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  1. Probably New York. Weren't The Hamilton Brothers working in New York at that time? They seem to all have been there early in their careers. Although they were born and raised in Detroit, it seems that they had moved to New York to work as songwriters. I would guess that Al (Kent) seems to have had his first re-connection with Detroit (and Berry Gordy) in singing one of Gordy's songs ("That's Why I Love You so") while recording for Chess records, while Gordy's writing partners (sisters Gwen's and Anna's and partner Roquel "Billy" Davis' record label, Anna Records, was distributed by Chess, and Berry's group, The Miracles, were Chess artists. Berry Gordy was writing songs for several other Chess artists at the time (Harvey Fuqua, Etta James, Penny & Ekkos). Ronnie Savoy (Eugene (Ronnie) Hamilton, was working out of New York then. Bob Hamilton(AKA Rob Reeco), who worked as a songwriter for Motown in the early '60s, may have been in Detroit or New York at that time. I don't remember seeing his name on record credits in the late '50s. They seem to have returned to Detroit in the mid '60s. I've never seen an Al Kent credit on a Motown record (unlike Bob Hamilton). Clearly, Al Kent started working for Ed Wingate in 1964 or 1965. Wingate's early Golden World and Ric Tic productions (1962-to early 1964 ) were produced in New York. That may be where he met Al Kent and Ronnie Savoy. Bob may have joined them at Wingates' labels in 1964, moving over from Motown, seeing more opportunity for himself there.
  2. I think he was from The East Coast. He sang "I'm a Walkin' For JFK, which charted in some cities in 1962, releases on Cameo-Parkway's Fairmount subsidiary.
  3. On my original Brunwick Jackie Wilson, only the name Hamilton appears as writer. The addition of King may just have been a mistake on the Coral pressing. I've never seen the name King added on any other release.
  4. Clearly it is from 1972 or after.
  5. I started listening to my parents' Jazz, Swing and Blues and R & B 78s around 1952. They started buying records for me in 1953. I started buying for myself in 1955, from record shop bargain bins and thrift and junk stores. I was still buying Black American artists' records in the early and early/mid '60s when R&B transitioned to Soul music. So, I was in on its beginning. I was in my late teens when Soul was starting. If Northern Soul started in 1970, I was 24 when the scene started. I was about 30 when first contacted for records by a Brit.
  6. I have a heard time imagining that both Barbara Acklin's (Chicago production) and Little Johnny Taylor's West Coast production) were originally released on the same local label. That has to be a re-issue label (and I'm skeptical that its owner actually paid the rights holders for the rights to issue records using those recordings.
  7. Yes, the white issues of Instant Heartbreak are promos, and the star indicates "plug side". I've been seeing Drew records since their start, and only seen them in plain white, plain brown or Laurie sleeves. That Drew sleeve was clearly made after 2000 AD, by a fan/ I've never seen it in my 47 years of looking at 45s since Drew was started.
  8. I've never seen it. But it looks like a '70s label style. It definitely looks like a Chicago pressing. But doesn't look like it's connected to Carl Davis' Dakar Records. Could this have been released in 1974? Wasn't Davis' Dakar still operating in 1974? I doubt that a second, separate Dakar records would have operated at the same time in the same city. Could it have been a special pressing that Davis' Dakar made for La Cade, before they decide to press it up on a label with their own name?
  9. I agree with this. I think The Professionals' lead is NOT Steve Mancha.
  10. Popcorn Wylie left Motown in spring 1962, to join Robert Bateman and Sonny Sanders at Wilbur Golden's Correc-Tone Records. He had recorded with Johnnie Mae Matthews' Northern Records in late 1959/beginning of 1960, just before changing from a part-timer to a full-timer with Motown. "But the phrase Northern Soul wasn't even in place until the early 70's". So true. Those 2 English words probably NEVER appeared adjacent to each other (in ANY context) during the early 1960s. "Just finished a book on The Supremes by Mark Ribowsky in which he states that Popcorn Wylie left Motown (early 60's) to join a label called Northern Soul!" People who write books should really do extensive research and editing before releasing books or so-called, "informative" literature of any kind. I've read a lot of inaccurate material and a lot of nonsense in recent years. A lot of drivel turns to would-be "substantiated" "information" on The Internet. People shouldn't use Wikipedia as an "authority".
  11. Male: Ray Pollard Rudy West Sollie McElroy Nat King Cole Willie Winfield Female: Dee Dee Warwick Baby Washington Darlene Love Barbara Green Mary Wells
  12. Trudel seems to have been an L.A. label. So, I would guess that The Phonetics also came from there. The owners seem to have been Jack (Jac) Brown, Hankins and Gildon. Willie Hutch seems to have run the sessions, and done a lot of the writing.
