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Thanks for the feedback. I don't think Barry played drums, he was just a label owner and producer. A couple of artists on his label told me he didn't even write "can I change my mind" for Tyrone Davis, which he is most famous for. He had a whole bunch of brothers, they had the reputation in the city of being gangsters. I don't think there were Opals / Vonettes connection. Did you see this website about Sandi Sheldon? https://www.spectropop.com/SandiSheldon/index.htm apparently a lot of the Sandi Sheldon "groups" were just Sandi Sheldon and Van McCoy. thanks, Bob

I meant despenza produced, sorry I was not clear, but it was in response to a post asking about desepenza credits

Paulette was NOT in the Ivories. Everyone else on the label was also not on the Ivories. The Traits were not in the Ivories. Willie Cager was not in the Ivories. All the Dispo artists were also not in the Ivories. If you want to know who was actually in the Ivories, listen to the actual members of the Ivories tell you who was in the Ivories in the interview I did: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews...-11-19-2006.mp3

the anita anderson record is despenza, she just wasn't in the ivories.

Scott: there are a bunch more contact records. You know there's two traits on the label, right, one as the original traits? I'm trying to think of some of the other ones, but I get them confused with dispo since it's the same label. I saw one the other day, it was a male artist on a gold contact label but i didn't get it, I'm going to hopefully go back and get it and I'll let you know, it looked like a deep soul thing though. there is a clip of paulette on manship's rarest of the rare, I think. There's a good record by willie cager on a cream colored contact too. There's some stock of that around so you should be able to find it, it's a nice cut.

Anita Anderson was not in the Ivories, despite everyone having said that in the past. None of the members of the Ivories had heard of her or remembered her. Paulette was Paulette Despenza, by the way.

Bunky moved to La in the mid 70s, which is why that flavor/livin proof/triple s connection group was by him... also, since his SON Stan Sheppard was in the group! His son Stan was also in the Impalas on Bunky. What's weird is there's a foreign 60s soul record produced by Bunky, I think it's a group called the Marvels and it came out on a Belgian label.

i don't know if this is an example of what you're looking for, but little richard had 'oh my soul' in 1958

Bo Dudley explained to me the story behind his label name Dud Sound once. I don't remember exactly so I'm probably butchering it, but had something to do with a Muddy Waters quote about even being able to make a dud sound a hit.

I searched ebay and found this, I've definitely seen a better version of the label where it was more readable and the script was bigger, but here's one version:

the best label name I have ever seen for sure is a Doowop label called Fellatio. The text is all script, like to make it classy looking. I wish I had a scan now, I laugh every time I see it.

a good starting point might be several regional soul discography websites on the web: www.ohiosoulrecordings.com www.dcsoulrecordings.com https://www.carolinasoul.org https://www.newyorksoulrecordings.com/ https://www.georgiasoul.com/

that is a real German buyer, they bought from me when I had stuff on ebay, I doubt there was collusion with the seller, at least with that specific bidder.

the seller is on this board so he'll probably reply. The label design is the same design as the common joyce lawson 45s on the label.

I don't know who he is (I think he was just a writer who worked a bunch with Jo Armstead), but his name is James Louis Venson, he wrote a bunch of Jo Armstead / Giant tracks. If you search BMI, you'll see some of the other cuts he wrote.

I guess if you're willing to pay money for the negative it would work, I didn't realize you were actually doing that. You're a very vengeful person!

people always say this but this isn't true either, if you read the ebay policy it's "about" 90 days, they're unintentionally vague about it because they want to prevent feedback sniping. I think they even extend the time to respond to feedback once you get feedback on an item. Do a web search for feedback sniping, they're a lot of discussions about this. If the seller is flaky and takes a while to respond in general, it might work, but there's no like small window you can leave feedback that will not leave time to respond.

That won't work. The feedback system favors the seller. If the seller files a non-payment notice on the item, the feedback is removed. Unless you intend to actually pay for the fake item you bid on, your feedback will be quickly removed.

jbc band on jeree = awesome and unknown. I'm a sweet soul collector but it would also be of interest to funk / modern collectors. all three THAT records on jeree are not bad.

Hi Phil. I'm in Chicago. I'm not disagreeing with you, I was trying to give more evidence supporting your case. I think part of the reason he was quick to refund and not rude to me was that I called him up right away and was clearly pissed -- i.e., it wasn't some anonymous internet transaction at that point (I guess it could also be that I'm in the US). I believe your story. I also never leave negative feedback as it messes up my feedback -- it's usually pretty clear what the real story is from the few negatives people have already (although I have dealt with a few horrible graders that had 100% feedback). Thanks. Bob

Hi Sean. I don't know right now, I'm still digging into Ardell gardens stuff, will post when I get more info. A few other ardell gardens groups/artists were the wasters / dynamic heartbeats, shades of brown, ralph johnson (his doowop group was the de'bonairs on ping), plus a few more I'm not thinking of now.

the Girls were from Ardell gardens, housing directly south of Chicago, which is where the Lovelites and Cheers were from, along with a bunch of other Chicago groups. NOT from Memphis ... other people who are from the same area told me about them.

I bought from this seller once. It was irma and the fascinators on scepter. Graded VG++. I got the record. Visually it was okay, but it was unplayable, as the styrene was totally shot and the noise overpowered the music. I was pissed and called him on the phone. I sent it back for a full refund and I think he refunded shipping too. It was more annoying at that time because he didn't take paypal and I had to go through getting a money order to pay him initially (I got a check back as a refund). He wasn't rude to me, though. Either way, his reserves on stuff are ridiculous, especially given the condition.

Bobby McNutt is from East St. Louis, which is not "windy city soul" but at least is from the same state

Charades on Okeh and MGM were definitely the same group. Charades on Mercury and Harlem Hitparade are definitely the same group (the harlem hitparade LP is all unreleased Mercury stuff). Don't know if the mercury group is the same as MGM. Poets on Red Bird became the main ingredient and are NOT the Poets on Symbol.