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As previously stated on another thread, so many classy traditional Northern unknowns failed due to the Javells, Gary Lewis influence, which dancers lapped up. Remember the venue was the largest ever seen for a regular niter. To see Goodbye Nothing To Say rocking the aisles, it seriously hampered the progress of many in 1974. Plus of course the Mecca was changing too. Lots of new sounds were filtering through to the Casino. All of a sudden there would be musical casualties. Still many came back to get recognition as the scene evolved. The scene in my opinion is no different today Sure you don't hear anything as a crass as Brian Hyland's Joker Went Wild, but Pow Wow, Tribute are two examples of floor fillers while the poor Inticers is still suffering from lack of interest apart from collectors.

Chalks- The Seven Souls was played twice in March 74 at the Casino only. It bombed out so I promptly sold it for £6 to one of the Coke bar hounds(Dewhirst, Withers,Shard) If it was you step forward. As far as I'm concerned, I discovered it at Ray Avery's Rare Records, Glendale, CA that same month.

Ha! IPhone 5 predictive text eh! Thank heavens the F wasn't included instead. Heeeeee

There's plenty I haven't listed, but thanks for the Thelma reminder. Both sides superb. As I stated before, the Casino really had its own top notch discoveries in its first year. As a DJ though, it all got messy with the Javells etc suddenly exploding around our ears, while the Mecca ploughed their own furrow with Cochise, Bobby Franklin, RB Freeman etc. Either way, the likes of the Inticers, Internationl GTO's, Vernon Greene and others simply suffered 'bad timing'........

March 1974 was a critical turn musically for the Casino. Many of the really good soul records like Vernon Greene, Seven Souls, Ernie Marbray, Eugene Jefferson got canned pretty quickly due to appetite for The Javells, Gary Lewis, Keith etc that were reaking out at the same time.

Take Away The Pain Stain-,Patti Austin I'm Gonna Change- 4 Seasons World Without Sunshine- Sandra Philips Aint Nobody's Business - Ernie Marbray Shawn Robinson- My Dear Heart Carl Douglas- Serving A Sentence of Life Vernon Greene- Look At Me, Look At Me Seven Souls- I Still Love You Casualeers - Dance Dance Dance Jive Five- You're A Puzzle The Tomangoes- I Really Love You The Professionals- That's Why I Love You Lee Andrews- Nevertheless The Magnificents- My Heart Is Calling Chosen Few- Footsee R Dean Taylor- There's A Ghost In My House Debbie Dean- Why Am I Lovin You Linda Jones-,I Just Can't Live My Life Paul Anka-,I Cant Help Loving You Dean Courtney- I'll Always Need You Eddie Foster- I Never Knew Willie Hutch- The Duck Rubin - You've Been Away Samantha Jones- Ray of Sunshine Poppies- There's A Pain In My Heart Shane Martin- I Need You There's a few to get the thread going.......

It is doing.....The Parliaments-This Is My Rainy Day is a perfect example of an underground rarity that the Kings Hall Stoke said YES PLEASE! Well done Mick H and company.

Of course not....Ozz like the rest of us would not go near even OTIS REDDING singing a song called Northern Soul nevermind Judy Street Now stop mucking about yer wind up merchant

What I was trying to say is, venues such as Lifeline, 100 Club plough their own furrow and are not answering to anyone. They passionately promote new undiscovered and underplayed sides they believe the audience will like. Unlike the early to mid 70's whereby there was pretty much only one scene, some of the tracks these guys are playing filter into the larger arenas and become anthems. Perfect all round. A pat on the back for the DJ's who got em started but also one for the jocks who recognised the potential and ran with them hopefully turning em into real monsters.

H B Barnum. Producer of many classic Northern.

Mace-- Ha Ha! Who honestly outside of Butlins would hire Judy Street to sing a self penned song called Northern Soul? She was a perfect act for that venue to enjoy the anthem What and that's it. She clearly had an agenda and that's why she's been trying to work everywhere else since- except for us. She misjudged how far she could go and got it badly wrong. Only the technician knew she had two tracks on her cd. Both Richard and I were not impressed. Now with my defensive hat on, should we now talk about the acts I have found and promoted live in recent times. Alexander Patton, The Del Larks, Epitome of Sound, Barbara Lynn, William Bell, Spellbinders, Joanne Garrett, Freddie Hughes, Frank Wilson, The Poindexter Bros, The Tymes ........and not a song about Northern Soul in sight.

