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the professionals photo made it looks far from VG and the description sounded misleading, it said "PLAYS VG", it did not actually say the record was VG, the description raised red flags for me and I was surprised at the ending price. frankly I think the soul source featured auctions contributed to the high price.

you possibly heard richard pegue

dave thorley and baz also call me bobo, anyways, this one is better

"butterfly" is just a remake of "wish I knew", it's the same song.

is there some way to know for the tracks you play whether they were released on 45, 12", LP, or CD? the stuff I play is pretty much all 45 but your era gets into all sorts of different formats and I don't know most of it so I'm interested in the format too.

dude, you have to be like the number 1 online radio listener out there, you must have a massive knowledge of soul music just from listening to everyone else's shows. peace.

here's the first google hit I found, you owe me your entire collection: https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=688385

listing the number one R&B hits in the US misses ChorleySoul's entire point about the local-ness and prolificness of the music back in the day. There might not only be a local hit, there might have been multiple groups from the same city with the same name where they didn't know about the other group with the same name in the same city, because the music was such a local phenomenon. Even looking at local charts would look pretty hit-filled but each chart would always have a few surprises and listening to the actual radio would reveal many weird local oddities and going to the stores and finding what people played in their neighborhoods and local jukeboxes would reveal more. Plus are you fucking joking about tyrone davis not being a huge influence? "in the mood" was sampled a bazillion times by rappers and "can I change my mind" gets played by paul schaefer on late night with david letterman, it's like a standard.

I don't know but the international five record says a chanson production. there were no common names on the domestic five record but I don't know if that means anything because I think the names on the domestic five record were just the writers / producers.

I never thought the international five was from detroit (but I have no idea where the label is from so it might be, I guess it looks sort of like other GM records), but I do know that james lately or whoever people were saying was the lead of the domestic five was NOT the lead singer or a member of the group, my friend talked to someone affiliated with the label a while back, I can ask him the details. I love that track "so in love with you", what a killer sweet soul track, I will look at the international five track tonight and compare names / sounds with the domestic five. isn't chanson a new jersey label?

If you look in popsike you can see the two label variations of calvin golden, both labels are red but the logos are different. I don't know if gemini is related to aquarius but kennedy holman (definitely deceased)'s name is on the el count executives, soul in-pressions, solid solution, and complaments on dakar. He was definitely a member of the solid solution but I don't know if he was a member of any of the other groups or if any of the other groups were connected. anyone know more of the story behind the 4 groups I just mentioned or know if there were more common members?

maybe saqaurius is not related, i just assumed it was. i didn't really not the address, I just noted "detroit" and some version of aquarius. don't know about a rock title.

maybe the lollipops on VIP

yeah, that record on eleganza? can you give any help on the 1007#? vaguely related, I thought I had run the aquarius label except for the ultimate ovation, I don't have that on aquarius (but I do have both label variations of the calvin golden) and then I was at someone's house and they had that purple snow on "saquarius" and I figured it was the same label and got annoyed because I don't have that also.

Kev, pm me if you want me to record the vinyl (actually styrene) for you to mp3

unrelated, you know the bellboys are the same group as the three rivers blues band on kama sutra / lion and are from PA and not ohio? chris anderton put me in contact with the guy. the guy went to high school and managed other PA area groups (white and Black groups).

this thread is awesome. my whole point is exactly what you were saying -- I was saying that 1) people should have some basic respect for the origins of the culture (which is definitely not always true on here, whether or not I know jack-squat about "northern soul") but 2) as long as you didn't originate the cultural objects in the first place, it's a totally ridiculous argument to whine about how "our objects" are being taken overseas (which was the original post). That's all. If you read my argument, I was was not making any first-class claims to the records as an american like people in this thread are claiming I am (as if they were some artifacts of a country that should be returned to that country), I was saying whoever values them the most should have them. Anyways, this thread was a fun read.

i love honey and the bees (their josie material makes them one of the most underrated girl groups of the 70s) but that cut is awful. i don't own the 45 but have it on one of dave brown's "philly girls" CDs.

have you heard that terrible (but rare) version of the companions' "be yourself" by honey and the bees on academy where they're singing in a fake british accent, clearly due to beatlemania? it was on ebay like a month ago, went pretty cheap for the rarity actually.

it's a silly point, if you guys somehow imbued the records with value and somehow deserved to take them across the seas, that you deserve to now keep the records, the same point can be turned around in on itself. If the germans, belgians, etc., now value the records more than you do and will pay more, the records will end up over there, right? Your own argument works against you, right? I'm not part of any northern scene but I also hear the same argument (on here) about how younger people outside the UK in places like Spain, Germany, etc. have a bigger scene and care more about the music now, shouldn't they get to have the music too since they care more? The whole reason they're paying more for the records and they're leaving your country is because there are collectors and a scene in other places where they care more about the music now, right? The people in your country that cared about the music are getting older and care less, right? I admit by the way that if people like John Anderson weren't shipping a lot of records from warehouses overseas a lot would have been destroyed, but shouldn't you have some basic respect for where the records came from in the first place, the original post definitely came across as pretty arrogant, it's not like you're talking about beatles records on parlophone where the records were produced by your own culture and you wanted to hold onto that somehow.

guess what, "your music" was taken "abroad" already from its point of origin where people came and paid pennies for records that were shipped overseas and sold for hundreds of pounds, pretty arrogant attitude for you to have.

I have asked brad before and didn't really get info, but I never specifically asked "do you know what #1007 is"?

the soul harmony singles book is just some random info without even a number (it's just the label name that they miust have thought was a number at the time), I've given one of the authors all the numbers above, I'm pretty sure there's not a deep down in my heart different version. Thanks for the tip though, I appreciate the digging.

Hi. Today on my radio show I did a music show and interviewed one of my favorite Bay Area groups the Masterplan, who also recorded as the Windjammers. You can listen to the radio show at the bottom of my shows page at https://www.sittinginthepark.com/shows.htm . You can listen to my interview at my interviews page at: https://www.sittinginthepark.com/interviews.html Playlist follows. Thanks. Sam Cooke - Just for you - SAR Lyrics - Keep me close to your heart - JWJ Edwin Johnson and the Mellow Fellows - You gave me love - Candi Bobby Williams - Play a sad song - Sure-shot Richard Brown - Sweet and kind - Steeltown Darius - Hello stranger - Chartmaker Entertainers - I want someone - Bowmar JR Bailey - The eyes don't know the feeling - RCA Jewel Aikens - What would you do? - Icepac Classics - Looking for a love of my own - Wide World Billy Stewart - I'm no romeo - Chess (LP) New Creation - Elijah Knows - Salaam Silk - I know I didn't do you wrong - Prelude (LP) Crystal Motion - You're my main squeeze - Sound Gems Persuaders - Sure shot - Calla Imperial Wonders - Mean ol' mistreater - Day Wood Four Mints - Too far gone - Capsoul (LP) thanks, Bob

that reminds me of a legit post to the thread though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_uMSd4xOM