Robbk

Gelukkig Nieuwjaar allemaal!!! Beste wensen!

1974 recorded in Philly. NOT The stylistics, nor The Delfonics. I don't know almost anything about The '70s, so I can't help here. I'd bet this is NOT a "Sound Of Philadelphia" group. It must be a fairly obscure Philly group on a stray national semi-major label (sort of like The Stylistics were on AVCO).

You could make a digital file of it and place it somewhere on The Internet, and then use the link tool feature on this website's Reply menu. But maybe you could also use the "My Media" tool on that menu to pop it in from your own computer?

I've heard it now. It's a LOT better than the released version. It's a somewhat slower vocal, with a similar beat to the released version. Nothing like Doo Wop, or The Dell-Vikings' vocal (only in that it's a bit slower than Gloria's released version. I also heard an alternate version of "Heartbeat". It was nowhere near as good as the released version.

I had the pleasure of knowing Gloria Jones, and we at Airwave records were considering using some of the songs she had written, for recording. But, unfortunately, I never met the late Barbara Wilson. She died, tragically, back in the late '60s. She was a very good singer, and probably was just about to have a break out in her career, when she died. Her Colpix cuts were quite good.

Frank Wilson's wife, who also sang the demo for "Every Little Bit Hurts" (both Ed Cobb productions). She was a very good singer. So, I'd still very much like to hear it, especially as I like Doo Wop style very much (grew up with it).

It would be difficult for me to choose a "Top 500", let alone narrow down to a paltry 5. There were so many great and perfect songs done right. My list would change daily, with my mood. Today, I might choose: 1 Up On The Roof - Drifters 2 My Girl - Temptations 3 Lucky To Be Loved By You - Emanuel Lasky 4 I'll Come Running - Carolyn Crawford 5 Found True Love - Billy Butler & 4 Enchanters

I'd like very much to hear that, too.

Nobody knows a song called with a male lead called "One More Chance" that uses that background?

Was the background instrumental from Curtis Mayfield's "Christmas Time" (by Jan Bradley) used in a recording of a song titled "One More Chance" by a male single artist or male group? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=w5rQH2vfggc

What separates the great from the good songs is the ability to love it just as much the millionth time heard as the first. In any case the version posted on You-tube and in most posts on fora ids the weaker of the 2 I've heard, and the version I only heard years later, and the version that we did not have sitting in our office for 7 years. So I could never tire of hearing it.

It was a smash hit on pop stations all over USA and Canada.

I don't remember a legitimate commercial release of that song by a male artist or male group. But, I'd bet that Bridges Knight and Eaton (Brothers of Soul) recorded a demo version. I wonder if a tape of that was circulated on The Northern scene, as several people have had contact with Fred Bridges?

The Miracles -"Christmas Everyday" The Nibbs - "Spending Christmas Day With You" Horace Williams - "I'm Going Christmas Shopping" Carla Thomas - "Gee Whiz, It's Christmas" Darlene Love - "Christmas, Baby please Come Home", "Winter Wonderland" Ronettes - "Sleigh Ride"

What does the song "Snow" by Tina Roberts have to do with Christmas, that makes it a Christmas song???? Neither Christmas, nor anything even remotely related to Christmas, Christ, Christ's birth, a holiday, or even giving gifts, is mentioned in that song. She mentions only that "Snow" makes her "feel like falling in love." Nothing about Christmas. "Snow" has no more to do with Christmas than almost any other word in The English language. During the first several hundred years of Christianity, there was almost no snow in any of the countries where Christians lived. Even in Britain and North America "Snow should be a lot more identified with St. Valentines' day. Where I was raised, it snowed almost half the year. So, why would Snow stand only, or most, for December 25??? Tina Roberts' "Snow" is NOT a Christmas song.

This is a little bit early to be called "Soul", but it's been my favourite Christmas song since its release in 1957:

Happy Christmas and New year! Prettige Keerstdagen en gelukkig Nieuwjaar! Glad Jul och gott Nytt Aar! Frohe Weihnachten und Gutes neues Jahres! Joyeux Noel et bonne Anee! Glaedelig Jul og godt Nytaar! Hyvaa Joulua ja Onnelista Uutta Vuotta!

