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maybe it's by flip wilson and that's the number listed as "flick wilson"? I have to check.

I have that comedy EP, I forget who it's by, red foxx? the 380 titles that I've never seen (doesn't mean they don't exist, I haven't been looking for them) are the titus turner and flick wilson.

how has nobody mentioned Bridges/Eaton/Knight?

Although he doesn't get much credit, Emmett Gardner (VP of Curtom, previously singer in the Trends) was a big regional A&R man. He worked for London records and he was one of the people responsible for breaking Al Green.

Altgeld is within the city limits btw, it's not in a suburb. I have no idea who the group was. There were a ton of different groups that clarence had that didn't record or that recorded but never released material. Why do you keep referring to Johnny Cameron as a producer? I think he was just an arranger. I don't think he was an owner in Lock. Lock was owned by -- Lucky Cordell, Ed O'Kelley, Clarence Johnson, Kenny Wells. Kenny's main artist was Lee Sain. Lucky Cordell was a silent partner. Ed O'Kelly was the guy who previously owned Teako.

I don't think Gandy was in a group btw.

This was a hit in Chicago. It was written by Chris Bernard Allen. He was an original member of the Shades of Brown (he left before they recorded) and was from Altgeld gardens, which is the housing at the southern border of the city, like 130th and cottage grove. I always assumed Gandy was from there but I don't know for sure. I doubt it had a local release before Roulette (although there are some very rare Lock related records so I guess there's a tiny possibility it got pressed but I doubt it). I talked to someone once who said they produced a Jimmy Gandy record in the '70s but never released it. There is a cover of this song on the B-side of the North South East West single on 20th century. There was a previously unreleased version by the lovelites that clarence put on the CD he released a while back.

It definitely didn't in the US, don't know about any foreign countries. Probably not.

A few things: 1. R&B time was a hit in Chicago. E Rodney Jones himself probably played it a lot. It is much more common to find R&B time in Chicago than Bobby Treetop. DJ rapping over instrumental records were big at the time (and not just in Chicago). Lucky Cordell had a bunch of them. Herb Kent did a similar thing to E Rodney Jones -- the Jackie and Tut record that originally came out on the Dawn label (Jackie Edwards and Emmett "Tut" Sutton btw) had their vocals stripped for the chess release and Herb Kent rapped over that. Butterball Crane had one too. Probably at least one more Chicago DJ had a "rap" record. 2. This record could have been a second press to get into other people's hands who wanted a copy. It could have been some of the other things suggested by other people in this thread. However, I seriously doubt it was pressed to satisfy UK demand. 3. E Rodney Jones spent most of his career at WVON. By 1970 he was program director and was for a long time.

Is it an identical track or a "jacked" track where they replayed it? I know of one more example where they stole the track / arrangement without the actual recording. Big Jim's Border Crossing on Zanzee rips off the Cheers on Okeh.

there's also the WNOV comps which look identical and are confusing if you don't know WNOV was the Milwaukee version of WVON

I also have my scanner hooked up now btw but it puts a bunch of ugly blue lines on scans that you will not be able to photoshop out easily. Do you want a scan of that record?

I have the two trans-sisters on imperial and their rare one on pickwick city. I got the pickwick record from a UK dealer a long time ago. I played it and both sides played some crappy white male rock band. So I figured the pickwick city record was just a mislisting of a different group and the few times I had seen it for sale since I laughed whenever someone bought the record. Then the last time I see it on ebay there's two bidders and it goes for over $1000! I was like WTF, I assumed they were Lou Reed / VU collectors since there is supposed to be some Lou Reed involvement. Then I found out that the record really *is* a female soul record and my copy is a mispress of some totally different rock record (don't know what it is) and that I missed the few opportunities that came up to buy a real copy.

oh yeah? well mine arrived and it was mint++ I think items like this are funny because people always assume that rarity means it's some weird early promo press or something, when it could be a random later bootleg pressed in limited amounts.

I won the one that was on ebay, I never saw it before. It's 400 pounds in the manship guide.

I really appreciate the offer -- I just finished illegally downloading it though. For law enforcement types out there, here is proof of ownership:

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I learn about at least a few new records (not necessarily good records) every day. So these were two good records I didn't know (esp. the soul generation).

I could be wrong, I didn't re-listen before posting. Just posting what I remember from comparing back to back a long time ago. I would think your question would still be valid, about uncredited stealing, who did it first, etc.

right on, sweet soul dudes take over this thread... this: and the real tony clarke record https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k49wAY4oi50

excellent show, you have good taste brian. I even heard a couple things I didn't know -- Lori and Lance on federal and the soul generation on sticky. I bought a copy of the soul generation but the lori and lance is online for like $100. it's not actually worth that much is it? sounds more like a $50 or less record to me... do you actually have the topics on noodle with the correct spelling ("topics")? the record is already rare as the "tropics" on noodle, but even rarer as the "topics". It's the same group as on carnival, chadwick, mercury, etc.

mp3s of the show: https://rapidshare.com/files/1263170252/flanny-1.mp3? https://rapidshare.com/files/2498465799/flanny-2.mp3?

I actually have that CD, I have a huge bag of CDs that I bring to my radio show in case someone requests something or if the next DJ doesn't show up (before people flip out every other thing i play is 45s). Anyways, I opened it up a few weeks ago and the CD was cracked in half, I was pissed.

thanks! will check it out.

yeah would love to hear an archived version of this. if someone has a recording they could mp3, they could upload to divshare or some other side for free.