Goldsoul

Shame she didn't do The Steinways and Glories classics.

Mike. Dave Evison's Saturday show has been off air for a year. The station he was on have gone bust(Focal)

Who did them, was it Mr Roberts & Goldsoul?

Was it you.....I think it was. It's official Marsha Gee is behind whatever the thread is rambling on about.

Ps Get a grip

pal and be respectful!

I will scan the full audio of the interview we did in 04.

In fact, I hope to re-run it on Sky this Saturday 10am-12 noon. I believe he was much older than 59. Although his discography suggests May 10,1951 as a birthdate. He formed the Dramatics in 1962.

Either way....awful news.

Ruby Andrews just posted on her Facebook page that Ron Banks, legendary lead singer of the Dramatics, has passed away in Detroit at the age of 59.

R.I.P.

A truly awful piece of news.

For the record, Ron was well over 70, not 59.

I have the interview he did with me for Sky Channel 0129 back in 2004.

I remember going to see The Drams in 81 with Frankie Crocker at the Apollo, NYC, witnessing the

most amazing routine to 'Whatcha See'... The group all threw their jackets onto a coat stand in perfect timing and straight too!

A fabulous person!

I wouldn't bother if i was you, you're just wasting your breath, the people in the know know who does things the right way & those who don't.

Just vote with your feet as i do, spend your cash on events promoted & run the right way.

Saying that i believe hardly any promoters or djs are 100% pure, i've certainly heard stories of certin djs who would be beyond reproach who have used the odd bootleg in their time & there's others who change the rules when it suits them, i remember a few years back it being ok for certain 'special' djs to play The Swans "Nitty gritty city" from i do believe 45s cut from the original acetate, not an official release as far as i'm aware so no difference for me than playing a bootleg, my apologies in advance if this is a mis-truth.

Simon

I think you are following a false trail. Our events are generally full and better organised than most....hence the numbers.

Our feeling(not policy) is...if there's a Motownish/Handbag crowd in, I have no problem with CD's and or Laptops. You won't see that at Stoke or any other RARE SOUL gig we promote. However you might see it at Long Eaton, traditionally a regular hit soul night. 700 attend....not one person has ever complained.

The only stupid comments without any foundation are on forums!

You quoted: "My other events are all OVO and I would not want it any other way". Why make this statement when it is Not True.

Obviously the likes of; Colin Curtis, Ginger Taylor &

Richard Searling (Blackpool Tower on 27th Feb) have now

become Party DJs???

Yes we are all now Party DJs. So avoid us at all costs.

Oh really Mr Roberts. Keith Fletcher plays CD's at your events. (Blackpool Tower)!!

Keith is a different animal entirely. Our Friday at the Tower Weekender is a Party night.

And though the rest of us are playing vinyl, Keith, who is not a collector, but hosts the Soul show on BBC Radio Lancs, I find it perfectly acceptable.

His brief is to play very commercial Northern. I don't want to hear Helpless-KimWeston off scratchy vinyl either.

Anyway....who's promotion is it...mine or yours. If it offends...don't go.

About 15 years ago I used to do a lot of DJ/MC work with local and national Soul Bands which ran side by side with DJ'ing and running Northern nights/allnighters etc. the band nights were more general public type nights and the most important factor was having a good time, I took 45's/Albums and CD's more based on having a large selection of tunes to select from, sometimes I used CD only it depended on the gig really, in the band sitation my job was to supply music before the band took to the stage, during their break and party time after they finished, for about four years on the trot I did a New Years Eve gig in Buxton with a soul band playing to well over 500 people and not once did anyone question me using CD's as to them it did'nt matter, however it would have been a problem if I was unable to play a Sam And Dave or Otis Redding request due to not having it on vinyl oh and before you say something here the next weekend I could be guesting at The 100 Club or some other hardcore Northern gig where Eddie Parker, Jimmy Burns, Brooks Brothers, Cashmeres etc. would feature all from authentic original USA first generation records so it's basically horses for courses, I was asked a few years ago to DJ for a guy at Stockport Football Club a Northern Night, the gig paid well was pitched at the Northern crowd but he only had or put in CD decks, the night was rammed with hardcore soulies and a mixed Motown type crowd, I did the whole night myself and the floor was buzzing, from a music perspective did it matter? did it bollocks again not once did anyone kick off about the CD format being used.

Yes of course there is something special about doing the DJ thing with authentic records and I can do both, I think the fundimental point here is that from an entertainment perspective does format really matter? and my opinion is no and certainly not for a charity night as the original poster here was trying to do, the I want to listen to a bit of Motown brigade could'nt care less what format it's played to them on, how rare it is, how much it costs or anything to do with this stamp collector mentality, their only concern is what time does the bar shut? and to have a good night out.

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Exactly what I said near the start of this thread. Thanks for outlining the difference.

Any chance you can hammer it home 'Tevez/Bellamy' style to some of the thick sods that sadly don't get it and continually ambush threads such as this without any thought or reason.?

