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the independents' chuck jackson was related to jesse, which I think is the source of the confusion. the franklin's other sister, carolyn, was obviously also a singer

The coin version is totally different than the twinight version. It is a slow ballad. Make sure you get the right version. The twinight version is northern. Coin was not part of Crajon, it was owned by Gene Cash who also had Cash and CRA. There is a very rare 2nd 45 as by Harrison on Coin but it's a weak funk record.

I just played the LP version and the 45 version and back to back and I'm not sure if they are different recordings or not. But the LP version is a way better mix. The 45 is mixed poorly and pressed at a very low volume because the track is so long. The 45 is actually longer than the LP version, though, almost 6 minutes.

the calla group is 4 miles high. Problem child is a fawns cover. However, I was wrong about Keni Lewis being a member of the group, at least according to the soul harmony singles book, the counts / 4 miles high / 5 miles high are : Richard Collins, Clarence 'money' Munroe, Jimmy Faison, Stanley Minor, LaMont Wash.

Hi Ady. I can scan and record the perfections for you, give me your email. I remember the little wooden soldiers being up on ebay, I think it was just a duo but I don't remember. p.s. i gave you a bunch of photos for your cds, still never got anything back by the way.

it's pretty much just an answer record to their own record

I just want to say thanks so much to everyone who helped me out, the interview will be in a month or two (he wants time to get all his info together). Eddie Cherry was also a member of the doowop group the Fabulous Crystals, who had a valuable record on the Delano label.

thanks a lot, the scan actually helps confirm his info because the group members were Eddie Cherry, Lewis Hill, and Bob Pittman, and there's a hill credited in that scan... there was no hill on the mercury 45 on writing.

yeah, not that group, it's the mercury fads, 3 Black guys. One of them (the guy I'm talking to) was in the doowop group the Fabulous Crystals on Delano, which is a rare doowop record.

no, I had a $50 snipe on it that didn't even go through, I didn't realize there would be northern interest. A couple of the members of the group were in the daylighters. They have a common record on a label called Gemini, the two tiptop titles are very hard to find. But the other tiptop title is just the gemini title and isn't that good anyways, you got the good one.

apparently, a VG- copy is worth $103.50 and you now own it. this is actually a pretty hard to find record, though, I don't have it.

i got the wb record recently, i didn't compare closely but i think it's the same recording. in the ian levine thread someone (I think Sean H) said the wb was first. singing lead on this is Stevie Robinson, who sang on a few other things (e.g. he sings on that THEM record on hawk). His brother was lead of the stony island band.

it doesn't sound that retro to me, though, it sounds like other R&B that's out there now. that was my only comment. I like the record. I understand why something like 'step in the name of love' (which has an almost main ingredient type sound) would be considered more retro, plus there are some other r&b records out there now that are getting mainstream radio play that sound more retro -- e.g. alicia keyes teenage love affair, that song that has that reggae/dub type sample that I'm blanking on right now (I'll think of it...), etc.

this gets constantly played on the radio where i am at least. good r&b record but i don't understand why it would cross over to any non-mainstream scene more than any other good r&b record. maybe it's not mainstream in the uk?

So apparently the fads are tc lee and the bricklayers minus tc lee (the same 3 members that back tc are the fads). I need recordings of both sides of the bricklayers 45 to send to the fads group member. Can anyone help me out? Thanks.

I don't think this virtue label existed in the early 60s

this is very hard to find as an issue, as you note. but with records like this it's hard to get a 'value' because they are oddities that aren't like in demand, like they will slip through ebay with no bids sometimes. I guess the pete rock sample of this track makes it a little more desirable but rap people are looking for the lp anyways.

He asked the producer about it and he (the producer) didn't know about it and thought it might have been arranged by their manager. However, he was much better at google than I was: https://bedazzled.blogs.com/bedazzled_blue/...tone-the-c.html This is the full video. warning: not work safe (but neither was the original video).

butch won the copy that was on ebay

I just emailed someone I know affiliated with the group to ask if he knew what the deal was

that's from his solo LP that p-vine reissued I think. I think it was his label called aladdin, then aladdin west, then he shortened it to alwest.

there's also one more smoke label from the bay area (mantis on smoke)

thanks for responding. What show is the footage from, any where I can get a copy or is it online somewhere, etc.?

What is the footage of the group performance with the nude girl dancing that it is at the end of Mike's video compilation from?

Hi. Today on my radio show I interviewed Cecil Lyde aka Cecil Holden. Cecil was a singer and musician that came out of the Evanston music scene. Cecil was related to members of the Foster Brothers and he first performed at a talent show at the Club Delisa when he was only 11 years old. In junior high school Cecil formed a vocal group with Bruce Fisher, Larry Fisher, Ricky Giles, and Sam Jackson; the group called themselves the Cavaliers and performed in local talent shows. After leaving high school, Cecil worked at different record companies on record row, singing backup on bigger groups' records and writing songs. In the late 60s, Cecil joined the air force and went overseas. On returning in 1970, Cecil, the Fisher Brothers, and Ricky Giles got together to sing again, working with Chess records' producer Charles Stepney doing advertising jingles. Cecil ran into his friend Dudley Fair who had another local Evanston group called the Soul Experience that had just broken up. Dudley brought Cecil and Larry Fisher to sing in the new version of the group called Experience II. Experience II was not just a vocal group but a self contained band; musicians included Jerry Soto, Barry Collins, Tudy Bryson, and Bobby Stringer. The group performed in the Chicago area and, via manager Paul Gallis and Maury Lathowers, signed to Capitol records (the same label that Maury had previously helped sign Evanstonian Patti Drew to). Although the group recorded six songs, they only released one single: "Bout time that I told you baby" / "Freedom train" on Capitol in 1973. The group broke up shortly after the single was released. Cecil left Chicago to go to LA to pursue music further. At the time Bruce Fisher started working as a songwriter, writing for such artists as Billy Preston, the Blackbyrds, and Quincy Jones. Cecil co-wrote a record, "At the end of a love affair", that was released by Bruce Fisher on United Artists. Bruce helped Cecil, along with Larry Fisher, and Rick Giles, get a deal with United Artists. Although they recorded an entire LP, only one single -- "I'll always love you" / "Serve me right to suffer" -- got released as Lyde, Fisher, & Giles on United Artists' Hab subsidiary. The group soon broke up after the release of the single. Cecil recorded and released more music on his own Alwest label. He released a solo album called Stone Free that was recently reissued by the P-Vine record label out of Japan. He then released a couple more LPs and a single under the name Home Boy and the COL. He continues to record and release both Gospel and R&B music today. You can check out the interview at my interviews page at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html thanks for your interest, Bob