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I'll sell you one Pete half Price

Postage to Uk £2, Europe £4, rest of world £5, first class, nothing here worth recorded delivery! 2 or 3 for 1 postage on multi-buys. Gene and Jerry, You Just Can't Win, Mercury (This is Gene Chandler and Jerry Butler) Ex Tyrone Davis, I Wanna Be Good Company, Hit Sound VG Joe Jeffrey, The Train, Wand VG- Clarence Reid, I Refuse To Give Up, wand VG+ Nino Tempo & 5th Ave Sax, Sister James, A&M VG+The Glories, I Stand Accused, date Radio Station copy VG+ (Ex but for 4 small x on label) Johnny And The Expressions, Boys and Girls Together, josie VG+ £2 each record, just need some space so starting to clear out. State on thread or pm if wanted. Paypal preferred.

Didn't expect Ellen & The Shandels to go for that!

I'm sure I recall that

Apologies if I'm posting too many, but had to get this rather obvious one in . . . . . been to too many funerals over the last few years. Hard to not quote the whole song for this, and is there anyone who has been on a floor just before daybreak who thought this song wasn't just for them, and felt moved to their bones: "As I sit here looking at the street, little figures quickly moving feet, I'm just a pebble on the beach and I sit and wonder why, Little people running around never knowing why, Life is just a precious minute baby . . . . . . . " You really could just quote the whole song. Tobi Legen - Time Will Pass You By Heart rendering lyrical beatifully performed lyrics with passion and sincerity

Ernie i agree with the spirit of your rant, but £750 for Mel Britt ? ? ? My ceiling is around £300 but I'd look twice at a Mel Britt for £750

I was thinking of that one too but I could keep going too long . . . . good call though

I'll grab another bite at this cherry! Prepared to be honest . . . Been reading a bit at the moment about whilst venues like wigan were not the place for "picking-up" the opposite sex, many relationships came out of long-term friendships and mutual experiences: It would be 1981, a long friendship with Cathy (second name witheld out of respect!) led to a longer affair and relationship that all began with these words: "Yah!, So we share our lovers embraces, Yah! In the dark of hidaway places, Yah! Where no eyes recognise our faces, Me here hiding lying, But these Stolen Hours are such golden hours, I'd be willing to pay any price for these moments of our paradise" Patrice Holloway - Stolen Hours. Also reminds me of JB (Phil Woods RIP), who smiled at the significance of that with me every time we heard it after those times. And for a brief time paradise it was, all-nighters and stolen passion, . . . . . . still in touch after all these decades, that's the scene we had/have. Some apology for the sentimentality, but only a half-hearted apology. The lyrics of these songs have been the soundtrack to our lives.

I'll grab an obvious one before anyone else does: a) "You've had your warning, Now I'm leaving walking away from you, HA! I don't want no woman always telling me what to do, if you think you're the boss I'll show you what I can do . . . . . " b) I'm Gone Eddie Parker C) Aged 54, moved in with my partner of a few years just 5 weeks ago. Successfully raised son (aged 23) daughter (17), by successful I mean well balanced human beings with respect for all. Fiercely independent lifestyle over many years, lots of partners some good, some not so. Losing myself in this tune on a floor felt like justifying my existence at different times. Hoping now my partner is cool with the 7" brown packages that will be dropping through our shared door! d) Not sure what you mean here, name and location of where the tune meant most? Any nighter with space on floor, but does have a special memeory of a quieter night at wigan, with space on the floor, having recently left a relationship.

I think this is rarer than generally thought on Etah, I was searching for a while to pick one up (thaks to SteveL for the text that put me onto one), never even seen one on columbia in the flesh (or in the vinyl so to speak). Must have spent 3 years looking on lists and name search on ebay, came across only 3 or 4 Etah issues during that time, one battered.

Not if you keep on eating those breakfasts!

