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no, it's a funk record with a nice sweet soul flip. the intentions is chicago (and are not the intensions and are supposedly the pharoahs, even though both groups went to the same high school). The only three is philly i think. I imagine there are other records called "dig it" also...

I'm glad you were able to fill your list. What's funny is that I own two of the titles you needed, but neither of the two chicago titles...

thanks everyone for the feedback, I appreciate it. A lot of these people are very difficult to find, it takes detective work, word of mouth, and sometimes being in the right place at the right time. To Melismo: all the o'jays bell sides are awesome, you should check them out. Look over your shoulder is classic, there is a nice version that george kerr did with the escorts also, and there is also the apparently original version by the implements on phillips. I saw the O'Jays live at a free show in Chicago about 5-6 years ago, they started to do look over your shoulder and they stopped because the crowd wasn't into it and only wanted to hear 70s material. I was pissed. They were still great though.

so did you just drop like 20 grand on 45s?

there is a really good sweet soul 45 by the omystics, I played it on my radio show a week ago if you want to hear it.

That's even better then ... I would be even happier to have a true original.

did he confirm just the deadwax or also the label and vinyl? I didn't really believe that these were represses but last weekend I heard a story about the same people in question repressing a rare doowop record by getting ahold of the original stampers and trying to pass them off as original. I heard Val Shively got a copy and compared it to his original and saw a difference in the vinyl quality and label color and declared them to be represses. I guess while these might be originals, they could also be boots given that the seller might have had access to the stampers given that the record is also from Las Vegas. I would like to know how the frederick hymes actually compared to the confirmed originals. Either way, I don't really feel ripped off having paid $150 for the "newer" copies, even if it turns out to be a repress it still should be worth at least that much given that all are gone, the demand, etc. It's not like other people paid less.

thanks

Hi. Today on my radio show I did a short interview with a member of the soul group the Ringleaders. I also did a music show. Both are online. The Ringleaders were from Saginaw, a small Michigan manufacturing city that was the birthplace of both Stevie Wonder and LJ Reynolds of the Dramatics. The Ringleaders formed in 1964. A year later the group left the city to try to get a record deal. Failing to get a deal in Detroit, the group traveled to Chicago and went to the different companies on record row. The group signed with Ernie Leaner at One-Der-Ful records. The group recorded four songs in one session in Chicago. In 1966, "Let's start over" / "Baby what has happened to our love" was released on M-Pac records (a division on One-Der-Ful). Despite being an excellent two-sider that got local radio play (both on the ballad side and the uptempo side), the group's followup single was never released. The group returned to Saginaw and did only a couple of shows (including a show opening up for the Four Tops) before breaking up. Today "Baby what has happened to our love" is highly collectible as a Northern Soul single in the UK and the studio acetates the group's unreleased tracks ("All of my life" and "Win you over") have sold for large amounts of money. You can listen to my interview at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html I also did a music show. You can listen to the music part of my show at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/9-14-2008.mp3 Playlist follows. Thanks for your interest. Richard Popcorn Wylie - Do you still care for me? - Epic Freddie Butler - I'm gonna be with you - M+M Diplomats - Cards on the table - Arock Uniques - Pretty baby - 620 Rocky Brown - Den of love - Melron Charmers - I cried - Laurie Resonics - I'm really in love - Lucky Token Sonics - This broken heart - Checker Hi C's - Just how it is - Hi C O'Jays - Look over your shoulder - Bell Milton Floyd - I'm a shadow - Rim Burke Family - Under the spell - Cobblestone Brotherly Love - I don't see me in your eyes anymore - Music Merchant Cheryl Williams - I'm your fool - Bengee Al Jay - Reflections - Bumpshop Night Riders - Girls in the city - Eclipse Delfonics - Seventeen and in love - Philly Groove Fourth Creation - I think I would cry - Daran

my copy does not say 'little tony clark', it says 'tony clarke'. the record is from detroit. it is "the" tony clarke.

At a record show today I picked up the delacardos on dimension. the track is called "dance gypsy dance" and it's pretty nice, sounds sort of like the hollywood flames dance senorita. Is this record known at all? It's definitely the atlantic group, but it's not listed in the soul harmony singles book. it's not in the new tim brown guide (I only have a very old manship guide so I can't look there). Is this known at all? the only place I see it listed is in dave rimmer's dimension discography. Thanks.

I only have the one you have, not that other one, sorry. I don't think it's a boot, raw soul is even listed as the backing back on the single artist side. Thanks.

it's not very good (I just remember playing both sides once and filing it right away)

that is the original press, the only way those songs came out. I always thought this group had some group to raw soul express on cat because that perkins name is on all the records. guess is obviously lenis guess.

this doesn't turn up much, I'm pretty sure there was one on ebay in the last couple months though

the burn group is definitely different. those your copy records are valuable doowop records. I don't know much about doowop and don't know the blue lake 45 but the your copy group is definitely from detroit.

Bombay is Chicago, it was a Bob Catron label, he did have some detroit connections. The other not known as soul records mentioned above are shitty blues / jazz records. There is also an LP on the label, I think by Jean Carroll (I can't remember now). Someone told me that the fascinators are the detroit doowop group who recorded on Your Copy, but no doowop collector will believe me on that title. The person told me that Michael Chandler (kermit's brother who is an alderman) told him that info.

I bought vernon greene listed as "VG++" on Tim Brown's last list for 100 pounds. The same day I bought it a mint one went on ebay for $100 .

hopefully he will be more careful with more expensive titles (and shipping overseas), that was just my experience with his cheaper titles. He has another user id with much lower feedback. I hope it works out for you, I like the sweet side (who can I turn to) but even that is sort of 'messy' sounding, still a nice record though.

yeah, good luck with that seller les harris, one of the worst on ebay, his vg is like fair and he ships 45 INSIDE LPS, like he tapes the 45 to the LP, puts it inside the sleeve, writes an address on it, and mails it with no additional padding.

I was the second bidder on a "VG" one 2 days ago for $180

that is the only one pictured in this thread that has the 70s font that matches other titles like the compacts on carla

no, the superlatives dynamic is detroit. there is at least one more dynamic label, I think out of pittsburgh, but maybe more. Thanks.

anyone have a copy of this to sell or trade? Thanks.

this is also my experience, promos much rarer. my experience is often off of what actually exists in the uk though.