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Posts posted by Goldsoul
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But did SS steal them from the original finders and claim them as his own because he had the contacts?
No....of course not. I am talking about a great record finder and discoverer. If anyone as Chris L suggested had difficulty with him, I respect their take on him. But I didn't and as far as I know Ian D too.
This is is the guy that gave us The Duck/Love Runs Out, Double Cookin, I'll Always Need You, I Can't Help Lovin You, I'm Not Strong Enough, You Don't Love Me to name a few.
He didn't steal those and I can't understand where you are coming from.
A ridiculously talented fellow with character deficiencies.
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He did discover quite a few records over the next couple of years
Rick
I would think an understatement! He was by far, along with Ian Levine the chief discoverer of the scenes golden era playlist of 1974/75.
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Yep....how did you think I and similar Souls felt selling(in my case) SandI Sheldon Okeh Demo for £8, Tony Clarke Landslide White Chess DJ £20, Yvonne Baker £25, Professionals Groove City £25.How very shrewd
Happy times though.
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No Pete, that was his original he was selling for £7.00. As soon as the boot came out some of the DJs would flog their originals. At least that`s what I always thought, maybe Kev can clarify.
I think the boot was a quid or so.
Yep that was pretty much the norm. Record pressed, original worth a couple of quid more.
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WIGAN CASINO 31/3/74
If anyone wants to hear the tape I’ll upload it to Mixcloud
Two hours of tape from one night, please note that
DANA VALERY PLAYED FIVE TIMES
MYLESTONES PLAYED FOUR TIMES
And several played twice – as was the norm but Dana Valery five times…also it’s announced from the stage that there are copies of Dana Valery now available for sale for £7 – which was a fortune in 1974
RICHARD SEARLING
BARBARA & BRENDA – NEVER LOVE A ROBIN
ADVENTURERS – EASY BABY
GERALDINE HUNT – WINNER TAKES ALL
LEE ANDREWS – I’VE HAD IT
DANA VALERY – YOU DON’T KNOW WHERE YOUR INTEREST LIES
TOMANGOES – I REALLY LOVE YOU
UNKNOWN
THE FUZZ – I’M SO GLAD
TONY & TYRONE – PLEASE OPERATOR
EARL JACKSON – SOUL SATISFACTION
SHAWN ROBINSON – MY DEAR HEART
AL WILSON HELP ME INST
OUTSIDERS – LONELY MAN
RUSS WINSTANLEY
MYLESTONES – THE JOKER
VENTURES – HAWAII 5-0
TERRIBLE TOM – WE WERE MADE FOR EACH OTHER
LADA EDMUND JR – THE LA RUE
FURYS BAND – I’M SATISFIED WITH YOU INST
KEV ROBERTS (I THINK)
KEITH MINSHULL (I THINK)
FRED SMITH ORCHESTRA – SAME OLD THING INST
VELVET SATINS – NOTHING CAN COMPARE TO YOU
DEVONNES – I’M GONNA PICK UP MY TOYS
LEE ANDREWS – NEVER THE LESS
GWEN & RAY – BUILD YOUR HOUSE ON A STRONG FOUNDATION
UNKNOWN
SAXY RUSSELL – PYSCHEDELIC SOUL
FREDDIE CHAVEZ – THEY’LL NEVER KNOW WHY
SANDRA PHILLIPS – WORLD WITHOUT SUNSHINE
VELVETS – I’VE GOT TO FIND ME SOMEBODY
ROBERT KNIGHT – BRANDED
STANLEY MITCHELL – GET IT BABY
MIKE POST COALITION – AFTERNOON OF THE RHINO
JESSICA JAMES & THE OUTALWS – WE’LL BE MAKING OUT
GLORIA JONES – TAINTED LOVE
Pete- The Sandra Philips and Gwen and Rae were me as I had both as exclusives. It was my copy Soussan used to duplicate. No choice really as he gave me the Sandra Philips!
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mThe same Judith Durham played by Brian Matthews other week, even he said it wasn't NS and I couldn't for the life of me think why anyone would want to play it, it was fookin terrible.
Yep it's a bit twee to say the least. I mentioned it to her when she was a guest at Magic in the 90's. Now Georgy Girl....that's a different story. Awesome!
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Been talking to a mate recently about this cracker which im told was played at the casino early years.Who spun this one
Hardly ever played but I think a few of us tried it and failed. Probably went looking for Rod Shard to see if we could get rid!
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Wasn't Yvonne Baker originally a Mecca spin?
I don't think so. I remember when we were serviced the acetate from Soussan, it was another strong exclusive against the might of the Mecca.
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Yes,but Kev-he didn`t say Russ discovered them,just persisted with them.
I think he persisted with Cats Eyes, Hawaii 5-0, Joe 90 too
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Just listening to Richard Searling's Va Va's tribute on Sunday's Cellar Full of Soul. According to him, he managed to get hold of a copy of Lynne Randell to play at the last all ni
Not quite right there Scal.....Detroit Soul was sent to RW, Me and Richard on acetate. I may have been one of the first to find it on Music Town during a US trip in Feb 1975. Keanya Collins was a Mecca play before we had it at Wigan, discovered by IL. Billy Prophet was being played by Pep at the Whitchurch Civic...again before Wigan. The Four Perfections was sent by SS to all of us on the customary Allen Zentz acetates, before finally being uncovered on Party Time.
