Robbk

Here's a scan of REM 102: Here's a link to the ballad side("Hey little Girl"): It's a Caucasian group singing a poor attempt at a Doo Wop ballad. "The Fern" is likely a very silly dance step. I'd be afraid to even listen to that side. Its ZTSC # 90,000 shows that it was pressed at Columbia Terre Haute and likely mastered at Columbia Chicago in spring of 1964.

Carrie Records started before 1961. After releasing two Cornell Blakely 45s on Charles Fulton's Fulton Records in 1958 and 1959, Hendrix started his own Carrie Records. Carrie 211(yellow-green), "Cindy"/"Listen To My Heart" by Cornelius Grant and The Blenders was released in late 1959 or early 1960. There was also an early Gospel release by The Corder Family (382)(1960?), before Cornell Blakely's 1503 in 1961.

Too bad they don't have dates on them.

I've seen other photos where they are clearly discernable as two different people.

Regarding those who think that Clifford Binns may have just been Edward Hamilton under a pseudonym, - Ihave seen photographs of Clifford Binns and Edward Hamilton, and they are clearly two different people. James Hendrix mentioned both of them in at least one interview.

The Clifford Binns recordings seem to have been made in early 1965. There seems to be a gap in Carrie releases between 1962 and early 1965, with Hendrix's activities from mid 1962 through the end of 1964 dealing with other labels (Cornell Blakely working with Berry Gordy for John Richbourg's Rich Records, Arabians on Staff Records, Big Red and The Comancheros on Arnold, and recordings by The Arabians, Edward Hamilton, Gearline Duckett, The Jackson Singers, Mack Arnold and The Blenders) that weren't released until later, on Carrie (South Carolina or Tennessee address), or Lanrod Records or on LaBeat, Mary Jane or Cool School Records.

This makes more sense.

Yes, clearly I should have stated Eddie Davis and billy Cardenas' labels (including not just Rampart, but also Faro, Linda and Whittier.

I'mpretty sure it was always based in L.A.

I agree with this. Never saw the navy blue one early, but saw the old design white DJ and powder blue store stocker in 1965. Never saw the Navy blue till 1969 or early '70s.

That font looks like L.A. 1963-67. I'd guess that he might have worked out of California.

I never heard that any of the three were related to each other. It's a pretty common name in English-speaking countries, and among African Americans.

I can't remember for sure whether it was 1020 or 1024. But, it probably WAS 1020, as I remember some discrepancy because of Lu Pine 120 being both the Joe Stubbs and Primettes' releases. It SHOULD have been 1024.

There is a district called The Rampart District. It is centered around Rampart Street, soutwest of Echo Park. It is populated mainly by Latinos, and has several gangs. I thought that Hector Gonzalez' labels were located in East l.A. But, maybe he, himself lived in The Rampart area.

I've always seen VJ 441 as "Tragic/Come to Me", and "Loving You" on Abner. But, i do think I remember seeing the Tragic/Loving You combo on VJ 441, as well. Maybe it was a later re-issue, when VJ was desperately releasing records to try to bring in cash?

The Four Tempos, Invinctbles, Soul-jers, Atlantics, Village Callers and Barry White had good records out on that label. Even Cannibal and The Headhunters, whose fast songs I don't like in the slightest, sang a few nice ballads for the label.

So THIS Ernie Fields is NO RELATION to the band leader I listened to in the '40s-'60s?

That's a great cut. Is that the SON of Ernie Fields who was the house band leader and arranger for Cash/Money records from 1953-63, and also recorded for Imperial and Rendezvous Records in the late '50s and early '60s? He can't be the same guy, he'd be 80 years old now.

There are printer errors all the time. The error could have been on a second issue, but the label owner decided to have the title changed by hand, as their publicity all had had the correct spelling. We had some printer errors on Airwave Records, despite having sent correct information to the printer.

No. The Kittens Three.

I have it on the plain pink label.

I'd vote for the powder blue (turquoise) being the older, as Bob stated, it has the older design, and i saw the powder blue and white DJs with that design when the record was out. I never saw the dark blue version until much later.

I've got a pink one I'll consider swapping, eventually (after the going price gets high enough).

I didn't know that The Five keys did any recording for any RCA label (or does that album include non-RCA recordings (maybe bought out later by RCA's conglomerate)?).

I had the 1000 series issue at one time, but traded it away, years ago.