Paul Shirley

people keep going on about how the scene keeps going and how its evolved ??? and how its constently changing er? i dont think so , the only thing that has changed is the music is now more divers and thats briliant and also the fact that there is more clubs around than ever before when will people stop making out that there is loads and loads of younger people keeping it going nice thought but far from the truth most of the people are stil 40 to 65 yes there are some new people around with little or no influence at all , the big change in music is the fact we now have more r&b and more diferent sorts of modern accepted or played at northern soul venues i am a big fan of this like so many others are i like what they are doing in the dda room at lowton especialy' i like what there playing at burnley as well, but that dont mean i dont like the old classics. you dont have to like or dislike one or the other what am trying to say is this scene is still mainly made up of the same people as its always been but it gets me down when people presume that we are all stuck in the past and that the people who are bringing the changes are younger , i sopose in my other posting i went ott' but what i was geting at was for me personly the term northern soul scene is or was very diferent from some peoples ideas. it started of as underground and strictly not comercial, people have tried to keep it that way for the last 30 40 years somthing most of us are proud of , i think it would be nice to keep the tradition and values thats what was the n soul scene , cd's dancing lesons and tv publicity was not in fact it is the complete oposit` so for me if all that changes its not the northern soul scene any more and starts to atract the dick heads and it wont be special any more some people are allready making it in to a joke as for the mods and scooter boys if yer know this scene they have allways been part of it from 1960's to the present day no change ther then

spot on mate !

what a load of b*l*cks if you start changing things its not the same f.. scene then is it ? whats got to change ?? northern soul music is exactly what it is ` if you got to change the music it aint northern soul any more is it ??? ? and if the kids dont like it` then there aint much you can say or do you ether like it or you dont , you dont go to a hard house rave and say numbers are droping mate may be a bit of northern would help , yeah the er? scene is healthy with nearly all 40 to 65 year olds mostly people that started it in the first place and i dont know any people that was as you say "introduced " to it i found it because i liked it ` i think you will find that most kids now a days dont!, simple as that, the truth is there may be a few that will carry it on i hope they do but i think it will die you can take a horse to water as they say , there is nothing any body can do , and as for musical taste or horizons mine as a lot of other peoples on here are extremely varied , are you sure your on the right forum mate ??? northern soul dancing lesons ..... i rest my case it seems to me your scene is a very diferant one to mine ,rip the northern soul scene oh! and just for the record we dont all turn up in fancy dress costumes i have nothing against them but i realy think they have done more damage to this scene than any one, at best i find them funny at worst embaessing, how are you going to attract young folk to our do's when you see old men&women loking like clowns

the old scene didant want shitt on tv as thats what made it in to a piss take !! and spoild it and you endid up with clubs full of twa..s , people did there best to keep it away from the media thats part of the underground scene that it was, and made it so very special you do not need to f,,,, advertise it you heard about it in many diferent ways , if kidds these days have to be f,,,, draged in to it and its got to be dressed up to apeal to them then f,,, me whats it all come to ??? northern soul dancing lesons you got to be kiding me !!!! oh the scene will die !!!! may be thats not a bad thing because the way some tw..s , on here are talking i wouldent want to be apart of the new scene , what its become and what it started out as are two very diferent things the one thing that all the old school was afraid of was publicity we didant need it back then you got in to it vier freinds and the music you liked it or you didant' so now the very thing that this scene has allways been proud not to be "commercial " is the way forward to atract er? younger people what a joke, r i p northern soul scene buy some cd's and take dancing lesons is this what its come to ??

me and many other wiganers had passes as cleaners and coke lads we used to carry crates of coke around one barr to another before the nighter started , we used to sit in mr mms and watch the cabaret in there before we started, ahh good old days eh?

not far wrong and also mike walker is alive and well he lives in marsh green now says he had to move on ,

am now sorted thanks !!!!!!

