released. I wouldn't have released ANYTHING in the last 12 months if it wasn't for the export markets. The UK market can't support itself at the moment 'cos sales have dropped off a cliff over the last couple of years especially. Maybe the digital economy bill will make a difference if it stops illegal downloading and focuses people on buying music again but if you have any magical fixes then let us know 'cos we're all ears....... Ian D

Imagine paying a grand for something to chill-out to though......... Ian D

Well, I guess that answers the question posed earlier in the thread then. Ian D

Pep used to lug his regular boxes around everywhere. They were always full of impossibly rare records, all on white demos if I remember correctly. And there was a less than zero chance that he'd ever flog 'em. He wanted people to drool and drool we did LOL...... So I too used to look through his box but I never thought for one moment that his Volcanoes "Rules Of Love" or Little Joe Romans "Lonesome" would be available anytime soon. I just liked looking at 'em. And I believe ya when you say that you're as honest as the day is long Dave. Any guy that goes by the dual monikers of 'Dthedrug' and 'Dave The Dipper' is obviously worth keeping an eye on! But whatever you do, don't trust that Ady Croasdel. He's from London y'know............ Ian D

That's the inherent fear of someone else's superior knowledge. Every record dealer's curse. I'm actually glad I never got too paranoid about that aspect. I like to share music so no big deal if my records go to someone who can make better use of 'em. Some records are better off with a new owner rather than festering on my shelves for 30-40 years. So records need to move on sometimes. Plus it's lovely to see records that passed through your hands eventually find an audience. I've lost count of the amount of times I've taken an interest in a record and it suddenly becomes harder to own BECAUSE I've taken an interest. So that's why I had to develop a more nonchalant, easy going, none enthusiastic stance to buying rare records over the years. And then, when a few deals went my way, people accused me of being a two-faced confidence trickster. You can't win either way...... What I don't get is when I've revisited a shop and the owner immediately says something like, "Well, this time it's gonna cost ya, 'cos you ripped me off last time". Rubbish. I liberated clearly priced records that he wanted to sell at the time at the price he put on 'em and was happy to sell 'em at. Just because I was lucky enough to to find his shop at my time and expense and buy some of his stock at the price he wanted, how's that ripping someone off? Superior knowledge must be major irritant to dealers. It's hard to keep on top of everything and new scenes develop all the time so I guess there's a natural paranoia on an ongoing basis. It was exactly the same in the 70's with second-hand record shops and market stalls, where a healthy atmosphere of mutual suspicion would be routine between dealers and customers. All part of the rich tapestry etc, etc......... Ian D

Get with the programme Soulman. Didja read the thread? Exists on original 45 and extremeley rare hence the thread. This copy's just come up so it'll be interesting to see where the price ends up (sorry any bidders from S.S. by the way). There was some speculation earlier in the thread as to it's value, so this is an interesting auction. Also just re-issued by Jazzman. I wouldn't class it as funky at all - it's straight blue-eyed Modern Soul to me. Ian D

Mmm. An original has just popped up on the bay - it'll be interesting to see what it goes for...... https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320531301320&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 Ian D

Well, it was irresistible force versus an immoveable object but I seem to remember £40 being the benchmark. And no Kev, you'd have laughed me out of the Casino for £11........... Ian D

You were young and innocent back then. Besides, it's not like it was easy to get records out of you anyway! Ian D