People get the two separate, completely unrelated groups mixed up because George Motola's L.A. group were from L.A, and The Chicago Vows/Major's/Majors/Major IV ended up recording last, for an L.A. label (Venture Records). But, the 2 groups had no connection. The L.A. Vows were formed by James Moore, and also had Ralph Chestnut (Morris Chestnut's cousin) in the group, as well as Helen Simpson (who led on "I Wanna Chance") and later married Moore, and, I believe that her brother (also named Simpson) was in the group at one time, as was Morris Chestnut, and they had a few more members at other times (from L.A.). We had a complete list on a Soulful Detroit thread, but I can't find it now. The Chicago group was led by Larry Montgomery, and also included Burl(Berl) Bynum , Lawrence Bibbs and Joe "Fuzzy" Buckner. They had a couple later members, Kirk Davis, and a guy named Lester. We had a few threads on Soulful Detroit (which I can't now find). Larry's nephew (adopted son) is a good friend of mine. He knew all the group members. They recorded for Ran-Dee Records, and Leo Austell's and Bob Lee's Sta-Set Records as The Vows, Bob Lee's Big 3 Records as The Major's, and Mickey Stevenson's Venture Records as The Majors and The Major IV. They never lived in L.A., but only recorded there for Venture. Ruth Moore was their manager. Bob A has a great interview with Vows/Major's members. They also sang backgrounds on several Chicago and a few Detroit recording sessions of famous artists.