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Should I?

Rich...that is funny mate innit?

Having been relayed a 'ickle story by one of my long-standing compadres the other day relating to acertain (sic - Dave) board member, mentioning no names 'BITCHDJ', did I type that out loud? At what point does the singularly fact that a person has, lets say, minimal posts on this board say about their knowledge/standing/ etc etc....Yul. How many posts has Dickie Searling posted...I'd say not many ay? So isn't Our Dick worthy of an internal investigation also? What say you? (Don't bite Bitch)

True. But what does 'agreat' mean? You do know that I aim to wind the feck out of you simply for the fact that you have needlessly involved yo.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!! How many records have you got mate?

To quote 'The Warriors' Dave... ...'Don't f*** with the Imbers'.

Imber...bob on mate. Spare the rod.....hehe

Just look at the album sleeve and tell me that America didn't make your white ass want to be there when Dooley sang his heart out!? It did me.

I go for the Brian Rae storage method whereby I just throw them around whichever space I happen to be at the time - car, bedroom, under a table, Leicester...wherever.

That's actually me Mam fella...so you're saying me Ma looks like Donald Pleasance?

Youtube them

Whenever I see your avatar Imber I always hear the theme tune from 'The Persuaders'.

By the way I didn't look 'here/there' as I don't need to be told - unlike yourself son as it appears you don't have had enough groundwork to make an educated opinion. Did that hurt?

That response tells me a lot about yourself mate. But I still love you...but that's just me it seems.

By the way - are you all mad? Yes styrene is more brittle than vinyl but do you honestly believe that the HISS at the start of any given record came about because of someone 'rocking the needle back and forth'? Jesus! I can't believe I'm biting here ha ha.

O-H M-Y G-O-D! The 'Eliptical styli' line is a killer.

This statement explains a lot to me as I fecking loved it when The Seeds got played...so powerful and such a Wigan moment to me, and the whole of Fucking Wigan as it happens - Massive dancefloor reaction. No offence, it's all subjective an d all that. But for me you need to have a good long look at yourself mate, that is if one (one?) record that you deemed unworthy to be played to you could spoil your whole night. Tetchy!! If I'm honest, I see that comment of yours as simply a cry from the heart from yourself that would hopefully be backed up by similar dobbers as yourself, for yourself; you know, those of you that still haven't (Awwww!) grasped music as an en[tit ]y to be utilised for yourself alone. YOURSELF, YOURSELF, YOURSELF..... Get it? What else got played on the nights that The Seeds got played? Feck me, how many have you got to spout from? But you chose to look for favour by picking out The...whatever!!

Good shout Jocko. But how much longer can the the 60's dancefloor hide behind their obvious musical progression? It's took a while and I swear I am not sat here knocking it, it's positive move for them. Good on you lads.

I tried to follow this thread to the end but loss interest a bit. I'll give you my take on it anyhow. They don't - and never will. To ask the question means you either don't understand and are looking for direction or you do understand and are looking for an insight. I'm going for the latter. You have either the ability to love 60's music - or 60's music and 70's/80's/da di da music. Now if you love only 60's stuff, I have no doubt that you are very intelligent and have a great life just loving that....but....stop thinking about your car, and your 52" Bravia and your recently restored Scooter (that you didn't have in 1980) and you too could have a much more fun-filled, and less bitter, life. You don't even have to come on forums like this to pass on your sh*tty-bitterness, you could just sit at home and bang you Willi J & Co mp3 on and enjoy it. You see the secret is simply to do it for yourself. Nobody else matters. And if you think they do - you've missed the point. Easy.

...and Phyllis Hyman's 'You Know How To Love Me' was simply one of Wigans biggest moments for me. A genius Searling moment. Now I don't know if you know but Phyllis appeared in Playboy magazine in 1980 (biggest selling PB in years as it happens), as she was a true beauty but I don't know if you know how she ultimatley exited this world....I hate to be negative but this has always stuck with me as I loved the woman's music...check it out.... a sad loss to our world and an for nothing. Go to your normal Northern nights and see lukewarm/sparse floors. Then play 'YKHTLM' and see the girls flush the floor with true Soul feeling. Phyllis Hyman's track is as stitched in a Northern Soul track as any sixties record you could mention.

Does no one understand that without 'yesterdays Northern Scene plays', todays would not have been possible? It is 'stab in your eye' simple. To actually become good at something you have to make mistakes. Now, I use the word 'mistake' loosely. Hindsight is something that is utilised and easily preyed upon. To the newbies: "Your forebears wrote the book, laid the (Khan) law down, danced for you and made 'your' hindsitical mistakes for you." Without the aforementioned (in your minds) 'mistakes', you'd have feck all. Show a tad of the adult in you and have a little respect for something that, if you were there, you obviously didn't understand and if you weren't there, you can't (but should) understand. Progression is borne of the dancefloor - dancers, the scene (I'm sick of pointing this out), NS at the time tells it's own story - don't make the mistake of reading the last paragraph and thinking you know the whole story....you weren't there to help write it. All the high-lighted tracks above, were not worthy of ridicule, the jocks felt them worthy of play - the dancefloor asked for and accepted them, Northern Soul was delivered, in todays form, to your doorstep. Nuff said.

M's track for me Crystal Grass - Crystal World.....the Sooty and Sweep track....more Sweep - if you know, you know!

Now Malc, I love you; Mark - I've met you; and Monster..we don't know each other but: As far as I am concerned this urban 'cue-burn' myth phallacy simply cannot have come about from the age-old sticking yer needle on and rocking it back and forth on the first beat...think about it!? The only reason you'll get a 'HISS', for however long the 'HISS' is, can surely only be due to the fact that at the 'HISS' point there was too much pressure on the stylus - that much pressure that the vinyl/styrene could not cope with it and gave in. Now 'winding back' a track is virtually the same as letting a stylus play the way it is designed....now, don't give me the old line that vinyl is pressed to play a certain way, right to left as it were, and playing against the grain could cause undue stress, as that explanation is bobbins. 'Cue-burn' is caused by heavy handedness alone - being a klutz when placing the stylus onto your record or wacking a track off, with yer big Yorkshire fingers, half way through it causes 'cue-burn' and nothing more. I've wound records of mine back for fecking years and have never acquired the "record collectors way out of Klutzism" - that is... 'cue-burn' on any of 'em - so can we safely pack this urban myth Room 101 please? Get your SOS pressing of Judy Street out and try it.

Malc! Don't be so random at this time of the morning, I'm struggling as it is mate.

A very anal, yet understandable, thread borne from the need to be accepted. Basically yet another stab by someone I would understand has never put his balls on the line to step up to the plate and be a 'DJ'!? A negative post at heart but I understand it's root to an extent....mate....we can all look back over 30 years of listening and pick on the low points - the low points (not by my standards, by yours), made by a number of DJ's over a heavy number of years. Now I'm not having a pop, I actually think it isn't a bad thread, but focus on the plusses mate. Is 'plusses' a word?

Exactly how is 'cue-burn' (??) believed to come about? I see some odd things spoken about rewinding a track being the cause. Anyone enlighten me? I know how I see it coming about but how does the boards general conscencus explain it?