Dean

Wouldn't have thought £13 common Pete, and I thought it looked good. Would look nice on the turntables I think.

More often on here we read questions and statements about the high prices JM gets for his auction items. Had to look twice tonight when I checked finishing prices: Monitors - Fence Around Your Heart. What is most likely a very rare Peruvian (!!!!!!) Buddah label . . . . . . . . . £13 . . . .. . .unless there's a 0 missing? I'll give the buyer £20. Presuming it's a typo . . . . . . or is the economic situation worse than I thought . . . . . . living in Mansfield, the 2nd most vulnerable area in the UK. We can't even be the best at being worst.

A little off topic but related, and made me smile. I'm watching an ebay item at the momet with this description: "Small hairline stress separation" That'll be a crack then.

Playing devil's advocate a bit here. I was one of the earlier viewers that didn't reply Benji. My first thought was "yep, quite clear, clearer than a lot of descriptions seen on ebay", and I'm sticking to that, I do think you made it quite clear. I stopped myself from posting whilst I considered interpretation for a moment. I think most of us want the best price we can get from ebay for a record, what we hope for is 2 or 3 bidders who really want it. Most of us watch misrepresented boots/pressings go through for sometimes stupid prices, thinking "I wish I could get that for my old boot" (at least I do) We want to be upfront so as not to try to con a buyer. But I think we use terms like re-issue a little too often, perhaps in the hope of some half-way route to fairness whilst still hoping for a good price. I don't know if this is a re-issue or a boot, Pikey's dog mentioned he thought a boot. I know there are implications for advertising a "bootleg copy" on ebay but perhaps many of us (including me) hide behind the term re-issue or second issue which perhaps signifies more legitimacy than is the case. Sellers who do advertise a boot copy (as some do) don't get anywhere near the price of those where there is some degree of doubt. As I say Benji, I do actually agree with you and think it's a fair enough description, and quite clearly stated. Just putting an alternatiew viewpoint..

Thanks for posts and scans Roger. The label listing I received had: S35001 - S35016 - as white/purple tramlined S35017 - both designs S35018 & S35019 - white/ purple (This list accuracy is thrown into doubt by Frank Wilson S35019 and S35009 Earl Van Dyke All For You not being marked as Not Released, where S35086/89/101/121 are all marked as Not Released. S35007 and S35114 are not allocated titles on this list, when these should be Merced Blue Notes and Jr Walker - You Are The Sunshine of MY lIfe respectively. The list also doesn't mention the earlier allocation of S 35112 to Edwin Star Ain't It Hell Up In Harlem that was re-allocated to Originals Supernatural Voodoo Woman). S35020 - S35023 - Circle design S35024 - both designs S35025 onwards marked as Circle design only. That makes the S35030 you picture above very interesting. After posting yesterday I did look and see a very battered Shorty Long Function at the Junction (S35021) on white / purple tramlined design, but it was too battered to be worth buying. Hadn't seen one before, I hope it doesn't prove to be so elusive I regret that.

just for comparison, the tramlined Monarch S35023. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I had a note from Motown with a lable list stating that S35020 - 23 inclusive were only on concentric circles. I've seen, but don't have a tramlined S35020 Francis Nero (Have the concentric circle, also have a white demo but can't recall design on that and it's in a box not with me at the moment). I've got tramlined S35022 and 23 (envious of |Rogers much cleaner 22). Don't recall seeing a tramlined S35021 Shorty Long - Function at the Junction / Call on me?

Anorak zipped up and ready to go: Monarch Press, Delta 61060, stamped number T4KM - 4441 - 1 (same as swilrl design). This is same design as my S35023 tramlined Gladys Knight - Just Walk In My Shoes / Stepping Closer to Your Heart. Monarch Press, Delta 62036, stamped number TK4M - 0402 - 1. I'm at wrong computer at the moment to upload a pic of that one, see if I can later. Coincidence T4KM and TK4M? Now . . . . .where did I put my life??

Here we go Roger. As I said, not a particularly clean one but will show slightly different design. This is very similar to the S35023 (Walk In My Shoes) tramlined design I have, smaller print on that one though. You wouldn't want to be sat between us at a dinner party would you, or stuck in a lift. Let's talk about record labels for a few hours eh!

Roger - I'm back reunited with my box and sat in my label anorak. I've not got a camera here to take a pic but the design of mine is a little different. Swirl copy is the same as your black text, little alignment difference on print but just a different print run. My tram-lined SOUL purple/white unfortunately isn't as clean as yours, but may be intersting: "WHAT BECOMES OF THE BROKENHEARTED" is in speach marks, arranged as above.1966 and time are under a smaller print S 35022 on right. "BABY I'VE GOT IT" arranged thus on flip, with speach marks again. Small difference but important to me . . . . . .and I think I'm speaking to a like minded person. Let me know if you want a pic posting, as I say - sadly not a clean copy but interesting never the less. Dean

Don't recall ever seeing a black/white SOUL swirl demo . . . . . . Anybody. Very interesting full label same side promo above Roger. Always appreciate your scans. Dean

Had a white demo at mine:

I saw Spaced (Milton Wright) went for £506 on John Manship auction last night. Made my early bid seem silly. Is this about right? By the way, very interesting list Sebastian, only a few I know. Dean

Good point Simon, but for most it isn't a "job". There's always a bit of ego involved too I'm sure. Many more irregular djs do so to share their records because they believe they have something to share. However, that doesn't account for the pressing box djs toting stuff around not to be proud of. IMO.

