Dean

I'm certainly not a big buyer and am not implicted as I've never had cause to let you down (I Hope). Whilst not condoning the practice, I do think vinyl buying is more of an emotional exercise than a practical one. I can understand someone being swept away by the desire to own a record without reflecting on the more realistic implications of paying for it! I think the emotional angle, and the following embarrassment of economic reality kicking in, is part and parcel of this whole "scene". Emotional desire of ownership will outway economic reality for many a vinyl junkie. I don't think many will recall him but an old mate of mine, Fran Morgan (booby) was due to be married and blew the mortgage installment on a Eddie Garrigan many years ago resulting in a non-wedding. You can pick up eddie garrigan for under £50 now, but at the time he sold a future for it. Vinyl, don't you love it.

Thanks Harry and Chalky, top class vinyl porn. We have a statue to The Archer pressing plant in Nottingham, [url="https://www.nottinghamactiondays.co.uk/images/robin-hood-sherwood.jpg refosoul

Several similar arguments / discussions condense into threads on here, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. There seems to be some unresolved issues around the "scene" (understanding Paul D point I hope about is it records or the rare scene?) that erupt regularly. I'm at odds with "rare" being used as a derogatory term when associated with scene or records. My abiding opinion of "northern" was to celebrate its rarity. I'd prefer for rare records to be played only by those who have them (rather than pretend to). That encourages the point of having to travel to hear them to celebrate their rarity of number and quality (in that the sound is worth travelling to hear also). A lot of records are special in so much as they are very scarce, if they're also very good then brilliant, that's what we want. Hearing it becomes a privilege to be sought out. As for rare scene, I'll embrace any group of people who appreciate the history and enjoyment of music to move your feet and your soul. I'm sure there will be those I'll be happy to disagree with within that scene, but aint that life. For me it's the term "Northern" that conjours up images of media misrepresentation and retro fancy dress, although agree with Matt about wishing to re-claim it. Is one opposite of rare common?

Steve - this is genuine and not suggesting promotion, will you be stocking this. Is there a date? Best wishes, Dean.

If you pay me commission MAK, then I'll pay Soul45er his! It's well worth a listen if anyone interested, really enjoyed it in my kitchen.

I think it ws Adam who played Commodores a few month ago at Rugby nighter freestyle room (Move On v Attic). Struck a chord with me so was asking Adam about it, he had a very used spare issue that played fine that he let me have for a very good price. Picked up a white demo off ebay cheap, then came across this French pic sleeve issue on Rare Earth. Thought it worth sharing, as if you're into somewhat funkier, and frantic, sound, this is a good one to pick up. Been enjoying playing at home. But also a fine example of the somewhat wierd and wonderful art of French pic sleeves. The image has no particular specific link to the song as far as I can discern.

Thanks, will do. Didn't recall hearing this before but having checked it am ashamed that's true, don't htink I hae come across it. Good sound, good shout out. I Dig You baby youtube link here, some cool dance floor scenes too. https://www.youtube.c...-NgMxUFUo4&NR=1 Must look at how to attach refosoul!!

Not slagging off white dance tunes, just don't like Magic Carpet Ride much. As with most discussions it's not metaphorically, or in this case literally, a black and white deal. Nobody has wanted to address the point I was making about (in my opinion) superior sounds like I Dig You Baby not picking up plays. That's ok, happy to provoke discussion. I think Kiki was still white when she cut this

See how many Kitchen promoting sounds you can squeeze in Paul (had a look at the website by the way, looks good). Otis Reading - You Left The Water Running?

Hope I didn't come across as trashing her. She does it, I just listen, easy to see where the greater effort and skill lies in that relationship. NS is such an odd collection of music over the years. I don't like Magic Carpet Ride (I do prefer Gabriells's version to Kiki Dee's, perhaps that's because I'm not trying to see it as anything other than happy pop). For me its probably simply tainted by association wih a nighter record I never got being played. To reveal my own contradictions there are many more "poppy" records I've enjoyed attempting to dance to over the years and enjoyed, I have a liking these days for 60s punk garage psyke, perhaps because I like those terms in a sentance together. Historically and currently I really like Dry Well (one of Spots favourites ) but it's a job to find the soul in it. What I was doing was pondering the thought of Magic Carpet Ride being picked up by the NS dancefloors (prompted by hearing Gabriella) whilst I Dig You Baby was mostly ignored, which I think is quite a soul sound. Interesting to hear Kiki Dee's MCR well thought of by some people, I can't hear it but at least it shows a healthy diversity across opinions.

I think I prefer it to the Kiki Dee track, but it just makes me shudder at the memory. Hope all's good Pete.

