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I've also been told the versions were different (not just the mixes?) but I only have the scepter release so I can't compare. Joe Webster was also in the wild ones on spqr and the soul duo on shiptown.

I don't know if he sings lead, I talked to Johnny once and he is into the church and seemed nice but totally refused to talk about music. Ted Long (also of the Kool Gents) was in the group too. I have a lead on another group member, I'm trying to line it up now for an interview soon hopefully.

this is actually the same group as the turks on djo. johnny mccall was a member.

the adventurers and early editions and h. pointdexter aren't anything, maybe $20 records. the early editions is at least interesting in that it is a weird 5th dimension styled pop soul record.

Hi. Apparently I had a typo in the interview link. If you tried before, please refresh the page to get the corrected link. Sorry about this. Thanks.

one was just on ebay like a month ago I think (I think it went for closer to $50 but I don't remember so don't quote me on the value). This is one of those records that I think goes for much less than northern dealers value it when it comes up on ebay, but you will have to potentially wait a while for it... I have seen it on sales lists for 200 pounds or more though.

aren't your royalites a fixed cost per CD or single, and not dependent on the specific sales price of the store? Moral issues aside, it would be a nightmare to base everything on what each individual stores ends up deciding to sell your items at.

Today on my radio show I interviewed Eddie Sullivan. Eddie originally came from Altgeld Gardens, the housing projects just south of Chicago, and was inspired to sing by other local Gardens groups such as the De'bonairs. When he was only 13 years old, Eddie recorded as the lead of the Four Gents, who recorded one single on the Park label. A few years later, Eddie recorded another record as a member of the Desideros, a group which featured several future members of the Chilites. In the late-60s, Eddie became a songwriter for Clarence Johnson and Ric Williams, writing songs for many Chicago female artists. One of the first songs he wrote was Dianne Cunningham's first record, "Someday Baby", which became a local Chicago hit. Eddie wrote Candace Love's national hit "Uh Uh Boy That's a No No" (later covered by Barbara Lewis). He also wrote tracks for Sunday Williams, the Lovelites, Denice Chandler (later Denice Williams) as well as for more obscure local artists such as Donny Mann. In the late 60s Eddie and his two sisters formed the Classic Sullivans, with the intent of creating an upscale nightclub act. Soon after they started performing, the group recorded their local hit "Shame, Shame, Shame" for Clarence Johnson's Master Key label. With the aid of Marshall Thompson of the Chilites, the group then signed to Kwanza records (a division of Warner Brothers). Their first record on the label, "Paint yourself in a corner", an excellent impressions-styled uptempo cut, became a big hit in Chicago. The ballad flipside, "I don't want to lose you", got play in other cities and actually charted nationally on the Billboard R&B charts. Their excellent followup record, "A ring don't mean a thing without love" received little promotion and the group broke up a few years later. In the 80s, Eddie produced the local Chicago Music Awards and in the 90s formed a new Sullivans group with his wife Liz and two other members. You can check out my interview at the bottom of my interviews webpage: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html thanks, Bob

this is definitely not the william hart group. It isn't particularly rare either because I have found it a few times and I don't ever find doowop. I think it's a white group?

I will dig out the sonics record I'm thinking of and post audio when I get home

is the midnighters song actually the same song as the servicemen or just similar? I think the midnghters is a cover of a doowop record by the sonics on chess (it has a different title, I'm forgetting what it is) by the way. So if it is the same song, it's probably not the servicemen covering thee midnighters but actually them covering the same doowop record.

the bottom of one of the ivories photos I have says "scepter records artist". They said they did background on some chuck jackson and maxine brown tracks.

the four tops record was actually written by the brothers of soul. some of their later writing was interesting, they wrote some of their ABC 45s. I noticed their names on a heaven and earth 45 too (which sort of makes sense because ric williams was involved with heaven and earth). Anyone know some of their other later (mid 70s and later) writing?

thanks for listening. I've checked out pieces of your show but unfortunately I don't have internet access to listen directly at my job (we have to go to a public terminal to use the internet) so I check out bits of your show when I'm at home. It's interesting to hear later cuts, I don't know much about post-70s soul. Thanks again.

