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Thanks for the tip. Is "windowlene" (not available in the US) pretty much equivalent to anything labeled "glass cleaner" or is it special? Also, how is it applied / taken off? I assume the dude just sprays it on. Does he use a VPI to scrub it and vacuum it off or can you use a cloth, etc? I know people who use glass cleaner to clean regular vinyl and styrene.

reissue was done by Tony Janda (RIP)

Also, I think it might mean doing 69 years in prison but that doesn't make much sense either. EDIT: that has to be what it is, they just picked that because it rhymed.

Awesome record, never heard that before. I have no idea on that ending though, i'm asking an older dude who collects 50s r&b if it meant something non-sexual.

here is the howling wolf song. it never meant anal sex, even as a double entendre, when this song came out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTAc62476f4

Some people on my radio show were requesting major lance and I wanted to always have a best-of type CD around so I could play it. I stole one, it was a torrent for some japanese best of CD from the early 80s. I used it that day to play someone's request on the radio and it was a totally different version that I had never heard before. It had the same sound / style of the Okeh recordings but I think it was actually an artist rerecording from the 80s. Anyone know this CD? It was interesting because I would think there would be some northern interest, I think he had recorded some tracks that he may not have recorded initially or that were different sounding and would be of possible interest. No synthesizers or anything like that.

also, you may have just been joking, but there have been a bunch of threads on here about some pretty clear slang, e.g., "you got my nose wide open", so i just wanted to make sure it was clear to everyone and not something that got lost in translation going overseas.

he is not saying what you think he's saying. it's a reference to "back door man", which was slang at that point and originally a howling wolf song from the early 60s. he's begging for her to cheat on her current guy with him. i've listened to this song dozens of times and heard that line and never read it about asking his girl to let him have anal sex, which doesn't even make sense in the context of the song of the woman leaving. say a woman is leaving you for another man and you're begging for her to come back. is that one of the lines you would use? it doesn't make sense, but the howling wolf reference does.

I got ripped off years ago. It was during the relatively short period of time where paypal had a totally fake guarantee and would only refund you what they could recover from the account of the seller, which was obviously nothing for scammers who emptied their accounts right away.

i just got this recently but don't know where i put it, can't find it to look at it. i think it's a late 70s UK thing. i'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong.

definitely doesn't get any play on the radio in chicago, and definitely not "oldies radio" in the traditional sense, maybe on some local soul shows. It was clearly a hit in detroit and was pretty common until it became in demand recently. It might have been a local hit in certain other cities.

I don't think that's a wider discussion, that pretty much is in line with what I'm saying. Unless you're more specifically talking about White store owners and racial differences in recognizing music in the US. There is a "blues" show on Saturday night on my station, the longest show on my station (5 hours) by a DJ ("eccentric" is the nicest word I can think of to describe him) named Arkansas Red. He plays modern (often dirty) blues (last time I listened like 10 years ago he was playing a new Ruby Andrews track called something like "turn over so I can sit on it" or something like that). More typical of his tracks would be Johnny Taylor "Last two dollars". But there is some overlap with overseas "southern soul" collectors because he plays Malaco type stuff. What's funny is that on facebook and I guess on his show, he's recently been saying "I DON'T PLAY SOUTHERN SOUL!" I guess there are worlds colliding with the internet where non-local audiences are calling him. Also, like 15 years ago, I specifically asked him whether in the 70s he called artists like Tyrone Davis and Johnny Taylor "Blues" and he said "no, we called them 'Soul'". There is a constant redrawing of genre lines, even by the people who made and listened to the music originally. For example, "doowop" was not called "doowop" in the 50s. However, there's also a difference between the people making the music thinking of and targeting a specific genre and people from the outside pulling in music from disparate locally named genres and creating a new one.

Does anyone in the US actually use the term "Soulful House"? There is a dance show the same night as mine on my radio station an hour after my show. Dudes play gospel house and other pretty soulful genres. But I've never heard them call it "soulful house" (and even if they did they aren't calling it "soul"). I also don't see "soulful house" on this pretty long list (I guess you could add it but it seems like the people making the music don't call it that given the list): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styles_of_house_music I've looked at EMS, the biggest eye opener for me was actually hearing solar radio recently. That actually made it make more sense to me as some sort of defining entity that pulled people and music together into a coherent genre that really only existed in the UK. Again, none of this is a knock on the music or the reception of it in the UK, it's just interesting that it seems to be a UK construct. Again, I totally appreciate the fact that there is a group of people actively looking for "soul music" (and it often takes a lot of work as a lot of music is pulled from diverse sources), this is not a knock on the people that do that, just a different perspective.

I'm pretty sure we the people is 100% east coast with no other connections (although that record did get a lot of play in chicago...)

I think you're referring to yet another US genre, "neo-Soul", which has a very specific sound.

also, I think the main reason we are not communicating is a perspective thing -- I think people see music much differently in the US than they do in the UK for example.

this is a much more specific point. But even in this point you have to differentiate between "blues and soul" (which represented "new" soul music) and the retro northern soul scene, which even initially embraced music that was not soul or even soulful at all, and which has been a retro / nostalgia scene for a while now, right? A northern soul hamburger truck isn't really that different from another lifestyle-focused nostalgia event in that the focus is on something that happened in a specific UK subculture at a specific time and not so much the music itself.

I am definitely not missing the point. We are not communicating at this point. I tried to express my point as concretely as possible, I don't think I can make it without getting more abstract, which probably won't work. I'm sorry, and I do appreciate the fact that you like good, soulful music.

By the way, I googled "mick hucknall", found he was the simply red dude. Simply Red not only got R&B radio play in the US but I know a lot of older people (some of them actual "soul" singers) who really like Simply Red. You're living in a world with arbitrary lines and aren't able to see outside of that to see that other lines are drawn elsewhere. Any my point is I don't understand why the UK invented genre of "soul" died in 2013.

You are totally missing the point I am making. There is a level of intentionality and different r&b scenes that have no interaction with each other except that some people in the UK decided that it had a specific sound. The example you gave is particularly egregious because THE ARTIST HIMSELF CALLS IT BLUES. I don't know how to make this point any clearer. If you mean an actual "genre" that existed in the US, that genre ended in the 70s. If you mean "soulful music", or even "soul" as in the genre that a bunch of people in the UK decided to create by picking and choosing different elements of US r&b, I have no idea what 2013 has to do with the "death of soul".

also, I don't know if you noticed this, but his album is called "STILL CALLED THE BLUES". great example of someone producing music they refer to as "soul music".

Where on that page or in the song does is the music referred to as "soul music"? I did a search and couldn't find anything on the page and I listened to the song and couldn't find it. Please direct me.

People in the US stopped referring to the music they were making as "soul music". A genre called "soul music" in the US ceased to exist. "Soul Train" continued but "Soul" magazine, the TV show "Soul", etc. dropped out. Only in the UK was there some sort of consistent genre called "Soul" assembled out of different R&B genres created in the US that didn't necessarily interact with each other domestically.

no they aren't, they don't even know or care about a small group of old bald men mostly in the UK. I never said that. There is a difference between "soul music" and "soulful music". People stopped making what they called "soul music" in the late 70s. I don't see how 2013 has anything to do with the death of "soulful" music except from the perspective of an insular aging scene.

what are you talking about? the music that people actually made and called "soul" stopped in the '70s. "Real R&B music" moved on and continues to evolve. what happened in 2013? what are you talking about music focusing on dancing? that was true during the soul era probably more than now. I think you live in a different world than me.