Heard Gabriella Cilimi do a live 'Magic Carpet Ride' on Radio 2 Sunday whilst driving family around. Didn't know she released this back in March, thank god it didn't get many plays. Just reminded me of some of the popsoul tosh played at nighters (particularly wigan) in the 80s. Struggled with memory but then dawned on me it was Kiki Dee . . . . . . . . . . I remember only too well Magic Carpet Ride (it was Kiki Dee wasn't it) gettin' plays, but don't recall hearing much of the far superior Motown sound-a-like 'I Dig You baby' on World Pacific. Obviously my opinion, but some of the nighter sounds then jeeeeeeesus, compared to some sounds that didn't see much of the decks. Tastes change over the years and perhaps they were better sounding on the floor with lots of clapping to hide the tune. Mind you, I'll give gabriella being fit! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHt38RgWhe8

I'm aware this has turned into a 2 party discussion that we could do by pm, but hell I think it's interesting. Sean - absolutely fascinated that the image is from Vogue in '68. Gonna start a fan club up. Probabaly only about 70 years old if they're still going, could be well fit still and looking for a younger man . . . . . . . . . . . spotlight on me

Thanks Sean, great art work. There isn't a similar one, as part of a set, for autumn when the leaves fall is there? They do look the part of debs don't they. I wonder if they ever supported live or any footage of them with The Beatles?.

Can't believe you haven't had this; Eddie Parker - I'm gone. .........................."I don't want no woman always telling me what to do" I was on holiday two years ago, just a family holiday in Menorca, the hotel were hosting a wedding and mum wanted to look at the dresses (no honest!) so we had a stoll over, the happy couple's first dance was to Queen - I want To Break Free. Don't know how it translates into Spanish. I bloody can't abide Queen too.

The one played in Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's was the faster and messy 2nd issue on Muppet with the triangle "ding" at the end.

A friend of mine's cousin knew this old girl who's daughter used to knit those indian dream catcher things that people use as random decorations. She got one in a soul bowl bargain pack together with a Salvadors white demo signed by Rob Marriott. Back in the day of course. Wasn't it played in Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's

Sound clips are crashing mine very often.

You'll regret selling that Freddie Scott, one of the best tunes you've ever introduced me to (and you've introduced me to several), wonderful tune, deserves a big room spin.

I think familiarity has led a lot of us into being more critical (I include myself in that), ........ "I'll dance to this" ......... "I'll dance to this"........"I aint bloody dancin' to that!" That critical approach can in my opinion go a step too far with the alignment of different tribes, only dance to oldies, only dance to modern, only dance if nobody else knows it. Age, mood and agility also paly a part. For KevH it's if he's moved a piano recently or not. For Steve L there's a link to lager. My memory tells me that it was common at nighters, for a DJ to introduce a new play, then play it again later in the set. This could sometimes take weeks to establish. I seem to remember Paris Blues by Tony Middleton clearing the floor at Cleethorpes before becoming an established nighter floor filler. I think I probabaly dance so similar to most records that I'm quite comfortable dancing to something i don't know. I often find myself dancing to something I don't know only to realise after 40 to 50 seconds "Oh, I know this!"

Hi Martyn. That's where and when I remenber it from. Sort of record that slips under the radar these days, think JM guide (mine may be getting out of date now) has it at £50/£75 for issue demo (not at home to check but was looking the other day). I picked up a vg+++ pink DJ a couple of years ago on ebay for around £10 (in pic above), sold my blue issue (no centre, vg- label, vg+ record) for about £25 I think. May not see too many but would think not too pricey when you do. Great builder of a tune imo, subtle start building to a passionate haunting tune after quiet intro.

I don't know how widely Where is He was played. Think I have it on a tape from St Ives around '77 (could be '76). A substantial slice of "northern" could be argued to be not much of a soul record, feels different from the floor. The tape I have (somewhere) has the substantial unison hand-clapping that was a part of dance floor reaction at this time. Like your early comment, I'd always presumed Flamma was a female solo name not a group name. I'd be interested to hear anything out there under The Sherman Sisters. Might try to have a look at old Beatles footage too. All intersting to me Sean, quite often the story is bettr than the record, which just adds to the record. The Saatchi on-line site that has the pic of Corina Sherman on also has her daughter Zo Koko Flamma-Hill, also an artist. Funny thing site says she lived / studied in St Ives for a while, but I presume this is St Ives Cornwall not Cambridgeshire, given the artist community there. By the way, nobody played Eddie Parker 'Spotlights on You' at North Wingfield on Sat, definitely an underplayed (non)sound. Thanks for posting, enjoyed the info. Dean