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I don't necessarily think his music didn't hit because of lack of promotion. The closest comparison is Bill Withers but Callier's music was more sophisticated than Withers'. Similarly, I just compared Jerry Butler's version of "ordinary joe" to Callier's and although Butler's is made much more mainstream sounding, it ultimately is kind of boring. Richie Havens' music was also much more pop. Fortunately Callier's music wasn't as obscure as some people think -- he was "known" by soul/funk LP collectors for a very long time before he was "discovered" by the northern scene.

i didn't know that, although it makes sense. very glad that callier re-cut it, probably sounded similar to his demo, with a little backing added. butler's version isn't really memorable.

what does "utilizes ordinary joe" mean? overall the song is reminiscent of ordinary joe, or are you saying something more specific? thanks.

weird, it's been philly-tized overall this is a very obscure track wrt mainstream r&b so it's not something like "ain't no sunshine" where there would be a million covers

despite the almost amusing spazzy dancing, dude is very wack

2 out of 3 correct isn't bad

you learn something new every day!

nice, i don't think i've even seen it on a promo. thanks for the info, will try to dig out this copy.

I definitely have a spare of this but have no idea on the current value. Anyone have any idea?

Ben Boyce also produced new york artists Johnny and the Expressions

lots of copies on ebay. "mojo boneyard" had 3 unplayed copies up yesterday but i guess someone bought them all.

Thanks for the post, moving to Look At Your Box given that this is 45 related. I don't think this exists on Musicor. But who knows, there were some very rare releases on the label for some reason -- for example, the Reactions 45 which is rarer on Dynamo than on the local Sanfris label. In this case they probably inked a deal but it was never released.

Just posted this on another forum -- one thing that doesn't get mentioned much is that he wrote the entire Dells "Sweet as funk can be" concept-ish album.

one of the top ones:

I've seen that article before. Seriously underacknowledged songwriting team. It wasn't until recently reading that article that I even knew the first names of Baum and Giant. "flashback" / "you pulled a fast one" by the VIPs (huge record in Chicago) was a masterpiece and I love the Persians "gotta get ahold of yourself".

There are two sunrise movement 45s (as posted above). Lenny Mayes was the lead singer -- obviously more famous as a member of the Dramatics and who unfortunately passed away a few years ago.

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sorry i have been really busy and have not had a chance to put in more info, I will try to later today. It would help if you made up a list with all the jerry-o/larry-o/boo-ga-loo/double soul 45s in label # order (and excluded the major label things), I might notice something and be able to fill in holes. I will try to scan the scoop sanders also. I actually looked at the deadwax of all the major label numbers to see if there might be some missing number in the deadwax but they all appeared to be mastered and repressed by the labels themselves and only had markings of the major label. Thanks.

there are 3 white whale jerryo 45s. the 466# has a more fitting number in the dead wax. one of the dukays 45 came with an alternate flip. there is a bernie hayes 45 on double soul (which I think got picked up by a bigger label, like mala).

Ok these are less than perfect copies at bargain prices. They have the opposite problems of each other. The Carol Mogan record is visually in bad condition. The vinyl is beat up. There are still no feelable scratches and it has some gloss. The label has wear / fading and has a signature in pen written several places on each side. All the text on the label is readable. Despite all of the visual problems, it is a decent play copy. Here is a full recording of both sides: https://www.divshare.com/download/20208297-aea The Vondells record has the opposite problem. Visually it is a pretty nice copy, the styrene is pretty nice, at least VG and probably better, and the label has ring wear but no other problems. However, it is styrene burnt. It plays fine with a *MONO* cartridge. I specifically bought it so I could get a recording of the ballad side (which is awesome btw). I played both sides at a friend's house with a mono cartridge and it plays fine (unfortunately he wouldn't let me borrow the cartridge to make the recording I wanted). However, it plays with styrene burn with a regular cartridge. Here is a recording made with a conical cartridge (shure white label): https://www.divshare.com/download/20208312-2b1 here is the same recording mixed to mono (NOT THE SAME AS USING A MONO CARTRIDGE). It significantly diminishes the burn noise and makes it "DJable", depending on what your standards are: https://www.divshare.com/download/20208464-e8f So if on your mixer you have some way of mixing the stereo channels to mono, you could DJ with a regular conical cartridge. Or you could buy a mono cartridge and use it just on this record -- it still would be significantly cheaper than buying a clean copy. The reason it plays fine on a mono cartridge is that the needle on a mono cart rides higher in the groove, and in this case it is hitting a less damaged part. I paid $200 for the Mogan and $400 for the Vondells (as personal copies, a while ago) and at this point would like to get my money back. It's possible that some people want these more than others... So I will do this. The highest bid over $200 on the Mogan and $400 on the Vondells in 24 hours will get the record. If nobody wants to pay over, the first person that PMed me asking for either record at the given price will get it. I won't sell for less than these prices (please don't offer) but I will consider trades of rare group soul (northern probably, it would have to be a pretty rare ballad record otherwise). I'm also selling these as is, I feel that I'm accurately representing these as less than perfect copies and have provided full audio. I'm an honest person and a regular on here, not some random dude coming out of nowhere. If I have time I will hook up my scanner (I'm having some issues...) and put up scans. Thank you. Paypal only, gift is nice but not required, shipping to US $2.50, shipping overseas $7.

I guess 108 is also the Ideals on Boo-Ga-Loo I don't have the mighty lovers on Boo-Ga-Loo, 109 might be in the deadwax

also, there appears to be two #107s, there is the Maurice Miller Trio on Jerry-O and then the E Rodney Jones and Larry and the Hippies Band on Double Soul #107

also, the L that changed Jerry-O to Larry-O is probably Larry Blasingaine. My number I had is old, I have to try to figure out who would have his new number.

also, there's that scoop sanders, never noticed there were 2 #112s. I looked at the deadwax of both just now to see if one might be a missing number mislabeled but it appears not