I think there's a NS geography thing here. As Kev H mentioned above the youth club sounds were played to a younger crowd by older guys (always male at the time) who we looked up to for having a few records. In the early 70s NS was mainstream around Nottingham with many youth club dj sets including a representation at least. Mine was Blidworth Miners welfare youth club, Nick Ackerman (still does weddings I think) had a Reparata 'Panic' on Mala to play along with Bob Wilson Strings-a-Go Go and other Soul Galore and 70s current soul issues and re-issues. As mentione dabove, youth club sound will refer to whatever the dj had in his box . . . . . . . . and played week-in week-out to very eager ears.

A lifetime not wasted then Sean. Four Tops version still chokes me each time I hear it, and its often on my home decks, never loses that impact - wonderfully delivered. Agree with Brian above, no need for a dancefloor to feel this.

Thanks Brian, Ken and Shinehead, really useful. The Nina Simone I play at home is the flip to the '68 RCA Victor Ain't Got No - I Got Life. I think there are a few different takes around by her. Previously unaware of the Al Wilson and Clarence Carter versions, thanks again for that info. Appreciate the replies. Dean.

A personal favourite non-northern/dance soul track, Jimmy Webb's 'Do What You Gotta Do'. I'd find it hard to choose between Four Tops, Nina Simone, and Roberta Flack, all very different and brilliant in their own way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q62CAf070I Think Four Tops just does it for me. Are there any other soul versions. I'm aware of the Johnny Rivers and Linda Ronstadt versions. I was wondering if anyone was aware of any other versions of interest for sentimental reasons.

I thought Steve Cato came across as articulate and sincere, particularly regarding the emotional side of involvement in the scene, in the Channel 4 five minute thing he did a couple of years ago. Although to get an accurate picture I think you would need several people representing different aspects of a varied scene at different times of its history. I don't think anyone can represent a scene that is often quite fractured. I wouldn't want to be represented by a retro oldies view-point, just as perhaps others wouldn't want to be reresented by obscure vinyl addicts. Perhaps a key qualification should be not wanting to do it. My chum Garry Churm has a great pedigree (get it!) for nighters over the last 35 years without a break, but I'd be nervous about his viewpoint.

Lots of Motown examples, obvious ones being Nathan Jones and Jimmy Mack, the famous absconders! edit - late realisation you may be identifying more subtle mentions than titled references, and both male of course. I shouldn't go on here before lunchtime. I'll get my coat, Goodnight Irene!

Told kevH to keep hold of this one. Price is creeping up on ebay although still a cheapie. Wonderful record that seems to have overlooked for a long time. By the way KevH I didn't see a flier for this event:- "I dj'd at home to rapturous applause( and a bottle of red) from the missus.Had no trouble filling the floor,no talc needed at Shatto Holmes.Dancefloor pure laminate. She commented "If you play stuff people want ,you'll be famous one day". Let me know when you're havin another - I'm available to dj Sorry i can't contribute as I was away at V festival all weekend, so not much northern soul there. Needed a soul fix quickly upon return early hours of Monday morning, opted for the more mellow David Hudson - Royal Sessions lp to unwind to. That worked.

Lots of agreement with many above. I don't have Joe Bataan, Call my name, but remember being played it some time ago by a club dj. Loved it then and think I would love it more now. Must look for a copy, but as Mossy says may not be that easy. My shout out may not be so popular but one that has lasted with me for decades and still gets at least a bimonthly turntable outing at home is Gill Scott-Heron / Brian Jackson - Winter in America. Like many in the 70s I only bought this for The Bottle. I remember telling a more senior record colelctor that I'd bought one, he laughed and said "Yeh but the rest is crap aint it". At the time, being dedicated to northern soul I duely overlooked the other tracks as not northern and crap. But over the years the other tracks really grew to be some of my favourite home plays, long outlasting interest in The Bottle. Peace Go With you Brother, Rives of My fathers, A Very Precious Time, Song for Bobby Smith, Your daddy loves you (sentimental play for me and my daughter Molly) sound beautiful to these old ears now. Would be the last Lp I'd part with.

Sat at work so can't play em but I'm comparing Megatons Detroit Sound in my head and thinking, yep I can hear that.. Be intersting to play side by side. Full of information Kev, thanks for all the detail.

One and the same mate, he moves like a whole posse of girls. Lookin forward to the rematch . Agree with the sentiment of your original post, just doing the late night devil's advocate session. Thin line between reason and madness.

The disc was always the better looking of the two!