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MODERATION NOTE: Please don't continue this discussion on this thread. The original post doesn't really add anything (e.g. it is equivalent to posting "this song songs" on a thread about a song you don't like), and the response insulting the poster ups the ante. There is at least something positive in this thread that would be derailed by a petty side argument. Garv, if you feel the need to make some sort of deeper point, feel free to start another thread, and please don't be insulted. Thanks.

I'm pretty sure his book is not auto-generated via queries from a database

Youtube won't do anything, it won't recognize the song. It uses audio fingerprinting to recognize the specific recording. Another version of a famous song won't get any special youtube treatment or get taken down because the recording won't be recognized (e.g. it's not looking for the underlying song). It's no different than if you sang the song yourself into your laptop and posted it.

not saying anything about the book, but have you noticed popsike has been losing tons of data recently? it's becoming way less useful. collectorsfrenzy still doesn't search descriptions. i might eventually have to pay for that stupid worthpoint site (even though it is fairly new so doesn't have much back data).

i'm confused by "if publishing was never applied for" and then the songs being covers of well known songs. Publishing only applies to the songs, not the recording. The well known songs were most likely published. what are you trying to do with the recording or find out?

I worked as a database programmer for over 15 years. Access isn't really an option unless someone put a custom web interface together for it and host the app somewhere, it's not trivial. There is more than just a data / design issue, there is also a collaboration issue. You could potentially create 26 google docs spreadsheets (as you suggest) and share them; that solves the collaboration problem.

They are effectively set in stone if people use the books as bibles and set their prices based on the book, no matter how many times he says they are guides. Almost no dealer that is the target market knows that the prices are supposed to include VAT and are for only mint records from a top dealer. Either way, this isn't a criticism of manship. I'm glad he was able to put a large discography together and it's a good business move given the paranoia of US dealers giving up rare northern 45s for nothing -- he has a huge potential market. Another positive is that he doesn't really steal information from other sources like certain other books do, so at least the books are not filled with BS listings and misinformation. Thinking about it, that actually is one of the most positive things about the book. I think he generally only lists things that he has physically had or at least seen. I think he should get a good US distributor that US dealers can buy from, especially given the hefty shipping costs of a heavy book.

a spreadsheet cannot reasonably handle that amount of data. you could specifically use google docs to share a spreadsheet with multiple users. I have a google doc with about 5000 lines and that is slow and clunky. You need a real database to deal with any real amount of data. I think Excel even used to have a 65536 row limit until relatively recent versions.

ok thanks. that also is in line with what was posted above. thanks again.

ok, if there's about the same number of listings per page then that answers my question. thank you.

no, neither side of the record, I do it on the edge.

nobody has answered the question as to how many times more listings there are in vol 6 compared to vol 5. that's the main reason i'd consider buying it.

I've heard people say to heat up a needle and burn like an x in to the crack. i was never successful with that, i heat up a fork on the stove and lightly push the fork into the edge of the crack. it creates a tiny dent which you can actually shape back if you care by then using the fork on the edges of the record. but that seems to weaken the hold. i recently got a record that I think had a fixed crack, it was impressive technique. the person clearly used a needle to burn three tiny lines together on each side in the run in groove. it was super strong.

you can do things to stabilize it. most involve burning the edge of the record in different ways so the vinyl melts together. i'm just saying i would only do so if it fits perfectly in place because otherwise you are securing something that isn't straight anyways.

that's not exactly what he said. this is what he said. I don't think he was trying to trick people, it sounds like he doesn't know and he didn't want to make a specific claim. he answered people's questions precisely too. Reissues vs Originals: Unless I know for sure, I will not describe a record as a reissue or original. I will provide a clear closeup photo of the label along with everything written in the vinyl trailoff. Hopefully, if crucial for you, you will be able to make your own determination. Questions are always welcome.

probably not reasonable for overseas but when I last moved I bought a bunch of bags unlimited 45 boxes in one of the quantities that has a price break: https://www.bagsunlimited.com/c-280-storage-boxes.aspx even with the "really useful boxes", although they might keep general wetness out, I doubt they are air tight to be humidity proof. I actually run a dehumidifier in my record room now. it depends on where you live i guess, it probably never is humid in the UK...

if you can't snap it in perfectly (which is unusual, you did push on the crack while it was on the platter right?) I would avoid playing with it more and just be careful.

there are ways to prevent the crack from progressing further. but does it snap back in in a way that the crack is temporarily not visible? put the record on the turntable so it's flat, push in at the point of the crack. Do the grooves line up so there is no click when playing, or is it cracked in such a way that that it's out of shape and that can't happen?

it might not have been worth it with regard to cost for him, it wouldn't be a cheap custom thing to set up.

edit: no problem!

this is probably much closer to reality than you think

yes, I was asking what formed your opinion since you didn't give detail. Thanks for elaborating. I agree with pretty much everything you say. I agree it is lame and a big negative that people use the guide as a bible and that it ends up setting the prices, even though it is supposedly a "guide". And it is mostly overpriced. But it still has some value to me, mainly as a bootleg guide, and even if you and your friends know all the prices it still has some value as another source of (relative) prices. Of course it might not be worth it for that to you. Also, if most of the items go for 50% less than the book (for example), you could just knock 50% off the price and use that as a guide. One of the reasons the book is interesting to me is if it contains a large amount of listings. I am not interested in the price of the in demanders or well known northern cuts, that information is easily available via various online and real life sources. I mainly collect oddball stuff so, for example, seeing if some obscure group has a second record and seeing how one dealer (Manship) values the two releases against each other would be interesting information to me.

CHICAGO IS STILL #1

None of them have accounts / post here (Manship used to).

overrated by whom? that's like saying you gave up on wikipedia because there was incorrect information. I think if the book has a large amount of discographical information, and if it gives you at least some idea of relative prices, even if not totally accurate, and if it doesn't cost hundreds of dollars, it has some value. Of course it's not 100% accurate, the question is whether it's worth the cost of buying it. What made you determine that it was worthless to you or at least not worth the cost? that said, I mainly only open up guide 5 for bootleg information, but I already have a large collection with most of the records I would want either a) in my collection b) already on my want list or c) "undiscovered" records that wouldn't be in the guide anyways. But getting burned on one bootleg pretty much equates to the cost of the guide so it's still worth the cost to me.