Curtis Mayfield's "Christmas Time" - sung by Jan Bradley https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=w5rQH2vfggc

It seems to have been never used (no release). I've never seen a 105, and never seen any listing for one, nor even a scheduled record for that number.

So, that confirms my guess that the red Columbia issue was an end of 1965 release (per 107000 pressing #), and the pink release was early to mid 1966. So, for whatever reason, Hanks switched pressing plants for issue # 106 and 107, and went back to his other Chicago and Detroit local plants for 108 on, and a later pressing of 106.

The Magictones' MAH's 1037 and 1038 were released in 1968, while their red Wheelsville pressing was released during 1965. So, my theory about needing the money for an outside pressing job is not related to the situation in 1968, when Hanks went to Wingate for financing help. So, I believe that this Columbia pressing probably came first, because its 107626 number indicates late 1965, and I think the locally-pressed Wheelsville may have been a little later. It is listed as 1966 on Global Dog, and a couple other discographies. It seems possible that Mike had a first pressing (of the Wheelsville USA 700000) pressed at Columbia near the end of 1965, right after he released the Freddy Butler and Rudy Robinson first series singles, then he started the pink labels, and after the first five were released, he released another pressing of The Magictones on the new, pink label on Wheelsviile USA 106 in early 1966. The problem with this theory would be that the red 700702 release was also numbered 106, and would imply that if it were pressed in late 1965, that the Wheelsville USA catalogue release numbers were already scheduled up to at least number 106 near the end of 1965. That's believable for Motown. But hard to imagine that Hanks' operation planned that many releases THAT far in advance. So, as I have no real evidence to know for sure, I can't say which pressing was released first. Maybe if we can date the pressing numbers of the other plant, we can figure out which was first. What we DO know is that both were out fairly close in time to each other (the second was not pressed for "oldies sales", but was likely just a second, follow-up pressing to take advantage of continuing sales.

I found both within 3-6 months of each other during the airplay and first sales run of the record. I can't remember which I saw and found first. I know that some time around that period, Mike Hanks ran out of operating money, which led him to need to go to an outside source for money for press runs. That ended up being a pressing and distribution deal with Ed Wingate's golden World/Ric Tic operation. I believe that resulted in the red Columbia Chicago/Terre Haute pressing shown above, but I'm not positive. The multi-coloured pressings, if I remember correctly, had one RCA pressing, and one local Detroit plant (American?). But as they were pressed only within some months, I would guess that the multi-coloured was first, and then hanks ran out of money during the record's run, needed to press more, and so, went to the outside source for more money. That would make the red pressing the latter. But, it could also have been just the opposite. He could have needed the money first, got the pressing deal (which also included The Magictones' 2 releases on MAH's 1037 and 1038), and after getting some new cash of his own, had a second pressing of "Me And My Baby" pressed up at a local plant, and not distributed by Golden World.

I saw this one out also back in the day. I think its a second press run, but NOT a re-issue. I think it was out, possibly 3-6 months after the first, multi-coloured issue (or was it before-I can't remember)?. But, it has a different catalogue number. I'm pretty sure that this one was pressed and distributed by Ed Wingate's Golden World/Ric-Tic, while the other was pressed and distributed by Mike Hanks' MAH's/D-Town Records, as an independent. It was the same situation with MAH's 1037 and 1038. They each had a Wingate-pressed and distributed and independent press run.

So THAT'S why i couldn't find them!!!

Ha! Ha! it would serve you Brits right if a billionaire Inuit from Greenland buys it, and never lets anyone see it again. It belongs in The UK no more than Frank Wilson belongs in USA. And don't tell me that The British are just "rescuing" the obscure Soul records from USA where no one appreciates them. I've known collectors of African-American music in USA almost all my life, who were buying the rare records then, and have been all along. Yes, I think it would be nicer if a Brit who liked that music from the time it was out and has been collecting ever since, gets it, but that should also be true for Americans having their rarest records.