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this is a fantastic record and relatively hard to find. someone should definitely buy this.

thanks a lot. I don't know much about 50s music so this is news to me. I'm usually sort of annoyed when people talk about obscure covers as the original version without knowing the original, I guess I was a victim of that in this case! Thanks.

I like "eddie my love" a lot, I never knew it was a cover, I appreciate you giving that info. There is another version by pat carroll on domain.

is that one of the many records that you once knew but now have forgotten?

I just played the bill and will, it's not the same song. Both tracks are similar themed though (about drowning in the river) and both are r&b-ish. The bill and will is more rock sounding than this cut. Gerald Sims band plays on the tony romance cut. Apparently tony romance has other records on the label but they are crooner-ish.

this must be selling based on dj play because I remember a few copies going through ebay cheap and then a trashed copy selling for a lot of money recently. even craig moorer's copy went for relatively cheap like a year ago and idiots who don't know anything else bid on the records he lists, bidding them way over the regular values.

I don't think so because tony romance has writing credits on the cut I'm talking about. I tihnk I have the bill and will (just because I collect chess / checker), I will pull it out when I get a chance.

we say slammin' they say slamming

i'm not flying to the UK to get it though...

I remember another rare sweet soul 45 -- jazzie cazzie and the 8 sounds on knaptown -- going for like 75 pounds recently on his auction

I'm both are probably legit, it is very common to have multiple runs of the same record with slightly different typesetting / layout on the label. I don't actually know enough about boots to tell you if this was booted though, so I guess it's possible.

Gregory Magee was a member of the Mystiques on Twinight and Raw Umber. His father Bobby Magee ran the label. Gregory died suddenly of cancer a few months ago, it was very sad, I was only able to interview Kevin Rowan of the Mystiques in my interview. https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html There is a good (earlier) northern 45 on the label by a singer named Tony Romance, it's called "Going to the River", it's actually very good but not known. The Raw Umber 45 on the label is okay but the remake of "love one another" by Greg Magee on the label is better than the Raw Umber version. I paid $150 for the specific record you have but it's probably not worth that much as I've seen it sell for less and I needed it for the label number. It is very rare though. Almost everything else on the label is sort of pop-ish and not good in my opinion. The label is from Chicago.

yeah, but I paid $900 for the el count executives and someone got it for 100 pounds on Manship! I know someone who paid $1000 for a beat up copy! It doesn't seem like the best place to sell sweet soul. From now on, everyone should just sell sweet soul to me directly...

flip of the record "back home again" is nice too

I think the leaders on blue rock, fontana, and calla are not connected to the volt group. I will ask him to confirm and let you know. I also meant to ask him about the end product on paramount (who were a similar sounding group also produced by bert keyes and myrna march), I will let you know if there's a connection there. Thanks.

Hi. Today on my radio show I actually went outside Chicago to Washington, DC to document the origins of one of the favorite groups on my show -- the Moments. I interviewed Mark Greene, who was the original lead singer on the Moments' first hit, "Not on the Outside". Mark met the other three members of the original group -- Eric Olfus, John Morgan, and Richard Gross, at Edgewood recording studios, immediately after they recorded their first single "Baby I want you" / "Pray for me" for the Hog label (which was run by Larry and Fonce Mizell and Freddie Perren). Freddie Perren (later famous as a member of the Motown songwriters known as "The Corporation") became the group's manager. In the late 60s, the group went to New Jersey to meet with Ed Townsend to try to get a record deal. Ed took them to Sylvia and Joe Robinson, who were looking for artists to sign to their newly formed All Platinum records label. This original lineup of the Moments recorded the first hit for All Platinum's Stang sub-label -- "Not on the Outside". In the interview Mark describes how, unbeknownst to him, Sylvia and Joe created a new "Moments" group, featuring Al Goodman and Billy Brown, only including original Moments member John Morgan (who was also replaced after a few more records). Stang records released "My Confession of Love" / "I'm So Lost" (which was actually recorded with the original Moments lineup before "Not on the outside"), billed as solo artist "Mark Greene". Mark was unsatisfied with his treatment by the label and did not continue on as a solo artist. The Moments replaced John Morgan with singer Donald Spriggs and hooked up with producers Myrna March and Bert Keyes to sign with Stax / Volt records. The new group released two excellent records -- "Anyone Can" and "Which way" for Volt records under the name the Leaders. Unfortunately the records were not promoted well and the group soon broke up. In the mid-70s Greene joined members of a DC-area group called the Exceptions who had previously done backup work for Eddie Kendricks. The group cut an excellent never-released album in 1976 (which is just now available on CD as "The Moments Featuring Mark Greene - Urban Legacy"). Mark continued to record a lot of material from the 70s through today, and much of his material is available at cdbaby.com. The "Urban Legacy" album (which is especially good) is at: https://cdbaby.com/cd/momentsmg3 Check out my interview at the bottom of: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html thanks for your interest, Bob

you can buy it on that cdbaby page, I bought a copy this morning. I have one more mp3 he sent me of one of the ballads, which I will post if I can get the connection to not timeout for refosoul. but there is audio of all tracks on the cdbaby page.

I gave up trying to refosoul it and post it directly so I put it on my webpage. If someone else adds it to refosoul I will delete this. This is really good though: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/markgreen-wereinlove.mp3

I just failed to upload a refosoul clip 3 times in a row . It timed out every time. I also meant to post this in "all about the soul". I will try later. People can check out the audio on that link though.

Mark Greene, original member of the Moments, sent me a bunch of tracks off of some of the cds he put out recently. He sent me a couple off a CD called "urban legacy" that blew me away. The whole album is fantastic, check out audio at: https://cdbaby.com/cd/momentsmg3 Apparently the album was recorded by Jose Williams in 1976 but never released. I'm talking to him about potentially reissuing the material or at least pressing a couple of the uptempo tracks onto 45. But if people are interested they can buy it now from that cdbaby page. I'm posting a refosoul clip as a followup in a second...

25 pounds is too high I think, did you see it actually sell for that much or just listed that much.

also, not exactly underground, but in my opinion this is the best R&B record out now by far:

i like this... but, uh... doesn't this sort of steal from a george michael song?

that is cheap for a M- copy of the del capris I think, I'm surprised it's still there

It's on the "those sexy moments" LP. It is one of the harder to find moments LPs. The whole LP is fantastic, it all sounds like that and is similar sounding to the eleanor mills LP, it has that rare groove sound all the way through. I am huge moments fan but I think most of the lps suck and only collect the 45s. But they switched it up for this LP for some reason. I actually have a double of it actually, if you want it, I guess I would want like $20 for it. I looked at gemm and there is one for $20 from a UK seller so it would be cheaper shipping probably if you wanted to try them first (since I'm in the US). That is the lowest price on GEMM, by the way, other ones were way more expensive or in worse condition.