He did however run hard with Yvonne Baker, playing it off acetate and not the Parkway original as none of us knew the identity in those early days.
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I have a UK issue on Stateside. Rate it at £40. The demo I value at £100
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Looking for a UK Stateside Demo. Any out there for sale ?
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Kev i had a tape with you on it introducing the jewels as "The Rubies"also on it Tee Fletcher thank you baby(which i never recall hearing again back then) was the night of the first dancing competition,so would have been ´74
was actually going to disagree with Pete then scrolled down and realised the year that was being talked about,good job really because i would have made an arse of myself i actually never heard Alan Rhodes(to my knowledge ) dj at Wigan as i had moved on to better venues (not a slur on him i may add) many on the list had been played pre Wigan,
Steve
The Rubies eh.....I rarely covered up my finds back in the day.
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Correction on the Jay D Martin. I first played it the night I found the Jewels. Both purchased from Max Millward in late 1973. To my ears they were unknowns.
The Kid was a huge seller as a youth club song way before Wigan.
Lynn Randell started at the Mecca with Ian L.
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On a tangent; was Bobby Bennett of YRN fame the same one who hosted Junior Showtime on TV?
Yep....the very same.
Without the 'soul' influence on this particular programme, I endured The Overlanders and Black Lace
Fortunately I met a top guy Jeff Christie(Yellow River fame) who's from Leeds. He wrote The Patrick Bradley-Just One More Chance while recording it himself for his group at the time...Outer Limits.
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Stuart, same all dayer had my cassette confiscated and a recording done at the Mecca with all Levines new stuff on it was wiped off!
did you realise what that the reason for confiscating was officially? the Steam machine had the most modern and expensive light show in England at the time and supposedly were worried about rivals
bullshit ! i think it was levine worried about bootleggers
Steve
Major was a tricky character and would often create problems for promoter Chris Burton. We tend to overlook it due to ML's legendary status.
I was a resident every Sunday at the Heavy Steam Machine in 1974 along with Chris Williams. The venue was completely wrong for Northern due to the 'light show heavy' club feel plus..... a cinema above didn't help. Tony Clarke's Landslide upset quite a few trying to watch BENJI. We were safe though if The TOWERING INFERNO was shown
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Kiki is certainly well aware. Well from the early 90's when I was chatting to her at Midem. In fact I still have her email address and dropped Frank Wilson's details to her several years later.
I think I mentioned it was around £100 back then......she needs an update!
She also took part in a Bank Holiday Special I did for Magic in 1991 titled West Yorkshire Hitmakers. Bobby 'You're Ready Now' Bennett was also on that programme. Ha!
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Recorded about 2 years ago just before I left Smooth.
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Behind The Hits with Motown songwriter Pam Sawyer - Mixcloud https://www.mixcloud.com/goldsoul/behind-the-hits-with-motown-songwriter-pam-sawyer/
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I considered her a friend and she was one of my regular listeners to Signal 2(Staffs/Cheshire). Born Yvonne Burgess in Newcastle U Lyme she was a sparkling talent who knew first hand how to write hit songs.
As a Northern fan she particularly liked Queen of Fools - Barbara Mills! Those Pet Clark sides were outstanding RIP Yvonne.
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The record was covered by the Soulmasters aka Shakatak and released in 1980.
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What's Wrong With Me Baby- The Invitations £200 (Sold)
My Elusive Dreams- Moses and Joshua Dillard £50
Earthquake- Bobby Lynn. £50
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He did Kev. Jimmy doesn't get tne recognition he deserves although he never seemed to really pusg ir oromote himself.
He dated my sister hence he got in my good books.
Several months later I met Butch and he bought a lot of my unknowns in early 1982.
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There was a 10" April Blackwood acetate I had from Rob M he called Chris Bartley,"My heart still belongs to you". Presume that went from Jim to Rob with the others. Think I sold it to Alan Coney.
The 'My Heart Still Belongs To You' is also by Van McCoy. That came from me.
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Will The Real Simon Soussan Stand Up
in All About the SOUL
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Rick- Pretty accurate. A couple of useful snippets.
I started dealing with him in June 1973. My collection was good enough to get me a gig at the Casino largely due to the exclusives I had from him. He dropped me as his golden boy in favour of Russ around April 74. By that particular time he was cash flow rich and in a roll with Selecta Disc, RW and others.
The Footsee production is crass, but it is does show the guy's creativity though. Certainly if sales are anything to go by.
And my feelings towards it probably cost my relationship with him as I wouldn't bow to his wishes by playing that and his forthcoming productions.
A colourful and intelligent character who I still feel was good for the scene.
On that note.....hope you are well.
Ps Had a great discussion with someone recently on former Swan supreme Tony Mamarella. Fascinating.