Not sure if I'm responding correctly Sylvia as it's not clear what post you're referring to. If it's to the thread in general, I wasn't trying to interpret the soul scene. There's not enough therapists for that one. Old order of dancers? Not sure about that? New order who play rare and underplayed, not sure about that too? I'm not generalising on age and experience, more on outlook, which I acknowledge is a fairly crass generalisation in itself. Your point about venue is well made, which is part of the the discussion behind this question posed int he first post: "Is it possible to run a rare/underplayed night (whatever that conjours in your imagination) in a venue with a half-empy (at best) dancefloor?" It's my opinion that many collectors /Djs have been or in some cases (god bless Joan) still are dancers. That's most people's roots in this scene, just at different times. I don't lump all soulies together (if your comments refer to the post at the start of the thread), it's more about recognising the different tribes and interests attending soul nights. I do acknowledge making some assumtions though "There's a mixed crowd attending, and here I'm going to make some crass presumptions". Whilst there will always be exceptions I think there is a strong link between those wearing an NS uniform as identification and a greater appreciation of top 500 type oldies. And before you baggie wearing folk jump to your keyboards, of course there are exceptions, and there are those within that style group who have long impeccable history and credentials. The night that sparked this discussion played many many great tunes, I could not find a complaint in me about the music played. The thread isn't about one night. It's a question as to whether rare/underplayed nights can sustain themselves in a dancehall venue, and the counter culture side of that discussion as to whether, because of the (my presumption) inevitable presssure to play to a floor, with the prominence (whilst not exclusive!) of a retro-clothed dance scene in strong number preferring to dance to top 500 type oldies, dancefloor venues will gravitate to an oldies playlist? I think there's some good strong points made in the posts above about how an event is promoted, and the tenacity of promoters to stick to their intention. Look, nobody is going to go to Mick H's Up front Rare Nottingham Trentside day/nights and expect to hear top 500. Mick H is big enough (reputation and physical!) to not waver on that. Lifeline nighters - you know what you were going to get, and other more up front soul nights/nighters (don't want to try and run through a list). But there's a host of soul nights out there that may struggle between intentions, attendance, and dance floor reactions. I think it can difficult to play less well known tunes, but bloody good tunes, to emptyish floors thinking / hoping that those not dancing are still enjoying the soul of the music. It then becomes too easy to put the same oldie on again and feel good for filling the floor, ignoring the vast wealth of really good quality soulful tunes that are buried in boxes whilst we drop and spin to the same tunes over and over again. I wonder if this will make sense in the morning, just back from Goodies 50th birthday and a few beers at the John Cockle Mansfield, oldies central

Don't say that buddy, it's just going to make for an embarrassed silence when you get one for Christmas along with your Northern Soul dancing lessons i'm saving up for to buy you.

Just to validate the discussion, I've had a really good pm conversation around this on the back of this thread, which included this comment about a soul night: Started with planned set, played 4 or 5 and then ditched that based not so much on dance floor but on comments from punters coming up to the stage - requests for ********** etc. and quite a bit of "can you play something we know". So - I didn’t play most of what I intended to. Thought it was an interesting comment to add to discussion that I'm sure we've all heard of at some time? I'm sure we could question how the night was advertised, but given the DJs this night would in my mind have not been an expected top 500 oldies night.

We're onto degrees of numptiness now. At some age we should have developed more discerning tastes. Young Hipster Mods (get me) buying a bag is like me wearing high waistband pleated multi zipped Oxford bags at 15 / 16. Thought I was cool and with the in-crowd! At that time Hipsters were what the girls who always ignored me wore. Not convinced I can adequately argue the case for either numpty after the age of 20!

You grumpy old Ba*****s Checked with my 23 year old son (who I've never ever dressed up in 70s regalia and taken along to a soul night, although he does threaten to turn up so he see me attempt to dance) who laughed and said "Oh that will just attract the Hipster Mods (a new tribe every week?), you don't want them????

Hi Byrney Trying not to identify the night too closely as my thread isn't aimed at one specific night, which was a good attempt at a NOT 100% oldies night. But out of interest I've just had a playlist sent in discussion by pm: Here's a couple: Cynthia & Imaginations - Why Weren’t You There (I Needed You) (Blue Rock) Jackey Beavers - Love That Never Grows Old (Revilot) Silky Hargraves - Keep Loving Me (Like You Do) (Dearborn) That kind of IMO top quality bang on northern soul didn't get much dancefloor action, although as my thread tries to get across they may well have been appreciated by the foot-silent punters around the room. Feet hit the floor in much greater number to Jack Montgomery - My Dear Beloved If you want to do an oldies night in the East Mids you've got some competition! There are a couple of happy exceptions to this that do manage to tread that line of popular sounds mixed with a few lesser played and interesting ones, but that's for another thread. Best wishes

