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Thanks. But that's sort of what I was asking about the release numbers -- where is that info coming from, is it from the actual label records? If so, how come there are holes where people don't know some of the numbers. Thanks.

I have a copy of this in my trade box if anyone has a good group soul (northern or group soul) trade. I think it's like strong VG to VG+, I would have to dig it out.

I've had at least 3 copies of this and passed on a couple beat up copies (I won't anymore I guess). Obviously it's not common, but some of the other magic touch titles are rarer, like "welcome home" (that someone mentioned already). There is a wikipedia article which is missing a lot of titles, but it has this: Cuca J-1271 Harvey & The Seven Sounds "Independency/ I Want To Apologize" that's crazy, i've never seen or heard of that cuca title. I recorded all of Harvey's singles for him, it took up two CDs, I thought I had all the singles but I guess I'm missing that cuca title...

I was just looking through a wand discography and it has ernie hines listed as #1150. It's one of the USA titles. Does anyone know if this exists? It would be cool to get for the hard titles (such as the honey bees) a confirmed / denied listing on some of the titles. Also, assuming that these numbers came out of the actual label catalog (e.g. if they were never actually released the numbers had to come from some file or someting), why are there missing numbers? Thakns.

I would agree with this, but one thing you can do that's kind of cool with a glossy Lp cover to remove writing -- you can run a dry erase marker on top of the original marker until you re-wet it, then you get wipe it off. Don't do it to a paper record label though.

if it's not sold at $20 that doesn't even make it $20 much less $100

thanks for the clarification... do you think paulette and the cupids includes the same paulette as on contact?

this is just the bobbettes under a different name, flip is a bobby womack cover, also comes as a promo with the same song on both sides

edie and the channels on herald is good northern, there is a rarer press of it I think by edith alexander on another label that I can't remember... patti and the emblems 45s on herald are all pretty good but not valuable.

I think it was the same person who had the bw souls on round, which used to be an expensive funk record before a zillion copies came out.

Sorry, I didn't read your post carefully enough before responding -- you already said the tracks, plus you said harry williams, who was in bloodstone, is credited, so it's the same group and probably unreleased.

I thought maybe he was referring to the osborne guide and just called it "rare record price guide"?

The sinceres were 100% kansas city (many people talk about them actually) and they went to LA to get a record deal to record. A lot of chicago people I know actually ran into them in LA when they were there (they're always like "we met bloodstone before they were bloodstone!"). There actually is a rare pre-pzazz sinceres 45 on a label called Zina I think, it's called "oh my angel", nice doowopy soul. It's the same group as the same names are on the label. That's not the acetate you have, is it? Either way, if it is the same sinceres, they could have gone to texas to try to get a deal. There were other sinceres groups, though, for example, the doowop group on richie.

I can't actually verify who is the lead (and the gadson thing makes sense), but a UK DJ told me that he knew it was tommy tate because there was an interview with tommy tate somewhere where he mentions his first recording as "handy andy". I don't know the actual interview and haven't seen it, i'm just relaying what I heard and what I think is the source of people saying tommy tate is the lead.

this is a cover of marilyn haywood on silver fox, right? now that I think about it, I think maybe eddie sullivan wrote this and I forgot to ask him about it in the interview (unless I am remembering wrong).

whatever, rising sun 'good loving' was like $75 a year ago, now it's like $1500 and that's not just two people bidding that.

Brad Hales, the guy from People's records of detroit (who has been discussed here before, specifically when his old store burned town) is the seller burl*one. re: recordmanx, I don't think his grading is particularly conservative, but to each his own I guess. I do like that he lists a lot of 45s and I do bid on his auctions a lot, he's a reliable person.

I went to their store (Goner Records) a week ago when I was in memphis -- definitely worth checking out if you were there as they had lots of good soul 45s.

this is hard on D.W. (local release), much more common on red bird. Can't give you a value though, not really worth much on red bird.

the flip is written by stormy, who also wrote saxie russell psychedelic soul. gregory washington was a guitarist that played on many chicago records and his sister cynthia washington was lead singer of silk. so at least it's connected to northern soul...

it's so interesting to see all your playlists all the time because I really don't know like 90% of the tracks on it. I love how you seem to be into exactly the opposite type of soul music that I'm into... I like your shows, it's just very different than what I usually listen to. I really appreciate the fact that there's someone else digging up the rest of the genre so the music isn't lost.

I don't know, but I'm guessing the LP was first. Bunky placed a lot of the earlier recorded material as b-sides on later singles. I will hopefully interview Mill Edwards soon (just about the Sheppards) and I will ask him. Thanks.

Thanks for the feedback, not the same bonnevilles, this was a garage group from Milwaukee, the play it cool group was a vocal group from DC. Thanks again.

Hi. Today on my radio show I interviewed Sam Pace of the Esquires. Although they were from Milwaukee, the Esquires were one of the greatest Chicago soul groups, cutting many great records in Chicago in the 60s and 70s. The original lineup of the group consisted of brothers Alvis and Gilbert Moorer and their sister Betty Moorer. Sam Pace joined the group in the early 60s. The group actually first recorded as singers on an LP by a local Milwaukee rock group called the Bonnevilles. Around 1967, Sean Taylor joined and the group went to Chicago to look for a record deal. They took a demo of their song "Get on up" to different labels on Michigan avenue ("record row"), and ended up being signed by Bunky Sheppard at Constellation records. The group went to the studio to re-cut "Get on up" and in the same session did backing vocals for Bunky's artist Mill Edwards (previously lead singer of the Sheppards). While recording "Get on up", Mill came up with the idea of the call-and-response bass answer in the song and ended up singing bass on the record. The record was released in 1967 on Sheppard's newly formed Bunky label and it became a huge national hit on both the R&B and Pop charts. Edwards became a permanent member of the group and they began to tour nationally. The group cut several excellent 45s for the Bunky label and even released a whole LP. Bunky Sheppard then placed recordings by the group on many other labels, including Wand, Capitol, Lamar, Rocky Ridge, Hot Line, and Ju-Par. "Girls in the City", the group's Lamar record, is, in my opinion, one of the greatest Chicago soul records of all time. In the late 70s a new lineup of the group released a record on Milwaukee's New World label and went to LA to cut tracks, two of which were released on Chicago's Lasco record label and two of which were released on the Esquires' own Cigar Man label. Although the group never released any material since 1980, they have continued to do shows and still perform today. You can check on my interview at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html as a special bonus, I played all Esquires records for the rest of the show and included the tracks in the mp3. thanks, Bob

where's the link?