Barry

Thanks for the pm with Phils number - I think I woke him up in Spain.

Easy answer Baz - you never came (due to work no doubt) to 'On Hubert Street!' did you - we were all there, educated and proud. Even Brian (Rae) came fairly regularly mate, where were you? Some great responses there Bazza and thank you for them. I am sometimes mistaken for taking the p*ss, an incorrect view in reality, I try to keep it real that's all. I don't think you've sussed me Bazza, re my posts, I only have a certain amount of time that I can give to the SS forum - enjoy it while you can. Love ya my mentor.

I think you'll know that Hott Waxx had a part in that story too Paul, before Kev and Terry fell out that is. On a lighter note we took Johhny and Lamaar on a barge down Wigan Pier one evening, I can't remember why now, we were trying to get Pete to showcase 'Come To Me' on a 'Hitman & Her' (weird, but publicity is publicity innit?) at the time. Lamaar (in his charming NY pimp-mode), loved it - Johnny on the other hand f*cking hated it.

That's that sorted then. Next!

Everything else in your post is your opinion and that's that really but is there any need for the above comment? So by your view, if you pop round another Soulies house for a brew and they stick your brew on a Mel Britt coaster then they obviously appreciate soul music less than yourself?

My point exactly Malcolm. Yesterday we had 'slightly salted' Anchor and today we have 'Utterly Butterly'. At the end of the day, it all makes yer bread moist dunnit?

Bazza, you know that you had no need to state the above, of course there's no hard and fast rule - but - how do I, the uninitiated, gleen from the board what is being currently played on the scene under the guise of 'Modern'? As it happens, as I would have expected, you alone have answered my question by giving me titles - a correct and singular response to my question. (At this point I must bring to the attention of the board that Bazza was my mentor, he was the dj when I wore bobble hats to his Disco in 1977!) Nice to see Marc Evans and Jazmina etc, alongside the other titles...but I do find that sound kind of formulaic, and a tad repetetive these days. No denying the pleasure I get from these tracks, they are quality...but you know!? Have Modern Rooms suffered due to 'the core' graduating to the general ('more exciting') House scene (all the lads that I know from the Nighter scene that I grew up on have), also is trad MS still played over more 'Housey' new releases these days? I'm not saying that the scene is playing catch up - but I think that to a degree certain people playing records to that crowd at all nighter level maybe!? I, in my exile, cannot believe that anyone could fail to keep a dancefloor happy with the gammut of fantastic 'MODERN' (I'll not explain it again) records that are out there. Yourself excepted, you pioneer you!! Has Modern Soul and it's subsequent dancefloor space suffered at the hands of House Music and a changing, younger crowd, who (it strikes me anyhow), at all nighter level, are more interested in a retro sound? Ps Is the reason why 'Modern' was called 'Modern' too hard for people to grasp - really?

Christ! It takes some when Rog has to answer a very f*cking obvious question for me. Why would 4BZ be termed a 'Modern' sound?

Is this the first time in NS history that the 'Nighter' scene hasn't jumped on the opportunity to re-brand itself, or certain sounds played within it at least? Is the reason that it hasn't (maybe), because it cannot? The 'rare soul' comment I responded to above holds some weight with me; as regards todays scene that is. Would the loss of the term 'Northern Soul' lessen the current scene's impact to the outside world? After all, history is bunk; true? Surely ridding the world of the term 'Northern Soul' is unthinkable to some degree!? Or is it?

Good point - although it seems to me that a lot of people are happy saying that they are part of the 'Northern Soul' scene to 'excluded others' - as the normal world can associate with the term. Does the term 'Rare Soul Scene' have the same appeal when it comes to bragging rights?

So we should all call tambourines summat else then? I believe they were named so in another time sphere - but they are still called tambourines!!?? Of course Four Below Zero is a 70's production - as it was produced in the 70's, well-spotted, I'm sure some people missed that.

A term quoted at a particular time on the scene that encapsulated and deliniated certain records. Can we now please put to bed these ridiculous and pointless personal excursions re the term 'Modern Soul - Ford Cortina's were so named in the 70's, and strangely are still named so....that statement makes sense to me, so I'll leave it right there.

You know what I despair sometimes.

I don't really understand that statement - it's an open forum, where views are laid down, no wrongs really. And as for the 'self promotion' line....like it would make any odds on here. Ian, I think you are a belting bloke - fancy a pint?

...and stop forcing your 'font' on me.

The more I read it.... So you would find it okay for the Del Larks to play to a NS audience at a mainly money making international excursion for Soulies that could afford it? As opposed to Ian giving old men and women some respect and money back by involving them with his ideals. It should all be about respect, which I feel his artists have been given. Cash in pocket for doing something that they love doing (even if it did not particularly fall into your given ideal), a tad of hope and continued involvement when others had given up on them. Are my views idealistic? Maybe...but it reads right, for those forgotten artists, to me.

May I add that simply playing down your own understanding of music and it's intricacies, which I guess makes you a 'purist' (you have now inadvertantly involved yourself - you've pigeon holed yourself) does not make your point any more valid. It's all about the music is it? Look deeper - you need to to - as things aren't that simple.

That is such a great piece of message board nonsense - you may one day, hopefully, realise it too. You have just managed to force your view down his neck as much as you say he has, his. Quo vadis.

Don't you just love insights like this!? And by the way.... OUCH!! That opening line still does the trick. (Please resist the urge to drag those [funny] Carstairs piccies being destroyed under a Hovver etc out son!)

I guess I should have taken more time with my query but I do sometimes get some stick about the length of my posts. Sometimes 'weak' works, yes, what I suppose I was trying to get across is that some of the 'newly played' stuff I hear, that goes for money, seems lazy in approach, almost one-take stuff (which again, on occassion works). There is always material overlooked that will eventually come to the fore but does the need for dj's to break a new track maybe lead to pleasant and ultimately 'acceptable' - but maybe sub standard (whatever that is?) - dancefloor product getting air and subsequent message board time? I know that reads like a crock - do your best.

Some favourable points there James (Sharon Jones and your views on a possible s/t)). Nice, untarnished, post.

A badly thought out slur love! (Just like my use of the word 'love', love!)

Good response mate.

Michael!!! Ha ha!! I'm not highly intellectual, you have simply just given me your view on how you regard me - thanks anyhow. Have a little respect mate, you should know me better - all I do here is pose questions, all answers are to be read and taken for what they are. Love you - love to Mum and Big Dave anyhow. x

Thanks for clearing that barn-storming revelation up.