  13. I don't remember a version of "Love's Gone Bad" by The Elgins. But, I do remember the "Garage Band" version by The Underdogs.
  14. The music from that cut originally came from a tape made by Rod Shard (in 1981) off of a tape I made (in 1978) directly off a Jobete Music acetate (while screening songs for "From The Vaults"). It was a typical mid sixties Jobete acetate, with a faded cream-white, blank label, with "Jobete Music Co." typed on it in black ink, and the song title in red ink. There was no artist name. I'm sure that someone in UK taped it off Rod, or Dave Withers, and made some "new" acetates or studio demo copies. Some years later, the original Motown/Jobete studio demos and acetates found their way into British hands through auctions or direct sales from people who took them out of the company's possession (In 1988 when the company was sold to Universal???). The original 1960s Motown/Jobete acetates and demos should be VERY valuable. The early 1980s acetates/demos shouldn't be worth anywhere near those, but they are also dead rare, so I'd guess they'd get what people are willing to pay. The fact that there was a legitimate? (or, at least mass release) later, with picture jacket (was it around 1990?), will hold down the value those 1981 pressings.
  15. Yes, most likely it's a remake of the Smokey Robinson song (maybe in a slightly different style from that of The Contours). A 'super-lily-White City, eh? Like Shaker Heights, Hillsboro, Bel Air, Grosse Point, Arlington Heights, Olympia Fields and Mount Royal used to be? Ha! Ha! Well, I've met racists who hate Black people, but still manage to listen regularly to Motown music, and like it a lot I don't understand that kind of behaviour. But, there's no accounting for Human behaviour!
  16. Wilshire most likely ran the session in New York. But several 1960s New York producers and arrangers (including Wilshire) have been known to travel to Philadelphia and DC to run sessions. Dale Warren even commuted from DC to Detroit and back. Sammy Lowe traveled as well. Mike Terry from Detroit to Chicago (as did many others).
  17. Era didn't really have much, if any of its own financed production. They were almost exclusively a label that distributed and pressed up leased independent productions. Often the Era issue had smaller press runs than the original, local LA label. Boxes and boxes of small L.A. label Soul records survived to eventually have mass numbers of local issues find their way to The UK, while the Era issue remained ultra rare.
  18. SO, he was from Uniontown, Pennsylvania. I knew that he was from The NorthEast, as his earliest records were on labels located in the Mid-Atlantic states (not related in any way to Detroit).
  19. I'd bet the farm that this singer IS DEFINITELY the same Barbara Wilson that was Frank Wilson's wife. Not only is her voice familiar, as on her Motown demos for Brenda Holloway. But, these songs both sound like Wilson-Gordon songs (without a doubt). The instrumentals sound a bit like Frank Wilson's A&M work. But the songs sound like they were written for Brenda Holloway and to be sold to Jobete Music. Perhaps they were offered to Motown, and rejected? Can anyone tell me why Mrs. Wilson died so young? What a great find this was!
  20. No! He passed on in 2006. I don't know if JoAnne Bratton is still alive.
  21. I have the following for J & W Records: 1000 Stewart Ames - "King For A Day"/"Oh Angelina" 1964 1001 Sue Perrin - "I Can't Let Go"/"Clickety Clack Heart" 1964 The following were also listed by David Meikle, in a 2002 post on a Soulful Detroit Forum thread, referring to Ed Wingate, himself, having recently stated in a previous SDF post: 100 Willie Morganfield (Blues artist)-stated by David to have been the first release in late 1962. 101 Sue Perrin - "I Wonder"/"Put A Ring on My Finger" 1962 104 Sue Perrin - "Ring, bells, Ring"/"You Are My Only Love" 1963 However, I believe that Mr. Wingate confused J & W with his early, 1962 Golden World releases, or, at least, he was referring to Golden World releases 100-105 as having been released in 1962, without stating that he had changed his discussion from J & W to Golden World. My reasoning for that conclusion is because Golden World 101 and 104 were identical to what is listed here as J & W 101 and 104 (which I have, myself); and I have also seen Willie Morganfield as the artist for Golden World 100. I don't believe there were J & W releases in 1962. If any of you can give me some more information on these questions, please do.
  22. Was this a Mexican-American label? Or just a typo, which should have been spelt: "Jamie"? I didn't know that Jamie Records was still in operation in 2002. or, had it been shut down previously, and revived?
  23. I know of J & W 1001-Sue Perrin - "Can't Let Go" (1964) and Stewart Ames-"Oh Angelina"-(1965?). What other releases did this Golden World subsidiary have? Can we piece together a discography?
  24. The Detroit Stars label was also one of Ron's labels.
  25. 1991 is correct. That was Ron Murphy's label. Yes, they were from unreleased masters of Detroit Gold Soul (Metros, Nelson Sanders and Doni Burdick), from 1970 recordings.


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