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shame...almost put jo-ann back in the box for last weeks go go children...guess i will for the next...top tune

i played it at camber a few years back ;-)...and its also been played at go go children by a couple of djs...great tune

big thanx for giving me your copy from the car at go go children saturday greg!...some oh soooooo soulful tunes on there...beautiful...and so different than what i buy on vinyl....only gospel i have is kindly shepherds and cassietta george...so far!...great packaging and notes too dean

but i wasnt saying that...i would never play a record i didnt like...or because its rare.......but i dont wanna hear and wouldnt play my top 100 every time i go out...there are oldies i dont like as much as tomangoes but havnt heard played out for ages so would be more of a buzz to me on the dancefloor when i hear the intro...than oh its tomangoes again...but again we digress...again

i did say 'some' of the blue eyed soul pete...ofcourse there was some good blue eyed soul played at the 60s clubs but im sure some of those early jocks overlooked tunes that would later make their way onto wigan playlists.....as im always hearing wigan was great in the early days then not so good in the middle with all the pop being played before being rescued at the end by searling etc...but maybe im wrong either way i dont want to take yet another thread off corse!!

and as for underplayed being describes as...records played just to be different because if it was good it would have been played before...most northern tunes were flops in the 60s but we all know (unlike those outside the scene) that it doesnt mean they are not great tunes...better in fact than most of those huge motown and stax soul hits .....as i said if in the early 70s record diggers in the states did overlook them for all the big wigan monsters that are now classic oldies...doesnt mean they were crap ..just they were not as good as tomangoes etc...but does that mean 30 years later you still just wanna hear tomangoes when you go out week after week? my desert island discs would probably be mainly big oldies...i admit that...but going out every weekend i wanna hear what other mainly 60s american black music tunes are out there too

maybe you misunderstand me or maybe i didnt write it very well!.....my point was soul clubs pre wigan were not playing a lot of blue eyed soul especially the poppy side of it but a few years down the line it was played at wigan and is now called northern soul...some good and some bad...just like the funky stuff and rnb played now....i dont think the future of the scene is all funk....and keeping away from venues that play a little can restict you from having some great nites.....there were people i know at go go for the first time saturday who went to wigan and i quote'dont like rnb and that funky stuff' but as they are friends came and gave it ago and loved it...friends or not!...they didnt love every tune but still had a great nite...trust me i wouldnt want to go to a nite and hear funk all night...but to be honest anymore that straight northern all night...mix it up...northern classics,underplayed,rnb,latin,funky edged..as long as it makes most of the club dance it cant be bad..can it? dean

anyway im gonna go now and drive my van doing some work listening to the funky/gospel discs greg and kev gave me at the weekend...dont suppose i'll like em all but id rather listen to them than an oldies disc from asda!! dean

as far as why werent they played before...tastes change for a start....why wasnt some of the blue eyed soul at wigan played at the torch or wheel?.. and i used to dj with a reggae sound and would be getting maybe a dozen new release tracks every week!!..and 50 at a time straight from JA...sometimes when you have an abundance of tunes you do overlook some for the best tracks those tracks that hit you straight away..just like it must have been back in the day when you were all tripping over great northern tunes....

well like a lot of you started reading and then skimming through this thread...my thoughts and opinions not aimed at anyone in particuliar!! i wonder is it because we are getting on a bit or sat at a pc that we get so narrow minded sometimes... i never went to wigan or mecca but some of those tunes now classed as northern oldies were in no way the type of soul that dave godin named northern....some were funky edged even then...some garage bands and some blatant teen pop... ive been going to 'northern' nites since the 80s and dont like it all....who does?...if they play funky edged at a northern nite whats the problem as long as its not all night....go and chat vinyl,have a drink or a smoke if you do...i have to when they play disco...i mean 70s and modern! ;-)...but i dont moan about it..i cant dance to the slower 70s funk but the uptempo stuff..bring it on regarding george...blew the roof off go go children..(.lots of younger people there though!!!) but not all.. plenty soulies too...played a few northern tunes and even 60s motown although yes mainly funky stuff...ARSE KICKIN UPTEMPO STUFF THAT MADE YOU DANCE!!!! yes go go children is not a northern soul night...although the majority are soul fans...and along with rnb and funky stuff theres lots of northern played...check this month playlists!.....guests have inc...johnny beggs who played lots of latin...pete tebbit who played some big mod numbers...warren boogaloo,des parker,trowbridge matt,sean chapman,pete lyster,dr pickles,mick lloyd and more who are all djs on the northern scene...my point is the playing of something different is nothing new and we have people who are oldies fans come down and dance and have a good time....despite they wide range of music...it can be done the reason they are not posting on ss?....despite having a massive ammount of members and being the busiest soul forum....most people out roll their eyes whenever i mention soulsource...and thats not just at go go children either... dean

190+ people in..greg belson and gary scrase guesting... a mix of oldies,lesser known..rnb and soul...some first time spins and go go faves..OVO...this was me,seemed to work! 930-1015 i wonder why-ambassadors i want to know-mearle spears gonna do it for myself-jimmy ellis if you dont need me-tyrone davis miss fine-danny white big mama-the experts come on now-tommy bush you changed my life around-charles farren give your love to me-lou courtney baby i know-lee drummond spoiled child-gary brown cant stop loving my baby-ray charles love knot-chuck wells i believe-bertha tillman when he speaks-dianne elliott 1230 -115 stick with me baby-sampy and the bad habits peace-pete mayes when i see my babys face-blondell breed and the imports pow city-freddie scott through fooling around-shindig smith im a big man-daddy rogers dont knock it-sinner strong if you wanna-baby jean do you still love me-cookie jackson lend me a hand-kindly shepherds pour all my love-johnny rome take it or leave it-satisfactions just another girl-four pros honest to goodness-diplomats im a good women-barbara lynn im the one who loves you-lavern baker one more chance-shirley lawson if thats what you wanted-frank beverly next month adam topping and mark white!..see you there? dean

