Robbk

And now I see that it is off-white, rather than powder blue!!! So it was a white DJ issue. No wonder I never saw a powder blue store stocker! Now I don't have to worry about having Alzheimer's disease. But I have to resign myself to the fact that I'm colour-blind!

It must be VERY rare. It's a Chicago mid-'60s record I've never seen on a powder blue store-stocker pressing (only on yellow). I'd like to know if this might have come from it's first, very limited release, and if The Yank saw it back in the day. Interesting that Jump Jackson wrote the song, and, yet, it was published by Ed Wingate's Myto Music, but still released a small, Chicago indie label. Did this come from John Anderson's haul from United Distributors?

Don Davis was producing for his Groove City records then. Maybe there were problems for Patti to get out of her current label contract then, so Davis couldn't release it on Groove City, and/or he couldn't get a label/distribution deal with a major label, to release it? Who was Patti recording with at that time?

I saw a fair amount of The Exits on Kapp on black store stock. We had them at Dolphins of Hollywood. I saw them in other shops as well. It didn't sell much or chart much. But it wasn't all that rare when it was out.

He may have gotten a lot of them from Ron Murphy, who ended up getting the remaining stock of them.

Happy Holidays, everyone!!!

Nice to hear that the Success masters will be included. I hope there are some nice unreleased cuts among them.

I've seen a few store stockers of the Tony Michaels, as well.

I saw a handful of Tamiko Jones' stockers, mostly back in the mid 1960s, and a few later.

Absolutely! Avin, Celtex, Expo, O-Pex, and Webcor ALL were Chicago labels, with Lasley involvement or connection, and all had links to Detroit, as well.

Avin was a Chicago label. Andre Williams was a Chicagoan, whose base was always in Chicago, but he worked more in Detroit for some years, but mainly commuted back and forth between the two cities for many years. He kept a home in Chicago, but stayed with friends and associates, in Detroit when recording there, and had an apartment there for awhile. He rarely had the money to finance his own record companies, so his labels were generally owned by financing partners even if he was the COO, A&R man and main producer.

I've inly ever seen the yellow stocker. Never seen a white DJ of this issue. I've never seen this on Karen, only Moira.

I've seen the green one a few times in L.A. back when it was out. But, I'll admit that the white DJ was a LOT more common, and then, the red stocker. I'm pretty sure we carried it at Dolphins of Hollywood. WoW!!! A Charles Brandy stocker!!! I've NEVER seen one of those!!!

Yes. The Mighty Marvelows was easy to get on WDJ when it was out. But, I've seen very few of The Continental 4 (of course, the fact I was in Chicago, rather than Pittsburgh, might explain those two points.

I hate being old and having most of the last half of my life's memory unretrievable until I see or hear something that triggers it! Of course, I knew that Kim was from Cleveland, and was married to Freddie. And he produced records mainly on The East Coast, but a few in Cleveland, too.

Wow! I've never seen nor heard of either the Kim Tolliver or the Porgy Williams. at least , I knew there must be other Sylves records than the Porgy and The Monarchs. But, I've never seen a Castro record before. Freddie Briggs producing Kim Tolliver. I'd have guessed it was an East Coast (probably New York Metro Area label). But the label design and font look like Midwest. Does anyone here know who owned Castro and where it was located?

1973-5 seems about right. And there were missing numbers in 45 Cat's Curtom discography around then. Maybe The Demolition 45 I remember is one of those missing numbers. For example, 2004 from October, 1974 is missing (only number since 1971 missing. May be THAT was The Demolition issue I saw?

The name "Demolition" rings a bell in my cloudy memory. I'm sure I've seen it before. When I picture in my mind's eye, a Curtom 45 with the group name, "Demolition" on it, it seems to look like something I've seen. I probably saw that 45 and just didn't bother to buy it, because it was a '70s record with a too modern sounding group name to be something I might like, and the songs were probably not written by a writer I liked. In any case, they were a semi-Disco group. So, I wouldn't have liked their material. There is no Curtom record by them on 45 Cat. But I'm pretty sure I saw a 1977 or 1978 45 by them.

My copy, and all the copies, of that record, and all the other Villa Magicians' records I've ever seen were the yellow label versions on the independent Villa, asnd orange labels on The Cameo-Parkway distributed issues.

The 2nd I knew, but the poster on Soulful Detroit stated that all were part of The extended Sextette, appearing together as a self-contained group, not needing musicians supplied by the venue. So, I had guessed that The Magicians (who also recorded for other labels) joined together with The Frank Jones Band(Sextette plus added strings, horns, and percussion) to form the self-contained band/vocal act.

I have a handful of Chicago acetates and vinyl studio demos and another couple of handsful of rare Chicago white DJ issues I found in thrift stores in Chicagoland and The Tri-State Area over the years, But not that Sable Record. Although, I bought The Magnetics' store stock issues.

Yes! The Northern Soul Scene thought "Double Cookin' " sounded a LOT like Motown, not helped by Simon Soussan covering it up as by "Bob Wilson and The Golden Strings", implying that it might have been an unreleased San Remo Golden Strings cut (with several Funk Brothers playing on it). And, I had thought California's Villa Records was the same label as Pancho Villa's yellow Villa Records of Philadelphia, because they both had the same name and label colour. I figured that Pancho leased The Checkerboard Squares' cuts from a producer from another state (Detroit or Washington D.C.), and that The Magicians were a Philly group. I'm surprised it took me all these years to find out the truth.

WOW!!! Those are nice finds!!! That Sable white DJ is dead rare!

I asked about this on Soulful Detroit Forum, and NONE of the old-time Detroiters knew about The Checkerboard Squares, or "Double Cookin' ". I also found out that Villa Records of The Magicians, Checkerboard Squares, and Oz & The Spurlings was located in The Bay Area, (not the same yellow label as Pancho Villa's Philadelphia label). Furthermore, the poster stated that all 3 of the groups I mentioned above were manifestations of the same band, with The Magicians and Oz and The Spurlings acting as the band singers in a combined all-in one, self-contained instrumental/vocalists' band. It appears to me that The West Coast Villa label was a regional, California only - distributed label (or possibly a slightly wider West Coast distribution). We never got "Double Cookin' " in Chicago, and i don't remember ever seeing The Magicians' records in shops there. Out of the half million or more records I looked through there over 15 years, i may have seen one used/beat copy in a thrift shop once, that must have been brought there by someone who moved from California. I'm guessing that Oz and The Spurlings were the actual Musicians singing, and The Magicians were a regular singing group that teamed up with The Frank Jones Sextette plus a few added strings and percussion musicians to form a band/vocalist self-contained band, like E.J. and The Echoes.

Ha! Ha! And who would ever guess that I've been a comedy writer since 1984?