A work friend purchased a Fred Perry Twisted Wheel Shoulder bag from the Nottingham shop for her daughter to start back to school. "Specially designed edition of the classic shoulder bag, created as part of this season's Twisted Wheel collection. The zipped style is complemented with woven patches featuring motifs and design details inspired by the legendary Northern Soul movement. Complete with our trademark twin tipping detail on the front slip pocket and an adjustable shoulder strap." "A music and dance movement that emerged and prospered during the 1960s and 70s in working class areas of the North, Northern Soul grew out of the underground rhythm and soul scene. Largely overlooked by the mainstream media the movement centred on its followers. The figurehead was the people - the kids who made the weekly pilgrimage to the clubs, the ones who had the best moves, the ones with the sharpest dress sense. It was all about looking good on the dance floor." Sorry for small pic, there's different versions on the Fred Perry website (the subculture tab on the website has some cringing video inteviews on together with cuts from This England, Soul Boy and NS playlist), also there are shirts and vests with the same badges on. My first reaction is FFS, but could such items, attract younger people to explore the music and clubs?

Is it later yet Julie x

Appreciate your response Scottie, and brings me back to the conversations I was having on Friday (which I know have been mentioned before in threads but then again so has this topic), and I don't think is 'off' the topic started. I'm a bit on the fence and in one mood can argue the point you make about listening to previous sets and taking out previously played records . . . . BUT two things bother me: DJ has a rare original she/he was looking forward to spinning out and previous DJ plays a boot? But more on topic - There was a time when 'breaking sounds' (perhaps for that in current days we could include some underplayed or never played sounds) would be played by the same DJ more than once. I'm guilty of confusing nighters and soul nights now but do wonder if a record was good enough, but not known or at least unfamiliar to the active dancers (one on the floor - all on the floor), would it be worth playing again later? Once to hear and consider, and later to move to. I'm sure I'm far from alone in sometimes staying on the floor when in the mood and dancing (or doing my best) to a record I didn't know and kinda making it up as I went along, fearing for a sudden break, but my experience of oldies nights is that many don't bother with this tactic on the floor. I wouldn't be so patronising as to think I was "educating" someone, more like a second chance to appreciate a good tune?

I think that's something I've just got to accept Ian, and that preference is out there in visible number.

Agree to some extent Brav, but I don't blame a promoter for being inclusive rather than exclusive in promotion, particularly on the first night. Not related to the event I was at but there can be a question mark over "Across the Board" promotion. I was attracted by the DJ line up, but part of my question relates to the pressure of the more visible masses on those DJs.

Predicting this will become an oldies V rare/underplayed topic, and if so, so be it, but here goes: At a new Northern Soul event on Friday with a few friends. The DJ line up and the venue were very interesting to to my outlook. If you guess the event it doesn't matter, this isn't a slight at the event, on the whole I thought it was good with a few teething problems. But discussing the night got me to thinking. The event was one room, that room was 70% dancefloor but due to the room layout felt like 90% dancefloor. There's a mixed crowd attending, and here I'm going to make some crass presumptions. There's a good number of bags/ Flaired skirts, beer towels, hold-alls, vests and badges, that I'd associate with a predominantly oldies / NS top 500 night. There's not a record bar but there's a few label fanatic chin strokers (no apology for that one 'cos that includes me), and I'm sure various shades of grey between those two stereo-types. It's a big dance floor venue, it's going to take to a lot of nerve to hold for a DJ to play to a smattering of 2 or 3 dancers. When a Northern Soul 'anthem' comes on the floor fills. I'm enjoying the records that don't get such a dancefloor reaction. I applaud the DJ occasionally to try and show my appreciation but it's a big room. Is this type of event destined to become an oldies / top 500 night due to pressure to play to dance-floor reaction? Is it possible to run a rare/underplayed night (whatever that conjours in your imagination) in a venue with a half-empy (at best) dancefloor? I recall when we were running The Attic some guy said to me "It's good but look at floor, you can't be playing to an empty floor at 10pm", we thought we could, in the long run perhaps we were wrong. Is there a silent (as in not noticeable as a dance-floor group) crowd enjoying the tunes that don't pull the 'oldies' crowd onto the floor? I'll give that to the "oldies" crowd, it's certainly one on the floor, all on the floor! I realise NS was predominantly a dance scene more than a soul music scene, but then it was a nighter scene with soul nights (often mid-week) as an introduction to some and social catch up to the initiated. Soul Nights are so much more abundant these days, with their direction driven often by dancefloor reaction.

Am I in dim place and not getting this (always possible), but a few of those top acts who are expected on the day may have a long long way to travel?

Unless yours looks like " a tarantula on it's wedding night" (love that description) Ted, it could be a photo label on a boot Only kidding Ted