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wasn't there like a buy it now on ebay for like $250 or something a day ago? still too much I think, it's been cheaper on there.

doesn't sound like a sample at all, it sounds like it was played on a keyboard

you might note that the a-side of the intellects is also a cover ... hard record

all the curtis andersons also came from one guy in baltimore right? i think the new world is a good example as it is a major label thing that was buried in a bunch of places and then has come out from different sources that had it lying around. also, what about the vanguards good times bad times, that seems to come up from different sources also.

don't forget the new version (a couple years old) by QUEEN LATIFAH! really! it's actually not bad.

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this was another case of the keke / givhan label owner dumping copies on the public (via several detroit sellers). It wasn't a case of ebay making different sources coming out of the woodwork. I guess without ebay the label owner a) might not have known about the value and B) might not have had a way to sell the items, but it's still different than copies appearing out of different sources.

i agree with some of these but disagree with others -- how many volumes on karen have actually gone through ebay? not many, maybe three? trannells? some of these have only been on ebay a few times, that doesn't make them "de-rarified", many of those have come up for sale outside of ebay more (e.g. on here). also, when there is a small find of something by one person (e.g. the celebrities), it's not really ebay that made the record suddenly less rare. i agree with many of these though -- there were many records that were out there and not coming up for sale that ebay brought out from people (maybe september jones for example).

there is also a cool, unrelated to ollie version by white rock singer Darius, who has a very expensive LP. His version of hello stranger on chartmaker isn't on the LP and actually is nice and the band is good and it has backing vocals also

they're all karen / ollie mclaughlin productions. the capitols is easy to find, it's the flip of cool jerk

you're missing the capitols version. i think there's an instrumental version by riley hampton also. i was watching an episode of soul train from around 1980 or maybe 1979 with the dramatics and one of the guys said they were in the quickest way out but i forget which one. quickest way out are from detroit.

the tiny release is rarer, I'm just saying that there was a copy a few weeks before this one. There probably were other copies too, but it's still rarer than the rouser record.

i've never seen one and all the ones in popsike are promos. i'm guessing one exists, but i never thought about it before I guess

walter and the admerations:

Hi. Today on my radio show I did a really cool interview with members of the Chicago group the Green Berets. The group originally formed in grammar school when 3 brothers and one other member, all from the South Side (around 55th and Lasalle), began singing together as the Four Gents. At the same time, Walter Smith, from the North Side of Chicago (from the Cabrini Green projects) was singing lead with the group the Admirations. Smith sang lead on the group's One-Der-Ful records "All for you", "Don't leave me", and "Wait till I get to know you", but left the group after the two records were released. At the time, Smith was attending Tilden Tech high school on the South Side, and was classmates with the three brothers from the Four Gents. The Admirations' manager Ted Daniel approached Smith about forming a new Admirations group; Smith hooked up with the Four Gents and began performing at talent shows as "Walter and the Admirations". In about 1967, after performing together for a year, the group recorded their first record, "Life of Tears" / "Man Oh Man", released as "Walter and the Admerations" on the tiny La-Cindy label out of Chicago. The record received little radio play and distribution. The group continued to perform around the city in talent shows as "Walter and the Admirations" (to differentiate themselves from the other Admirations group that was still performing) for a few years. The group developed a tight harmony and did many shows acapella without a band. In 1969, the group's manager hooked up with Andre Williams, who got the group signed to Universal Records, as part of a package deal with several other Chicago groups and artists (the Wasters, Darrow Fletcher, Garland Green, etc.). Williams had the group change their name to the Green Berets for the session. The Green Berets' first single, "(Lord) send me somebody", one of the great sweet soul records to come out of Chicago, became a national hit, reaching number 31 on the Billboard R&B charts. Unfortunately, most of the members of the group were drafted or entered different divisions of the military, so they were unable to tour to promote their single. The group travelled to Memphis to record their second Uni single, "Just an ugly rumor". The record had a unique psychedelic sound, due to the combination of the group's tight harmony and the musicianship of the Memphis players (including members of the Bar-kays). Unfortunately, due to a lack of promotion and touring, the record did not receive much radio play. The group's third single, "I've got to be loved" also had an excellent sweet soul sound, but as much of the group was still serving in the military, they still could not tour to promote their records. After leaving Uni records, the group recorded a single as the High Society, produced by their guitarist Phil Davis. The High Society single, "I can't believe", had a nice Marvin Gaye-inspired sound, and received some radio play in Chicago. The group soon reunited with Andre Williams, who renamed the group as the Velvet Hammer, and added himself and Karl Tarlton as vocalists. Andre attempted to create a more contemporary, funky sound, similar to the Ohio Players, for the group. The Velvet Hammer's first single, "I'm the rock", was financed by Ric Williams and released on Polydor records. The group then cut an entire LP for Soozi records, a label started by the owner of a chain of south side barbeque restaurants. Despite releasing a single and pressing the LP twice with two different covers, the record received little radio play. Guitarist Phil Davis released a remixed version of "I can't believe" as by the Velvet Hammer on his Chila record label (on both 45 and 12") in 1979, but failed to score a hit. The group continued to perform together through the mid-80s. You can check out the interview at the bottom of my interviews page at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html thanks, Bob

