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Steve Thought that would be the case,in one of my early posts I said there wasn't a right or wrong but I was just interested how people choose when a tune becomes an oldie.I've heard a few things that I personally don't consider when deciding for myself Cheers Martyn

That's the thing I'm trying to find out............when does a newie stop been a newie & become an oldie? The when you heard it is a distraction to what I've been trying find out from people. Cheers Martyn

But you still haven't answered the question I was trying to get at of "when" does a tune become an oldie?At what point along the timeline does it become an oldie from a newie? Cheers Martyn

Adam Complicated!!..........my head hurts The personal timeline is probably one for another thread & not quite what I was trying to get at but got distracted? Cheers Martyn

Chalky I agree as I'm in the timeline gang & that's how I qualify in my head a tune.But surely you can't hear something new (to you) & just say it's an oldie? I suppose the "when you hear something" disagreement is a slight distraction from the "Oldie" term I was trying to get clarified?What I was trying to find out is when people think it becomes an oldie from been a "newie"?? Cheers Martyn

Come along Kevin put your zimmer frame down & join in properly Cheers Martyn

Kev You sound surprised.......Lynn asked me to post it really,you know she's the one who knows about music in our house In my mind it's always been about the timeline of a tune & thought the discussion would have been along those lines but it's evident others view what makes an oldie differently which has surprised me? Cheers Martyn

Oldie is an oldie is a bit simplistic isn't it,it's like saying a dog is a dog but that's not right is it?A dog is a Rottweiler or a Chihuahua? So you're saying it's the timeline of the tune that makes it an oldie & I'm probably in that gang. But if you are hearing tunes that are new to you how do you know where they belong on that timeline,so they can't be an oldie to you because the timeline starts the day you hear it? Cheers Martyn

I think that is going to be more or less what we end up with after we've gone on about for 5 pages Cheers Martyn

Yep defiantly Cheers Martyn

Chalky Some of them would have taken you back to your youff,not played or heard Gordon Keith & Joyce Kennedy out for what seems like ever & they sounded brill. Cheers Martyn

Steve So my cunning plan of starting this thread up & getting my playlist noticed has foiled me breaking into the oldies scene as they won't know my oldies Seriously though by just the few reply's already I'm starting to think the term "Oldies" means different thing to different people.I thought it was going turn into a debate of how long 2,3,5 or 10 years before it becomes an oldie but it looks like it's about far more then just the year??? Cheers Martyn

Thanks..........I'll close the thread I agree with part of what you're saying about once they start the downward slope they are on there way to becoming oldies.What about those tunes that have been around for ages without ever getting any regular plays & then burst into life,take Dottie & Millie & C L Blast massive now but were bit players of the nighter scene in the 90t's..........they are oldies to me but to most hearing them recently they are new sounds?God I'm confusing myself now (yes I know it's not hard) Cheers Martyn

Essential Soul 11 til 12 In no particular order............ Sharon Scott-Could It Be You RCA The Q-That's The Way Hound Carole Waller-This Love Of Mind USA Robert Thomas-Salvation Charay Candy & The Kisses-Out On The Streets Again Scepter The Wooden Nickles-Nobody But You Omen Gladys Knight-No One Could Love You More TMG Lew Kirton-Heaven In The Afternoon Alston The Philharmonics-I Need,I Need Your Love Soulin' The Montclairs-Hung Up On Your Love Paula Emanuel Laskey-I'm A Peace Loving Man Thelma Jack Montgomery-Do You Believe Scepter Mike Vickers-On The Brink UK Columbia Gordon Keith-Look Ahead Calumet Bunny Sigler-For Cryin' Out Loud Decca Ketty Lester-Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid RCA LaVern Baker-Wrapped,Tied & Tangled Brunswick The Paramount Four-You Don't Know Southern City Joyce Kennedy-I'm A Good Girl Blue Rock The Satisfactions-Take It Or Leave It Smash Anthony & The Aqua Lads-I Remember Goldbee The Astors-In The Twilight Zone Stax Gwen Davis-My Man Don't Think I Know SS7 Walter Jackson-It's An Uphill Climb To The Bottom OKeh Cheers Martyn

