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You grumpy old Ba*****s Checked with my 23 year old son (who I've never ever dressed up in 70s regalia and taken along to a soul night, although he does threaten to turn up so he see me attempt to dance) who laughed and said "Oh that will just attract the Hipster Mods (a new tribe every week?), you don't want them????
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What Gives A Soul Night Direction - Punters Or Promoters?
Dean replied to Dean's topic in All About the SOUL
Hi Byrney Trying not to identify the night too closely as my thread isn't aimed at one specific night, which was a good attempt at a NOT 100% oldies night. But out of interest I've just had a playlist sent in discussion by pm: Here's a couple: Cynthia & Imaginations - Why Weren’t You There (I Needed You) (Blue Rock) Jackey Beavers - Love That Never Grows Old (Revilot) Silky Hargraves - Keep Loving Me (Like You Do) (Dearborn) That kind of IMO top quality bang on northern soul didn't get much dancefloor action, although as my thread tries to get across they may well have been appreciated by the foot-silent punters around the room. Feet hit the floor in much greater number to Jack Montgomery - My Dear Beloved If you want to do an oldies night in the East Mids you've got some competition! There are a couple of happy exceptions to this that do manage to tread that line of popular sounds mixed with a few lesser played and interesting ones, but that's for another thread. Best wishes -
A work friend purchased a Fred Perry Twisted Wheel Shoulder bag from the Nottingham shop for her daughter to start back to school. "Specially designed edition of the classic shoulder bag, created as part of this season's Twisted Wheel collection. The zipped style is complemented with woven patches featuring motifs and design details inspired by the legendary Northern Soul movement. Complete with our trademark twin tipping detail on the front slip pocket and an adjustable shoulder strap." "A music and dance movement that emerged and prospered during the 1960s and 70s in working class areas of the North, Northern Soul grew out of the underground rhythm and soul scene. Largely overlooked by the mainstream media the movement centred on its followers. The figurehead was the people - the kids who made the weekly pilgrimage to the clubs, the ones who had the best moves, the ones with the sharpest dress sense. It was all about looking good on the dance floor." Sorry for small pic, there's different versions on the Fred Perry website (the subculture tab on the website has some cringing video inteviews on together with cuts from This England, Soul Boy and NS playlist), also there are shirts and vests with the same badges on. My first reaction is FFS, but could such items, attract younger people to explore the music and clubs?
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What Gives A Soul Night Direction - Punters Or Promoters?
Dean replied to Dean's topic in All About the SOUL
Is it later yet Julie x -
What Gives A Soul Night Direction - Punters Or Promoters?
Dean replied to Dean's topic in All About the SOUL
Appreciate your response Scottie, and brings me back to the conversations I was having on Friday (which I know have been mentioned before in threads but then again so has this topic), and I don't think is 'off' the topic started. I'm a bit on the fence and in one mood can argue the point you make about listening to previous sets and taking out previously played records . . . . BUT two things bother me: DJ has a rare original she/he was looking forward to spinning out and previous DJ plays a boot? But more on topic - There was a time when 'breaking sounds' (perhaps for that in current days we could include some underplayed or never played sounds) would be played by the same DJ more than once. I'm guilty of confusing nighters and soul nights now but do wonder if a record was good enough, but not known or at least unfamiliar to the active dancers (one on the floor - all on the floor), would it be worth playing again later? Once to hear and consider, and later to move to. I'm sure I'm far from alone in sometimes staying on the floor when in the mood and dancing (or doing my best) to a record I didn't know and kinda making it up as I went along, fearing for a sudden break, but my experience of oldies nights is that many don't bother with this tactic on the floor. I wouldn't be so patronising as to think I was "educating" someone, more like a second chance to appreciate a good tune? -
What Gives A Soul Night Direction - Punters Or Promoters?
Dean replied to Dean's topic in All About the SOUL
I think that's something I've just got to accept Ian, and that preference is out there in visible number. -
What Gives A Soul Night Direction - Punters Or Promoters?