one was on ebay a few weeks before this last one

maybe worth more than $100 if there's a northern side, I've seen it sell for less but if it's mainly unknown it doesn't have an established value I guess

in maybe 2000 I was applying for a job at motorola and the job was to work on a system that did exactly this. I didn't take the job because I would have had to move to London. I don't know if the system they were developing (or maybe contracted to work on) ended up being this or connected to this or if this shazam system was developed independently.

al benson was the label owner, not bob lee. bob (the jerhart guy) produced stuff for the label near the end of the life of the label.

if it was licensed in to mica from detroit it could have been licensed overseas also. it sounds like a chicago record and not a detroit production though but i'm not sure.

i never knew ray and dave were from detroit (I don't know anything about them), do you have more info? Jimmy Dobbins name is on the record as a writer also, I think, and he had a record on a chicago label also. Who were ray and dave?

it has the same label design and number though. it kinda looks like a foreign boot where they stole the detroit grant label design and just pressed the ray and dave on it. what is on the other side of the record?

the little girl side also came out on amy, this is the same texas group as on amy and modern. their other pet 45 is an expensive funk 45, this is probably as rare but worth much less, maybe $100? It's not really known though.

i doubt this is what he was referring to but there is the 80s motown lookalike repress with the barstool cover, but it has the thing on the back saying 'originally pressed ...' as an aside, i still find it infinitely funny that there is a record consistently referred to by collectors as the 'supremes stool cover'

here are some issues: 1. It won't list the condition of the record when browsing, I have to click to display it and then click another tab to see the condition 2. the main page has an auction menu with sub-items for all items, ending this week, new, etc. that's cool as it would save me a click. however, no matter what you pick, it doesn't actually take you to the auctions, it takes you to the help page for the auctions 3. The new music player is confusing. It used to open up in a new window, I guess the player is now embedded in the top left corner of the screen. But that's confusing when you're scrolled all the way down, it took a while to figure out what was happening and even after doing that, now I have to scroll back up to the top of the screen to do anything. when you click on another link the player pauses for a second as the other page loads. it was better as a separate window 4. i still would like a list view of the records as opposed to the larger view. i like to see as many as possible on a page and don't care for the photos (and they don't add much when most have the "coming soon" image). It's similar to how in windows I hate how it defaults to the icon view and I always change it to detail view, I need more information, not more visuals 5. i can't browse the 'rarest of the rare' by label (although i do like that i can see 72 items per page on that now). i actually can't tell what it's sorting it by now actually when it initially opens up, although it looks sorted when I click "next" I think.