I always thought it was just an answer record to Can I change my mind. They usually do credit the original as partial writing in an answer record though.

the vee eight label also came out on another label I think, I think atlantic? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Hi. Today I did another all-music radio show. You can listen at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/7-13-2008.mp3 Playlist follows. Thanks for your interest. Intensions - She needs somebody - USA Carpets - Just can't win - ViJ Bobby Brinkley and the Squires - Would it matter - Squire Carroll Jones and the Soul Reflections - Hey Girl - RMR Sapphires - Evil one - ABC Adventurers - Something bad - Blue Rock Whispers - Needle in a haystack - Dore Leaders - Which way - Volt Four Tops - It would almost drive me out of my mind - ABC Fuzz - Mr. Heartaches and Mrs. Tears - Calla Wild Honey - I'll make it up to you - P&P Brain Storm Connections - Love is understanding - BSC Sweet Cherries - Love is what you make it - T-Neck Ponderosa Twins Plus One - Bound - Astroscope Aftermath - Gretchen - Phoenix Percy and the Image Band - Catch a falling star - Count Frankie Beverly and Raw Soul - While I'm alone - Gregar Moments - The next time that I see you - Stang Ego Unidentified Funk - Need a lot of woman - Soul sounds unlimited Sonrize - Sonrize (theme) - Earth Other Five - Lonely man - Rufus thanks, Bob

if the seller ended it early you would at least see the auction. I think ebay must have cancelled the listing because of the seller's comment about not accepting paypal.

I think the seattle group is white. The philly and oakland groups are Black (at least the Oakland one is).

although it is very funny, I don't understand why you keep talking about how much you know about records and how long you have been collecting and in the scene. Nobody is taking shots at you directly (there are people here who know very little to people who know vast amounts about music and everyone here is pretty accepting), they are only responding to your constant posts about how much you know, how big your collection is, etc. I think you should either talk about actual music or at least stop talking about how much you know about records, how long you have been collecting, it comes across as very strange. Why would anyone who knows a lot about music or who has been in the scene forever need to constantly talk about that fact itself? it should be reflected in their other posts about real subject material.

Can anyone tell me if the flip of the issue of "peace in the valley" is a ballad? Any chance of audio? I have the issue of their other atlantic title and neither side is very good. Clearly a kiddie group from Canada, does anyone know if they actually were a Black group? I'm suspecting an osmonds type thing, but I'm not sure.

this was written by Larry Nestor, a one-der-ful staff writer who wrote, "tired of being lonely" for the sharpees (among other things) and who was the original owner of toddlin town. He was very proud of this track when I met with him, he kept talking about it.

the person who sent me the photo responded to me and told me the had a copy of the single so I guess it does exist. it must be one of the hard blue rock titles like the 2nd cynthia and the imaginations 45.

I don't know if this is what the person commenting was referring to, but I would actually have a similar comment in that I wish I could show more record per page when browsing. Search helps you find a specific titles if you are looking for it. There are 1000s of titles I'm looking for, I like to browse through all titles on a webpage to see if there's anything of interest. If I can only see 20 titles at a time and there is a "next" button and it says "40 pages", I'm not going to spend the time doing it, scrolling and constantly clicking next over and over again. I made a comment like this to someone else about their site recently. So my comment is not specifically about the "search" function but rather just being able to browse more than one title at a time. Every day on ebay I look at all R&B 45s ending that day, I actually wish ebay showed more than 200 titles at a time, but at least 200 titles makes it way more managable than 10-20, which is what many people have on their sites. Thanks.

I actually never heard game players until I bought some UK CD, I can't remember what CD it was, it was a 2cd compilation of 70s modern cuts. In the US, his hit was "it's got to be now or never" (which is a fantastic record if you don't know it, one of my favorite records of all time), it is common on the north bay label and hard to find on the earlier ruby label. I occasionally find some of his 45s in Chicago on the cotton label. But he had several collectable 60s northern records before on koko, right? That's what I was saying about that webpage being wrong about his first record being "it's got to be now or never". I have no idea why he became a UK-focused artist. "Game players" does have that sort of UK-pop soul sound, at least to my ears.