Probably at Blackpool Tower. She certainly wasn't booked to sing anything except 'What' just before the Dance Final. You can imagine the shock when she announced the performing of a new song titled 'Northern Soul' eeekkkk!

A surprise it didn't work back then. Off the back of Purple Haze or Keep On Keeping On perhaps?

Back on topic....... In 1967 at the back of Record Mirror, Rock & Roll collectors were already searching for a very rare 10" by Johnny Burnette, which contained ultimate dancers (Please Don't Leave, Train Kept A Rolling etc ). To this day, those tracks are still on DJ's playlists. Does it then come as any surprise that any chart wouldn't contain The Tomangoes, Salvadors or Checkerboard Squares? The scene has changed and more and more underplayed and/or failed first time rounders are infiltrating the standard week in week out DJ sets. That's a win win all round. Remember the dancer has the final say no matter how many times a DJ hammers a track. It's their call at the end of the day. The discoverers of newer popular singles such as Jonathan Capree take a bow. Masses have heard them at bigger venues and bought in. Larger venues need the Lifeline's, 100 Club's to be able to expose newer spins to ever growing NS audience. Remember the crowd swelling has come in the last 5 years, so we have thousands playing catch up. It's going to take a while for The Ravins and similar to cut through, so hang on in there. Be proud that YOU ARE AWARE of this fantastic treasure chest available to us, but at the same time realise only a few non traditional discoveries will cut through. With tons of R&B being collected, there isn't many that have busted out big time....but at least there's some(Willie John, JT Parker, Five Royales, Drifters etc). Same goes for Modern.....Hamilton Movement is now a solid gold hit on the Northern scene, much to bemused Modern crowd. The public make it that way not the promoters. As for Stanky Get Funky, I refer to a comment I made earlier in the thread. The 45 was in serious quantity at Selecta Disc, Nottingham in 72/73. In fact I remember Derek Allen(RIP) playing it at a Wednesday night disco in Heanor, Derbys with no interest from yours truly. If it were Cobblestone back then mate...it's Sounds of Lane(lol). Whoever revived it.....well done. Another interesting 45 for dancers to enjoy and dealers to make a buck on. There's one chart in my opinion.....the most popular tracks in general across the UK. The new sub-scenes that have been bubbling heavily over the last decade or so are absolutely vital though to fuelling Top DJ's with suggestions of what might work in a larger arena. Back in the day, the rotation of tracks was just as heavy as it is now. We were younger and never gave it a second thought...these days it's all scrutinised and debated heavily. If you are a social person and enjoy the complete evolvement of Northern.....the scene(s) have never been healthier. And the crowds prove it. PS It would be interesting to see a Top 20 'underground' plays over the last year, so we can see which ones break through to the Oldies brigade. To be continued......

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Don't be confused. Get out a bit more and see what the masses are dancing to. It's merely a reflection of 20 movers n shakers during the last year at popular nights up and down the country. Nothing cast in stone. We connected with more than 20 DJs plus we can see what's going on via requests etc. Mixcloud contains our History of Northern Soul series spread over more than 60 episodes. Thanks

Very true. The chart though is accurate enough to assemble 20 current 'happenings'. Soulutions will be probably deceased by Spring. Can't see Jonathan Capree lasting but then again...... A few commented on Salvation, hence I assume is the more easily available Robert Thomas. Hope that's the one everyone meant lol. To repeat, it's only a guide to a few songs the overall majority are talking about and have been in the past few months. If we remember 2013, Jeanette, You Should O Held On and Crying Over You were huge and still are, it's just the current 20 are being spoke of a bit more and deffo popular at key nights countrywide.

Even the regular oldies fans find that little ditty disturbing!

Not neccessarily. We cast out net far n wide. I don't think anyone can argue the 20 are current floor fillers. Name others that are on par with those in the popularity stakes?

Are there any songs that you believe are genuinely more popular than the 20 the mass public have suggested? Mark 'Wiganer 1' makes a good call on Billy Davis -Stanky, but what else.....or has the punter got it bob on?

If we think back though, haven't we always had some depressives in each era? Obviously newcomers are only just buying into certain songs.

How did it get started? Andy Jackson thrashed it on the Modern scene, but how did it suddenly cross over to Northern...anyone know?

It's the weirdest track ever to be popular on the scene isn't it? But I said that about Babe Ruth's Elusive nearly 4 decades ago!

Certainly a strange one TOAD. It goes right back to the Selecta Disc 3 for a quid bin in 1972! Guess it feels right today.