well the 12" and the 7" are curantly on ebay now or was last time i looked yesterday but i got sorted today but thanks for the reply cheers regards paul

hi pat the corect spelling is billy davis -stanky get funky , i got it not to long ago what do you think its worth ???

i like many other people started going in74 but stoped in 76 77 why? because it became comercial a victim of its own sucses ,at the begining it was a top venue for soul music and people that was already on the scene also a lot of people went to see what it was all about and got in to it nothing wrong with that` but then it also started to atract non soulies it started to become a trendy place to go it became comerciel the music went down hill , i started to notice dick heads who never heard a soul record in there lives and the theving was geting worse am sorry to have to say it but for me the proper soulies stoped going a long time before it closed , but thats my own personel opinion yes it became crapp but it looks to me there aint never going to be another place that can come close , its very simple there was so many of us in those days and we was all young and most of the scene now is stil mostly made up of us lot , there simply isant the amount of young people on this scene to ever come clost to re creating that terific atmosphere we had back then , i wish people would stop using this term "move on" i know loads of other people my age and over who was around years ago and are well up to date i like underplayed stuff r&b crosover modern and more select nighters that cater for ether one but i also go back to other clubs that are basicly full of people i knew from mr ms years ago that are happy enjoying the music from back then they are happy er? not moving on its what they want to hear so whats wrong with that ? i never ever go on about the casino to younger people that never got to go because they dont want to here it do they ? but its nice now and again when asked to tel um , am a wigan lad and am proud of the casino and also most of the people that went will tel you the same thing nothing will ever come close to it and its fantastic to go to any venue in the uk and nine time out of ten you can bet there will be some bugger there who you know , ps before any body says it yer i know i canot spell

am after it look on the bright side - top tune like feeding strawberys to swines lol

yes i can agree with that also remember fat kenny spence who brian put me in mind ` kenny died a long long time ago he was a wigan lad who was also extremley likeable ste whittle was telling me about the time the curtain went back on the big stage at the casino and there was kenny in a very comprising position with a girl over the grand piano , wasant there that night, the one night i dont go and i miss all this , was wandering if any body rimembers that ????

joyce taylor mean mis treater ?? this is it?? esther williams you got to let me show you ??? some of these i already tracked down but if the price is right ?? also.... ring leaders baby what has hapand , am now sorted thank you apart from the joyce taylor thanks

what do yer do if yer want to see them dig um up ?? the other guy was around in the 60s and so was i mate , i seen james brown in 74 he was never out of the charts back then suppose he aint er? real soul in your book? soul music covers hell of a lot of music a lot of it charted as it dose now, tons of it didant but people started to like it twenty years later, your mising the point mate, i also seen jackie wilson j walker edwin star and about twenty others who all charted back then so what are they then pop singers or soul singers ? give me a brake i would bet you a box of records that if that duffy track had been made back in 1975 ther is a good chance it would be being played at more well known venues now , all i got to say is( spencer davis) do i need to say more ,ther is tons of music played at northern soul venues that aint but fits in

and just for the record am not that keen on it ` lol

hi thanks but strangly some other bugger must have seen it ` its gone , thanks aniway regards paul

thanks cheers and all the rest

any body got love look in her eyes ? idiot me could have had it a month ago for just over 130 ah well if only i knew then what i know now as they say

only came across this tune on here lastnight but canot find any information , i want it - neal brown if by chance , think thats what it is

hi yeah tonys do is a bit diferant from the barons as that was a bit to extreme for us lot at times but dave is on here again soon not sure of a date for you but if i find out i will put it on here regards paul

yeah i thort the same thing

true soulies ? "dont want them around " ?

i understand yer mate ,dont take it to heart !!

BEEN GOING FOR PAST 9YEARS MATE AND HAVE NOTHING BUT PRAISE , AND YOUR TAKE ON THE MUSIC AND DJ.S IS ONE OF THE REASONS I GO , WHEN AM I ON ?? LOL NAH ITS THE BEST PLACE FOR MILES