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The Ben Brown is Indiana, he was one of the owners of the label. The del chontays is a PA steeltown and is not indiana. I have at least one other gordon keith 45 on the label. I have never seen that 3rd jackson 5, only seen it on musicor, I would be surprised if it was on steeltown. I can check the correct b-side of that gordon keith when I get home.

Dennis Brennan used to have this also (don't know if he has any now) and he's in your state. I think on ebay he's web45 if you can't find his contact info.

thank you

I don't see why my message doesn't help. What doesn't help is how people viciously attack certain people with little evidence. Suggesting that the honest thing to do is to send the cracked record is not an attack on the seller -- if the seller took the advice, it would prove their honesty. If they didn't, it would probably prove their dishonesty. Maybe neither side considered this. I don't know any of the parties involved and I was not directly commenting on either of them.

my friend recently sold the jades on mode on ebay, he cracked it in half when packing it. he refunded the guy's money and sent the record anyways. an honest seller would send you the cracked record.

Hi. Today on my radio show I interviewed Kevin Rowan, who was a member of the Mystiques, Raw Umber, and the Sons of Slum. Kevin's father was a drummer in the King Fleming Trio, and Kevin also began to play drums at a young age. Kevin was from the Morgan Park neighborhood on the southwest side of Chicago. Kevin joined the Mystics (later the Mystiques, due to a name conflict, likely with the other Chicago Mystics from Pilsen), in the 6th grade. Even in grade school the group performed in small, private adult clubs. The group continued to perform throughout high school and are even pictured in the 1970 Fenger High School year book. The group's only single, "So glad to have you home again" / "put out the fire" was released on the tiny ORR label and later the Twinight label. The record featured tight, Five Stairsteps inspired harmonies and was one of the best indie sweet soul records to come out of Chicago. The group was unusual in that they were not just a self-contained group but actually were a band where the band members sang -- on their record the band members played on the record and then overdubbed their vocals. The group stayed together throughout high school and even became the backing band for local Morgan Park group Drake and the Ensolids. After the Mystiques broke up, Kevin played in many other bands, including a mixed-race funk-rock group called Orange. Kevin was also a member of the group Raw Umber, which featured Mystiques' vocalist Bobby Magee (and which later released a 45 on Bobby's father's Virginia label). Kevin even played in Chuck Bernard's backing band. Kevin ultimately became the drummer for the Sons of Slum. Although he does not play on their released material, he does play on their unreleased Capitol album. In the interview Kevin describes the exciting Sons of Slum live act and tells all the behind-the-scenes stories and contract near-misses that the group experienced in the 70s. You can check out the interview at the bottom of my interviews page at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html Thanks for your interest, Bob

even if they were not bootlegs, that would not mean that they were licensed for distribution to the UK or US. Many legitimately licensed UK reissues still aren't licensed for distribution to the US for example.

that is a totally ridiculous (awesome) drawing by the way

isn't that playboy 45 a 70s remake and not the 60s original?

soul harmony singles book says september 1970

I wouldn't know, as it doesn't exist... nor does a recording of it? It would be great to know if a recording did, I'd love to hear it. I doubt it would be the players song, though, because the players record is an answer record to their own record "he'll be back".

I believe it as the music is very similar, I'm just wondering what connection, if any, the "two-step" scene has to the US and no one has described any, I don't see any (besides similar music and the word 'step') and Barry keeps talking about "the black american scene". I honestly want to know what the connection is. Thanks.

I'm actually interested in all the references to the 'black american scene'. I don't know anyone in the US that calls anything "two step". Here in Chicago we have a "steppers" scene with similar music to what Barry describes above (e.g. Keni Burke) and to what people here have put in the "two step" thread in the media section. Probably the biggest Chicago steppers anthem is Jeff Perry's "Love's gonna last"... the scene is also centered around a lot of smooth jazz, but even goes back to early 60s jazz and 60s soul. But I still don't understand all the references to the "Black American Scene" other than there is "steppers" music in the US that sounds similar. Barry, do you know anyone in the US that actually uses the term "two-step"? Because while similar sounding, I don't think "two-step" has anything to do with any US scene at all.

that is good to hear. I'm surprised, actually, because I know how difficult it is to license tracks for a compilation that is not of the same source, and know that most 'allnighter' type cds I see imported, no matter how professionally packed, are probably bootlegs. in the US we have the same problem with sweet soul CDs... it used to just be local people's CD-Rs in mom and pop stores, but there are a few more professionally done and distributed ones, mainly coming out of LA.

it would be amusing to know if all the tracks on the actual CD were legitimately licensed. It's funny how adamant people here get about one-off or small-press vinyl bootlegs when it seems like CD bootleg compilations (even professionally packed ones) are all over the UK and probably bought and sold by at least some of the people complaining about vinyl boots. I don't endorse either type of bootlegging, I just think it's funny. Those CD comps involve more profit and ripping people off more than most vinyl boots.

I love the temprees and am excited about this. Will we be able to hear the interview afterwards as I don't think I can listen live. One question I would ask is if they did any background work backing other artists. The sang backup on Ernie Hines "electrified love" but that is the only one I know of. Thanks.

I think the off center thing is not true -- there is a lovelites 45 on lovelite that is commonly off center, that is "oh my love", but I've never seen "get it off of my conscience" off center.

Manship got just over 300 pounds for his auction copy a few months ago.

It was lezli valentine (I didn't listen to your clip to confirm though).

johnny dollar on fised in addition to the satin on shell. It's not actually the magnetics on that track, it's just johnny mckinney with some girls backing. Johnny had sheet music for the track too (I think it had johnny dollar and maybe floyd smith listed as writers on the sheet music).

I agree... except it's a woman singing

I doubt this florida record is related to the detroit mas-tok / cha-tok.

he was asking what a term meant on sales lists he saw. he was not asking how to categorize music he hears in a club in order to determine whether it was acceptable for him to dance to. he asked a reasonable question.

I think the LA groups book lists the info that Mel stated above.

I usually don't post my interview schedule because people keep flaking out or cancelling, but here is my current schedule: Next week: Kevin Rowan of the Mystiques on Twinight, Raw Umber on Virginia, and the Sons of Slum Week after that: Eddie Sullivan (Classic Sullivans, as well as the doowop groups the four gents and the desideros). Week after that: the Magnetics (Sable / J-V group). thanks, Bob