Dean replied to Dean's topic in All About the SOUL
Agree to some extent Brav, but I don't blame a promoter for being inclusive rather than exclusive in promotion, particularly on the first night. Not related to the event I was at but there can be a question mark over "Across the Board" promotion. I was attracted by the DJ line up, but part of my question relates to the pressure of the more visible masses on those DJs. -
Predicting this will become an oldies V rare/underplayed topic, and if so, so be it, but here goes: At a new Northern Soul event on Friday with a few friends. The DJ line up and the venue were very interesting to to my outlook. If you guess the event it doesn't matter, this isn't a slight at the event, on the whole I thought it was good with a few teething problems. But discussing the night got me to thinking. The event was one room, that room was 70% dancefloor but due to the room layout felt like 90% dancefloor. There's a mixed crowd attending, and here I'm going to make some crass presumptions. There's a good number of bags/ Flaired skirts, beer towels, hold-alls, vests and badges, that I'd associate with a predominantly oldies / NS top 500 night. There's not a record bar but there's a few label fanatic chin strokers (no apology for that one 'cos that includes me), and I'm sure various shades of grey between those two stereo-types. It's a big dance floor venue, it's going to take to a lot of nerve to hold for a DJ to play to a smattering of 2 or 3 dancers. When a Northern Soul 'anthem' comes on the floor fills. I'm enjoying the records that don't get such a dancefloor reaction. I applaud the DJ occasionally to try and show my appreciation but it's a big room. Is this type of event destined to become an oldies / top 500 night due to pressure to play to dance-floor reaction? Is it possible to run a rare/underplayed night (whatever that conjours in your imagination) in a venue with a half-empy (at best) dancefloor? I recall when we were running The Attic some guy said to me "It's good but look at floor, you can't be playing to an empty floor at 10pm", we thought we could, in the long run perhaps we were wrong. Is there a silent (as in not noticeable as a dance-floor group) crowd enjoying the tunes that don't pull the 'oldies' crowd onto the floor? I'll give that to the "oldies" crowd, it's certainly one on the floor, all on the floor! I realise NS was predominantly a dance scene more than a soul music scene, but then it was a nighter scene with soul nights (often mid-week) as an introduction to some and social catch up to the initiated. Soul Nights are so much more abundant these days, with their direction driven often by dancefloor reaction.
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Am I in dim place and not getting this (always possible), but a few of those top acts who are expected on the day may have a long long way to travel?
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Unless yours looks like " a tarantula on it's wedding night" (love that description) Ted, it could be a photo label on a boot Only kidding Ted
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got a boxful somewhere, I'll see if i can get time and get scanning, Dean
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On the decks for Steve Cato at The Bedroom gig in that there London, coincided with Steve being filmed for that Channel 4 five min documentary. Mid way through my spot TV tech came and took his extension lead back. The whole system went off. Don't think many people noticed! Proper lost the floor at that point.
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The other side (A side) Baby I got To Cut You Loose also picked up some plays a while back Billy, that side may be worth a spin too.
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Wanted: Jobete/motown Acetates And Frances Nero - Keep On Loving Me
Dean replied to thomas96's topic in Record Wants
Check in Sales, Marc Forrest selling some good stuff regarding acetates -
I thought I may be able to shed some light on this, but am not confident now. I thought I had a boot (by way of being purchased from a Mansfield shop in the 70s that had many boots pinned up on the wall) and an orig (by way of being purchased as such from a reputable USA dealer). I don't think i've bothered comparing these, as mentioned above not an expensive record so no urgency in my mind. Saw this thread and thought I'd check to see if I could help? Both have exactly the same run-out as referred to above. JM 5th Ed has one down as a second press and mentions poor label print. That fits in with what I'm looking at that I presumed was a boot. The label is pitted. This is what I think is 2nd press or boot. Pitted label, LH-9016 ST is above B&B on label, similar on COD flip. ALSO NOTE PRODUCED BY / HORN ARR BY IS WITHIN LABEL TRAMLINE DESIGN This is what I think is a first press/ orig. Label smooth, deeper blue (not really clear on pic but heading more towaqrds a midnight /ink blue than ble of other label. NOTE THE INFO OUTSIDE OF TRAMLINE DESIGN. Mama's baby run out detail is at 11-0-Clock, COD run out info is at 2 to 3-0-Clock Hope that's useful.