this saturday at go go children we have greg belson guesting....we didnt do it to get a spot in L.A...honest ;-)... but seriuosly as a dj id like more guest spots and im out as far as my wallet can take me every weekend...not to get gigs but to enjoy myself dancin...if i get a spot its a bonus if i dont get asked after years of going to a club it doesnt wind me up but as a promoter it can be tuff because id like to give loads mor djs a spot at go go children but despite playing every month we dont get time!....yes there are a few djs who come back every year but thats not because they are our mates its because they are good and our crowd have asked for them back!...and thats the important bit a djs gotta fit with your club..we are all booked up this year and i already have the next 6 months after that mapped out in my head!! dean

personally i think there are enuff dates in the diary full stop!...just wish some would start mixin it up a bit...sadly thats only my opinion there are a big majority of 'punters' who are more than happy with the same old...so those promoters are gettin people in so are also happy with the same old...whether that be genre or dj dean

cheers rod...'run' by young people ...dont get called young very often any more...but yes down here in bristol we do get more than the average amount of youngsters at soul nites....helps obviously being in a big city,with universities and being in reasonably central clubs....but most dont seem to mind dancing alongside people that are as old as their parents...maybe its a bristol thing as both reggae and dance music clubs have people of all ages out all night!....we arent getting many teens but certainly 20s/30s... dean

we wouldnt have a lot of the oldies we have today if it was not for djs doin precisely that!....so many 'northern' soul oldies are not northern in the strict sense of the genre...famously carstairs,bob relf,world column..emptied floors ay first were not four to the floor uptempo 60s thats the mental thing...oldies only fans saying we shouldnt have funky or rnb and things they dont know...WEVE ALWAYS HAD SOME FUNKY,RNB AND THINGS WE DIDNT KNOW...THE SCENE HASNT CHANGED...THE MUSIC ALWAYS HAS!!...and you have! dean

i understand the original post and have 'liked' a few replies and i didnt wanna mention our club go go children down here in bristol as it seems like a shameless plug!...but i will BECAUSE....there IS some middle ground...we play stuff that is widely unknown and rare djs get interested and come up to the decks to asks 'whos this?' AND we play some classic oldies ...(although not the snake or those massively overplayed and overpriced)...and its OVO...for those in the crowd who love kings hall etc but are not sure they would like a rare soul nite....no one will like every tune or genre...but very few have come and not had a good time.....in the past the problem has been no room to dance ,hopefully our new venue will work and this wont be a prob.... ofcourse there are too many nites full stop...and sadly some good events will suffer but not only those that play rare...but i think that soul music will always be played and hope in the future those that play GOOD QUALITY TUNES THAT MAKE YOU WANNA DANCE WHETHER YOU KNOW THE TUNE OR NOT WILL SURVIVE! dean

merle spears is an rnb killer...check it out on you tube if you dont know it...first label too

just another girl-four pros twinkle little star-parisians im a big man-big daddy rogers and a lot of the classics already mentioned!...although cant remember exactly where more recently... jt parker..if you wanna hold on kindly shepherds...lend me your hand ray agee-im losing again backslop-baby earl and the trinidads

last weekend went to a 'antiques' store in an old victorian ex hospital niccis parents had look round...went to look at a couple of bits of retro furniture for the house...wasnt too excited...till i saw a box of records...same old shit untill i came across 'this is sue' lp on pink island...a few scuffs but none that you can hear...cover a bit tatty but no tears..label EX asked how much...'thats nuffin,you can have that for a couple of quid' he said...yep that'll do dean

eddie flloyd ...brilliant!...sounded good at soul in the south allnighter and been spun a couple of times at go go too!

basically if youre playing out at an OVO venue ...as far as grapevine/kent etc goes if its unreleased in EITHER the uk OR us then its ok i dont think it has to be a kent anniversary as thats basically just like a demo?....first uk release on grapevine when theres a 60s release in the us is not OVO dean

ah yes ,can remember coming up and asking bout the nick waterhouse tune as its a john s spin...nice set there...not a warm up dj at all mate!...agree with london traffic but we knew what to expect as wed been before dean

i thought this thread was about why people dont put up playlists not about whether funk,rnb or whatever should be played at a northern nite?....a scene where the music has always changed as far as i can see from the wheel to wigan to stafford to rnb and now funky stuff...bloody hell youve got me at it now!! anyway my playlist from sundays london alldayer is up.....fire away! dean

john and myself had 45mins each so we did 5 tracks a piece till we ran out of time...this was downstairs in the rare/underplayed room...not many downstairs to be fair but most were up dancin... so these were mine... im a big man-daddy rogers do you still love me-cokie jackson if you wanna-baby jean miss you so-tiny topsy im gonna do it by myself-jimmy ellis i believe-bertha tillman when he speaks-dianne elliot the love knot-chuck wells spoiled child-gary brown funky soul stroll-jesse johnson lend me your hand-kindly shepherds pour all my love-jonny rome i cant stop loving you baby-ray charles(uptempo killer not the famous ballad) back up baby-sophisticates my tears-buddy lamp when love goes wrong-lou rawls pow city-freddie scott look ahead-gordon keith open the door to your heart-the mob yes a few 'oldies' but with a small crowd was about mixin it up...seemed to work dean

never been.....booked for next year...thought we better see what all the fuss was about... know the campsite stuff though dj'd at hemsby and camber for the last 4 years or so...much the same i should imagine...camber has had a face lift too and we will be in the soul room in 2 weeks! dean