Sorry about your loss yesterday at the Bridge. Your former hometown crushed us 5-0 yesterday!

RARE Nights and QUALITY/Enthusiasts SOUL Nights-OVO HANDBAG Nights/Parties Motown etc-CD/LAPTOP Simples.

Kev.....how come most of your posts/replies are edited??

Damn i wish i was a bit quicker ..curiosity killed the cat

p.s

To be honest Kev....your a better sport than Levine ...on a hiding to nothing but no rattles outta the pram

I'm editing one right now, otherwise the usual suspects will be offended.

WHAT A LOAD OF B******S..............how can you say such a thing mr roberts you should be ashamed of yourself

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leave me alone, I'm busy wrestling a lap top to the floor.

Blackpool tower 2009

Wednesday til I die.

Times like this it's good to be a Blade Kev

On the nostalgia scene I'd guess you're right.

Any real event like the 100 club, Lifeline, Burnley etc is a different thing. I'm a punter not a DJ and I want the real deal.

Totally agree.

Nev....Of course I self promote.....I'm a promoter!

If you were an accountant, would you push painting and decorating instead?

The Rare Room at Stoke is indeed a great one. Thanks

All I need now is for you to tell me you're a Sheff Wedneday supporter and it's beers all round!.

Which begs the question ...why post the answer on Soulsource forum you thick clod

Imho promotors who allow dj's to use cd's (except fr cd only tracks)/re-issues /boots/ carvers are only

interested in using the so called "Northern soul scene " for one purpose ...MONEY

I laugh to myself when i see so called dj's sneaking non originals on the decks....

P.s

A friend of mine is a full time dj doing weddings /parties etc ..has all the latest gadgets.....he has a laptop hooked up to his decks.

if someone asks for a record and he hasnt got it ..he downloads it on the laptop and hey presto !

Do you honestly think my team at the Kings Hall are not playing the real deal? For crikes sake!

Realise the difference between Motown nights, Soul/Northern nights and All nighters. I only subscribe to the Motown night theory of cd/laptop as those punters do not care.

My other events are all OVO and I would not want it any other way.

Kev. CDs and Laptops are only acceptable at Motownish soul nights I promote. I think you are forgetting Goldsoul run the Kings Hall Stoke.

I make a simple point that Soul night as in 'handbaggers' do not care whether it's vinyl or cd or any other format.

Do you frequent Stoke? The strongest line up of jocks anywhere playing OVO.

i wouldn't be DJing at such a place Ian!

but if i did somehow and i knew the score i couldn't complain.

Dont forget I am talking about a 'local' do that is not a 'Northern' soul nite but various Motown etc. AND i see playing off a CD no worse than playing off a booleg/carver which happens every weekend all across the country.

goes back to 2 different scenes running parrallel.....

At last a voice of sensibility.

And most o.v.o record collectors couldnt give a flying f**k if people turned up at a KRL event with forged tickets and monopoly moneyhttps://www.soul-

What a thick clot! We promote the Kings Hall Stoke which is the most successful all nighter ever! Our DJs play

original vinyl. Get with the programme.

No one mentioned big soul nights Kev . As for the 700 I would hazard a quess that 75% would'nt give a toss if you played The Jam or the likes, on CD or Vinyl

Correct! Soulnight masses could not care less. Accept it.

At All nighters and weekender's it's OVO all the way.

At handbag do's the public could not care less.

Most on SS do not frequent these type of events.

I am not a fan of playing scratched copies of This Old Heart of Mine on vinyl. The masses hate bad quality.

I have the figures to prove that Soul night folk(as in Motown etc) want a good time only. They have no interest in forums, ovo or anything else!

As for Nighters and Weekenders, that's a totally different fan base.

Got to disagree there Kev , just ask the punters at Lifeline , The Attic , Select-Soul , just name a few.

Big Soulnight crowds don't go to Lifeline or similar.

Soulnight crowds ie Heaven Must Have Sent You couldn't care less whether you play CDs or not. Ask the 700 that go to Long Eaton every month.

The majority who visit Soul nights couldn't care less. Only record collectors have any interest.

If you want to save money on past, present and future cd's go to

https://www.goldsoul.co.uk/astore.php

We have the new Lou Johnson, Westbound Northern Soul and forthcoming Double Cookin instrumentals album from Kent at 8.98!!

Also available 'The Sound of Sidra' from Outta-Sight.

These and 1,000's of titles available. Lowest prices...GUARANTEED.

keep it going lads and make the Soul Fox single a collectable bit of tat due to the nature of the contraversy this thread is generating - then I can put my copy up for sale and buy something decent with the money

I'll tell you who reminds me of Simon, did you ever see the stand up comic Boris Pincher who played Serge in Beverly Hills Cop. SS was slightly camp without even knowing it!

He looks a bit like Frankie Valli too and a major hit with the ladies.

Perish the thought!