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This is nothing more than cathartic spleen venting. Was watching several of Thatgirl75 sales on ebay, I'm sure several of us were, some good items. Got about 4 but the one I wanted was Mr Tears (Paris) - Excuse Me Baby. Did that stupid error of getting distracted by a woman and missed it by a few minutes, went for about £12, bargain. Only one thing to do, get out a box and play, and this came out. Sat with the doors open grinding my teath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSiSDyxbQtE Joe Simon - Long Hot Summer
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Whats A Realistic Value On A Copy Of Fabulous Jades On Lennan
Dean replied to Phil Shields's topic in Look At Your Box
You can have my Emisidc for £500 . . . . bargain! -
Whats A Realistic Value On A Copy Of Fabulous Jades On Lennan
Dean replied to Phil Shields's topic in Look At Your Box
Not sure of value Phil, depends what site it's on, would suspect around £700, but that's a guess! More a historic interest for me as I got an EMI disc of this about 40 years ago when I was 15/16, first one I ever bought, from a local Mansfield Northern DJ called Eric Hetherington (not sure of spelling could be Etherington), it was covered on the EMIdisc as Tempos, don't know if was covered as that in clubs prior to my interest, took me a long time to realise it was Lil lavair & Jades as it sounds quicker on the emidisc I have. Still got the disc now, just for sentimentality. -
This always conjurs for me visions of 70s heatwave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpn4D5L67QI Apart from the starting lyrics, the laid back style oooozes heat, and I absolutely love the track, Bill Withers Harlem
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My apologies, returned home from holiday, it's Way 1000 The Sensations - Lonely World, that I was thinking of regarding having demo and issue. I've got an issue of Way 1001 The Soul Notes - How Long Will It last / Don't Make Me Beg, but that will be staying with me. I still think I have a spare somewhere but it was the Sensations records that I was picturing in my mind. I think there may be a worse condition one tucked away in a sales box somewhere (always intending to get round to selling more and never do). I'll have a sort around and see if I can find it (or if I'm remebering wrong again). Sorry for confusing but will have a look, Dean.
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Not at home until Sat, may have issue and demo, check then And let you know. Dean
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Taking liberties here with people in pics: I'm sure this is in the foyer between balcony and Ms, between the doors And this is (as is obvious) by the decks in Ms Now who can guess the characters (second pic obviously an early Rohypnol fiend!)
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Issue is a good clean Ex (with some label bubble) £40 Demo is VG with minor scuffs £30 Price on popsike varies between £20 and £200!! Bit of variation there. Not desparate to sell so up to you, also no offence taken if anyone wants to come in with a lower price sale.Dean
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35 Years Ago! Searling Playlist Wigan 10/11 June 1978
Dean replied to Dean's topic in All About the SOUL
Found a few tapes, subjecting a 17 and 22 year old to the grainy distant sound over dinner From 17/18 April 1978, Obviously lots similar to above so won't list track listing, just a few that don't feature above: Lou Roberts - Everything You Always Wanted to Know about Love Rufus Lumley - I'm in Love Again June Jackson - It's Whats Underneath That Counts Joey Heatherton - When You Call Me Baby Eddie Garrigan - I Wish I Was Phil Coulter - A Good Thing Going Halos - Come Softly To Me Burning Bush - Keeps on Burning Babay Dolls - Got to Get You Into My Life Wakefield Sun (Eddie Jason) - Trypt On Love Construction (Del Capris) - Hey Little Way Out Girl Tim Tam & The Turn Ons - Wait A Minute Spyders Gang (Top Shelf) - Wait in Line I think the next one is Nov '78, if I remember I'll list that in Nov for 35 years from the date. By that time it does include Joe Matthews - I Don't Like to Lose, -
Got an issue and demo Forris woods on Abbott, can part with one. I'll check condition later (may be tomorrow), from memory issue is better than VG+ around Ex, demo is slightly less around VG+, but will need to check. Do you have any preference of issue / demo? Dean