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Hi, welcome to my latest Sitting in the Park music show from last Sunday 3-17-2013. It was a special show because guest DJ / collector Elaine Wade came down from Wisconsin. We played all her selections off of her original 45s. Elaine brought some excellent music, some that I hadn't even heard before. You can listen to the special show here: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/3-17-2013-Elaine.mp3? You can listen to other shows and interviews with Chicago groups by going to my main page www.sittinginthepark.com Also, if someone you know wants to subscribe to this email list, they can add themselves at the following URL: https://eepurl.com/n7Qr5 Following is Elaine's playlist along with her notes on her selections: PHILLY SET I: Kenny & Tommy–Some Day (You’ll Be My Love)–Heritage [Kenny Gamble & Thom Bell] Exception’s–Baby You Know I Need You–Groovey Grooves [Charlie Horner has an alternate version, which is faster on his website: www.classicurbanharmony.net . Click on the “What’s New” button, then scan down quite a ways until you see the yellow label of the Exceptions on Pro, and just above it is a tribute to Jimmy Ellis, of the Cordells, Whirlwinds, Exceptions & Trammps, and that takes you to another page with sound clips, including that one.] Sheila Ferguson–Little Red Riding Hood–Landa [later member of the Three Degrees; prod. & written by Richard Barrett] Preludes–Deeper Than That–Harthon Janice Christian with Johnnie & the Charmers–Just a Bad Thing–Swan MIXED SET I: Tommy & the Riviera’s–Do I Love You–P’zazz [Connecticut group, recorded at Cameo-Parkway Studios in Philly, according to lead singer John, who also played keyboards] Dream Team–I’m Not Satisfied–Gregory [Norfolk, VA label] Gentones–(Thank Her For Me) City Lights–Casino [Hispanic; L.A.] Vanguards & the Lady–Blue Star Rising–Shirley [indianapolis group; Mary Brown is the female, according to Dickie Pierson (2nd tenor)] TEXAS SET: Silk ‘N Soul–Pinch of Sugar–Pacemaker [Houston label; Huey P. Meaux, prod.] Sonny Ace–Little Girl–Cobra Arlene Bailey–Ain’t That Something–Cobra Doc & Sal–Laughing To Keep From Crying–Dynamic NEW YORK SET: Margaret Royal–I’ll Never Go Away–Tra-X Jerry Jackson–It’s Rough Out There–Parkway Doris Wilson & the Rexettes–Big Flame (Is Gonna Break My Heart in Two)–Authentic Newports–Disillusioned Love–Guyden [did “If I Could Tonight” on Kane/Guyden] CALIFORNIA SET: New Yorkers–You Should Have Told Me–Tac-Ful [named after Chrysler New Yorker!] Elgins–You Found Yourself Another Fool–Valiant 1965 Franciscans–Walk To the Bottom of the Sea–JimBo [san Fran. grp; signed with Music City in 1961] Bobby Freeman–Lies–Canadian Warner Brothers [original on US Loma; he is originally from San Francisco, was in Romancers on Dootone: “I Still Remember” & “This is Goodbye”] MIXED SET II: Caesars–Desperate For Your Affections–Lanie [st. Louis] Masqueraders–How Big Is Big–Bell [Dallas, TX, later Memphis; saw the original group perform in Morrisville, NJ at Charlie & Pam Horner’s gig June 10, 2012] Barons–Kid Stuff–Shagg [New Orlean group] Soul Walkers–Can I Say It Again–Cardinal Avalon DETROIT SET: Embers–Forever–Act IV [original pressing; also as by Seminoles on Midtown] Mary Wells–Fancy Free–Atco Embers–You Can Lump It–Act IV [also on Midtown] Wade Jones–Insane–Rayber thanks, Bob

you mean does it sound like white pop or "teener"? I will listen later. But I think a bunch of the francettes 45 sound similar.

on my shelf i only had romark 106. i had a phillip sisters on a chicago label, a gospel thing, probably unrelated.

I have at least one and the francettes, digging them out now

I don't remember seeing it

Andy posted reasonable prices. It's not like he's offering $100 for a $1000 record. He may have posted on the low end but that's his prerogative as a buyer and he can wait until he finds a seller to sell at those prices.

I am looking for mary silvers on tip top to give to someone as a gift (I already have a copy in my collection). I am willing to pay up to $100 depending on condition. I will take off condition copies though. It looks like I just missed one on musicstack. I do not need it on one-der-ful. I will not pay more than $100 (again, if it's for me you might get me sweating for not having it but it's not). Thanks in advance.

did you just talk about yourself in the third person?

usually when all the copies are in the UK it means that stock was imported, it wouldn't be beat up. i have a double of this somewhere right now if someone needs it, not mint though

Butch and the Newports are exactly the same group as the Gaslight. They have 2 members in common with the earlier group the Young Sirs. Didn't see the price (probably too high) but this record is sort of hard to find and rarely comes up clean.

only on soul source would the answer to this question not be James Brown

yes

i have this, this isn't like a valuable record or anything if you were checking for that. tommy and liz lands lived in both chicago and atlanta, and most of liz' 45s were pressed on atlanta labels, it's not that strange that it was released in atlanta. also, if there is a motown recording, it's not clear whether it is the same recording or if they re-recorded it and released it.

the planetary record is LA, this record is Chicago. dorothy berry in LA was in a lot of girl groups, she was married to richard berry. I think this record is her though. Adding to the confusion is Dorothie Berrie and the African Bag All Stars on USA, which has Big Black's (uni) publishing on it.

not that hard to fix skips, and my hands aren't that steady

The first light blue label should be thick vinyl. I doubt there is a bootleg. The second water waves label is the more flexible 80s style vinyl.

has anyone looked at the skipping copy under a scope? I've seen mismanufactured 45s where the grooves go nowhere and it's impossible to fix, but if there's an obstruction in the grooves in the plates you can actually fix it.

This thread is still sort of ambivalent. Still, the record is such an important northern 45 that I would think it would definitely be known here if even an acetate exists. I'm just going to say it doesn't exist. Thanks everyone.

I'm sure that this must have been discussed at some point, and I would just say "no" as I would have seen it in a manship auction or on ebay at some point, and I've never seen it. But I've had people in real life tell me it does. The people on this forum would definitely be the experts on this specific topic though. Does it? If not, does someone have an acetate or something. Thanks in advance.

awesome, thanks so much!

I would pay the $1 if you still have it...

Also, the biggest chicago record in the style you're talking about (again, do it any way you wanna probably gets played a little more...) is the Notations "I'm still here". So Chicago.

Also, re: the specific songs you asked about, "sentimental man" is the flip of "the beginning of my end" which was the hit side. "The beginning of my end" actually still gets played by herb kent (I personally do prefer sentimental man but it doesn't get played). Delfonics "I was there" is an obscure record, it doesn't get played, but their first record "He don't really love you" was a hit and also still gets played.