Robbk
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I can vouch for the fact that Rod knew about it in the late '70s, as did Dave Withers and all the Brits I knew. I had it on the US album. The "fast version" you know might be off a doctored (fast-pitched) recording studio demo or acetate, to come up with a 'unique" copy. I don't remember hearing that there were 2 different versions.
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I found it in a 3-for-a Dollar cut-out bin at Beverly Records in 1967.
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Are you sure it's Detroit? Where did you get that information? Givens is a Detroit label. I never heard of Goins being located in Detroit. What year was the record released? It doesn't look like a '60s Detroit font. I don't remember Goins Records on any list of Detroit labels. including Graham's or the other major Detroit label lists. Can somebody post an MP3 of at least snippits of the cuts? I'd like to see if I can hear Detroit session players in the instrumental.
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Was that a '70s release? What label?
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The musicians sound a little like a few of the late '60s Detroit musicians. So, IF we find out that this recording was made in Detroit, I won't be terribly shocked. But sound can fool you sometimes, and people like Richard Tee in New York, sometimes 'simulated "The Detroit Sound" several times, very successfully. I'll be curious to find out who made this recording, and where it was made.
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Luther Ingram, If It's All The Same, Instrumental Version
Robbk replied to Suinoz's topic in Look At Your Box
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Sorry to hear that. He was one of my favourites. His music will keep his memory alive for generations after this.
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As a former co-owner of a small-independent record company (label), I can tell you that small labels are also faced with almost all those problems and decisions you mentioned above.
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Here's a studio demo for the 1970 O'Retta release:
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Yes, that listing for Mr. Clean on 1002 is probably an inaccurate (bogus) listing. Now, I don't remember if my New Yorkers' on Radio City was in the 100 series or the 1000 series. But when I bring up the image in my mind, 1000 "looks more correct". I don't recall seeing a Radio City New Yorkers on 100 or 101. I can't help but wonder if the New Yorkers on Radio City weren't ALL on 1001 and 1002 BEFORE the change to Royal Knights, and then repressed on both same numbers, as The Royal Knights.
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I found the thread we had on this subject on Raresoul Forum in 2007. Unfortunately, I had already forgotten where I'd re-shelved the Radio City New Yorkers' record by then, and so I didn't scan it on that thread. the Mr. Clean Radio City 1007 release has both sides scanned there. Tony parker and Chalky participated in that thread.
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I wonder if i used to know where Primemasters was located, and filed it on THAT city's shelf? Does anyone know where Primemasters was located? Or if it had any affiliation with a larger distributor?
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I think that 1001 was issued twice, to provide the name change: Radio City 1001 - The New Yorkers - You should have told me / There's going to be a wedding Radio City 1001 - The Royal Knights - You should have told me / There's going to be a wedding And then, I'm almost certain there was a Royal Knights issue of "Don't Wanna Be Your Fool" on Radio City 1002. I think I've seen that. I think the main question is whether or not there was a New Yorkers issue of "Don't Want To Be Your Fool" on Radio City, before the name change. There doesn't seem to have been.
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I've been trying to picture my Radio City DJ copy in my mind. And, more and more I'm visualising "There's Going to be a Wedding", rather than "Don't Wanna Be Your Fool" (which I have on two different Tac-=Ful pressings. So, I think I was mistaken, and have only "There's Going To Be A Wedding", on Radio City, rather than "Don't Wanna Be Your Fool". But I'll keep trying to find the Radio City record to make sure.
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Thanks. But, no, Primemasters distributing the Radio City issue wasn't the reason I re-shelved Tac-Ful.Tac-Ful. I haven't been able to locate them for about a year now. I haven't got time to systematically look through all my 45s.
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I'll try to find it and scan and upload it. I just can't remember where I shelved it. I moved it and Tac-Ful from my L.A. small independent labels shelf, to a new location with the distributed labels of a certain national major, after finding out that Tac-Ful Records was, at one time, distributed by that Major national record company. Does anyone remember who distributed Tac-Ful?
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Of course, "Don't Want To Be Your Fool" came out on Radio City. I bought a copy in the mid '60s. Mine is a white DJ with black printing. Ben Gresham re-released it on that label, after moving from L.A. to San Diego.