Steve I disagree(surprise,surprise ).If an undiscovered tune is played but it was made if 1966 that's not an oldie it's a new tune to the scene? Cheers Martyn

Hi Rick I agree all oldies to me & thought I'd got it about right with the lesser played ones with the more well known?The one I could see some maybe questioning is The Philharmonics?But a massive nighter tune back in the day & that's when we start to get to your point of peoples knowledge,because it's not filtered down to masses yet so they would not class it as oldie?I heard loads of stuff played last night that are oldies but were new to me.........so what do I class them as...........a new oldies Take care. Cheers Martyn

Stu I agree there's isn't a right or wrong but hopefully we can find some common ground...........for once My personal view is I gauge a tune becomes an oldie by time from when it was first played on a regular basis,so I think tunes that were played in the 90t's early 00 are becoming oldies? Patrinell Staten was massive in the 90t's & I think it's an oldie now??? Cheers Martyn I'll add my playlist to my original post as I think that will give people a starting point to discuss? Cheers Martyn

First I'll get my apologies in?..........Mike feel free to move this if I'm in the wrong forum?Sorry if this has been done before but could find anything? This is a genuine question,not trying to cause some oldies,newies war Djing last night at an oldies night,it was advertised along the lines of digging deep & finding a few forgotten things along side some of the better known tunes? So part way through my set I got the comment from someone of........"These Aren't Oldies".........it was a bit tongue cheek as I know the girl making the comment but I think there was a bit of truth for her behind the smile? In no particular order............ Sharon Scott-Could It Be You RCA The Q-That's The Way Hound Carole Waller-This Love Of Mind USA Robert Thomas-Salvation Charay Candy & The Kisses-Out On The Streets Again Scepter The Wooden Nickles-Nobody But You Omen Gladys Knight-No One Could Love You More TMG Lew Kirton-Heaven In The Afternoon Alston The Philharmonics-I Need,I Need Your Love Soulin' The Montclairs-Hung Up On Your Love Paula Emanuel Laskey-I'm A Peace Loving Man Thelma Jack Montgomery-Do You Believe Scepter Mike Vickers-On The Brink UK Columbia Gordon Keith-Look Ahead Calumet Bunny Sigler-For Cryin' Out Loud Decca Ketty Lester-Some Things Are Better Left Unsaid RCA LaVern Baker-Wrapped,Tied & Tangled Brunswick The Paramount Four-You Don't Know Southern City Joyce Kennedy-I'm A Good Girl Blue Rock The Satisfactions-Take It Or Leave It Smash Anthony & The Aqua Lads-I Remember Goldbee The Astors-In The Twilight Zone Stax Gwen Davis-My Man Don't Think I Know SS7 Walter Jackson-It's An Uphill Climb To The Bottom OKeh So my question is "WHEN" does a record become an oldie,what's the criteria,is there any hard & fast rules?? I hear tunes played at (upfront)nighters that are Wheel oldies but have stood the test of time & are still accepted with open arms.On the flip side of that you get new releases becoming biggies on the oldies scene? Cheers Martyn

I remember knocking one of these back because the kid wanted £30 for it & I'd just missed out on one on Roger Banks list for £20 & thought he wanted too much for it...........still a two figure record. Cheers Martyn

As a printer this sounds more likely,easy just to shove some black ink in the duct & carry the run on. Cheers Martyn

Thanks boys some great info. Sounds like it's had plays from time to time which I thought but without ever really taking off to reach the monster status it deserves,which is a crime when you hear some of the dross that has become monster sounds............better not go down that road or I could be here awhile Cheers Martyn

Kev Other side of Soul Clinic has been played..........."So Sharp"..........might be a bit of a stomper for you though Cheers Martyn

Rob Took me awhile to track one down,not one you see for sale that often?..........good hunting Cheers Martyn

It's Wilton for me when it first came to my notice but other nighters as well after that,can't say I remember it from Middleton but that means nothing Cheers Martyn

Thanks Dazz I'll ask Dave next time I see him. Cheers Martyn