SOULCENTRAL

HEY AZZA, JUST SHOWED YOUR MUM YOUR POST AND SHE IS NOT AMUSED!!!! HOWEVER IT SEEMS YOUR EDUCATION OF ALL THINGS SOULFULL HAS OBVIOUSLY BEEN FULL AND COMPLETE EVEN DOWN TO THE FOOTWEAR ISSUE. ALWAYS BEEN BROUGES,LOAFERS AND PLAIN LEATHER SHOES WITH ROUNDED TOE CAP FOR ME IN THE DAYS OF THE TORCH AND ONWARDS. NITER BAG ALWAYS HAD THE OBLIGATORY SPARE T-SHIRTS,VESTS,TOWEL,TROUSERS AND PERSONAL HYGENE REQUIREMENTS. DONT KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THE BADGE THING FOR KEEPING YOUR SPARE CHANGE IN!. BY THE WAY SINCE WHEN COULD YOU AFFORD A PAIR OF LOAKES?. ROY(AKA DAD)

HI ROB, Glad i was able to tickle your ear drums enough to get you hooked on the greatest music there has ever been. ROY

I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD BITE!!!!!! ROY

Got to agree there PD. Hope thats not you in the picture, scary or what!!!!! ROY

Don't really do exact when talking about RHYTHM & BLUES but thanks for correcting my incorrect grammer. ROY

Well Chalky i think you have hit the nail squarley on the head with your reply. Back in the days of the Torch,Mecca,catacombs,Casino you actually did get very mixed spots from all the dj's playing in demanders and some obscure stuff as well. The reason for this is that almost everything that was being played at the time was relativly new to all in attendance, both soul fans dj's and record collectors alike. The soul scene and its rapidly expanding portfolio of infectious "northern" dance music had no history for comparison as to wether it was new or an oldie!!. Therefore you did get the obligatrory 5+ records that were not the norm and then some. There have been many exceellent posts on this thread with many touching on the "better known" tunes against the "lesser known" tunes and suggestions on what works and what does not. I believe there now exists clear sections within the soul fraternity consisting of The same old,same old crowd-The norther soul followers and The rare/crossover/70's group. It would be almost an impossibility these days to get tunes from the last of these groups played at the previous two which is as you say Chalky is sad. What seems to work at many venues these days is the two/three room option which gives everbody the oppertunity to sample all generes of soul music so allowing everyone in attendance to listen and dance to whatever they please. Prestatyn,Brid Weekender are for me the leaders here and others like Bury,Barnsley Metrodome to mention a few will bring on the youth and convert some of the die hard oldies fans to a different outlook on what is soul music. I myself was very much from the school of oldies and nothing else until about five years back when firstly events like Soul in the Sun started changing my perspective and oulook about soul music. Followed by the weekenders listed above along with Red Bar,Empress,Metrodome and many others i now frequent for a taste of something different. The only music i dont take to is R & B as it is exactly what it says on the tin, rythm and Blues. Now reaching for my tin hat and bullet proof vest while avoiding the shots from the r&b fans out there. ROY

HI CHALKY. Your last sentance of the above qoute sums up what should be the last word regarding this thread. it is simple and to the point. Well said. Look forward to meeting you at the end of the month at Driving Beat in Leeds

Well chalky after reading many of your reposts on this and other threads, i feel that the above quote is well wide of the mark. I think you may be basing your opinion on one particular young dj in yorkshire,who does not rock everyones boat!. There are many young dj's around who do have a different outlook on the soul scene and therefore,musically, offer a point of difference. As for many young ones being an image of their parents taste i can assure you that in my experience that is not the case. My own sibling has a very different outlook and taste to myself as to what he regards as great soul music and plays OVO at his venue and while guesting elsewhere. Sure there are records that we both agree are superb but it is only a few. He frequents many venues that play a wide spectrum of music and also does the occasional nighter, taking in the music and talking records to the people he meets. In short he is serving the apprenticeship we all did when we were younger. I agree with you on the point regarding the older dj's and many of the problems lie with promoters who are unwilling to broaden their own horizons using dj's who offer different playlists. The main problem i feel is they do play safe by sticking by the tried and tested route of using older dj's playing safe playlists with no thought to giving the young talent around today a chance( mr 100 club being the exception). ROY

Well i am not one for arguing against other peoples valuation of items old or new. However i wil tell you what is fact. I work in the fashion clothing trade and actually had one of these coats in my leather range some three years ago. The retail price for this item would have been £275 at that time. The actual hide is sheep nappa and the coat is a ladies size 12. I still have the sample at home and if any lady is interested it is for sale at £90-probably about circa 1980s prices!. ROY

Mike, sorry about not providing an intro as i did not realize this was a requisite when contributing to the forum. One will follow shortly. As for "calling other members" this i would not do on a personal level. The point of my post was that no individual has the right to determine what is credible or not in regards to something that they do not own and are only a very small part of ie the northern/soul scene. People are entitled to their own opinions on various subjects but please keep them as such and do not give the impression that you speak for the masses. As for removing posts, i would suggest that you take a more indepth look at some of the posts on the forum regarding this subject as they are clearly libelous in the form of directing personal insults at the people who appeared on the show. Regarding Mickeys recent post today i can only say this was superb in its content,written with great feeling and tempered emotion. We could do with many more like this

Well kev it seems like you and Little Miss Soul have come out tops as regards the most objective and least embarrased opinions given on this subject this evening. In defense of the people who appeared on they show, they were there by invitation and not purley "to get their mugs on tv". As for the dancers attire they were directed to the wardrobe department to dress suitably for the show. If you had seen any of these young people at the various soul nites/all nighters then you would realize this is not their regular dress. WHERE THE SHOW DID FAIL was to highlight and be a little bit more in depth regarding the fact that many young people are coming into the scene at present as a result of their parents and older peers love of the music and the scene in years gone by. This younger generation will develop their own ideals and perception of the music,the dancing and the venues long after we older soulies are pushing up worms!! In the meantime we still have the credibility police force of Steve-m, Eggman, Paul-s, Stevie and their erstwhile superintendant - Malc Burton to tell us what the scene should be like, how we should dance and dress!!!!!!!. Long live objectivity.