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I think this is a known rockabilly record. No connection to the philly group. Label looks LA.

Maybe you should be more "aware" of the cultural context of the music you listen to? "Soul" and "Soul Music" are specific terms that became culturally important / frequently used directly in connection with the emergence of the elements of African-American consciousness / identity that was happening in the late 60s and early 70s -- e.g. changes in politics, clothing, hairstyles, food, attitudes, and every other cultural element. Obviously the meaning of words change but in this case it has a lot of baggage and is very closely tied to very specific things. The music "ceased to be produced" when the people producing the music and connected to the cultural movement ceased to use it as a term to describe their own music. It's problematic to reappropriate the word to describe other things because of its close connection with specific historical and cultural things. At least it should be done with an awareness of what the word came from. I would describe a lot of music today as "soulful" and maybe some throwback acts like Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings are able to capture an older sound and I would go so far as to call them "throwback soul" or something like that, but even those acts aren't making music in the specific cultural context that "soul music" comes from. Anyways, people need to chill out. I don't see why people should be nasty.

you are definitely correct on this point. The thread that started this debate though was whether there is real White soul music (not "northern soul").

Race is an extremely important factor in Soul Music. To deny is is to put your head in the sand. That doesn't mean that there's not good White soul artists or bad Black soul artists. But it was music mostly created by and produced by African Americans.

when records hit huge prices it's usually two people knocking it up, otherwise it goes much lower. probably a case of one very high bidder without another to match it.

here's a one by a White group:

I wasn't insulted! Falsetto harmony (slow or fast) is my absolute favorite soul sound. Here's another of my favorite records which is more northern: here's another killer sweet one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0a2PoLM3Gw

awesome thanks so much, I appreciate it

It's fine if you don't like it, different strokes for different folks. It just clearly sounds more like the Stylistics and Delfonics than the Four Seasons. The record is maybe my favorite record of all time, I can listen to it on repeat forever.

I'm sorry that you don't have any real points of comparison, apparently you haven't heard much 70s soul music.

I don't see how someone could think this is a White group. "I don't think I'll ever love another" is one of the greatest sweet soul records of all time, KILLER falsetto harmony (and much better than the recently hyped cover by the Darling Dears, which is good). The northern side is just okay.

I'm guessing sunioz has some info given their bumping of the thread

patronizing or not, I think he was just saying that the record would only be that important to you if you were on the northern scene 1970-1976. If anything, he was agreeing with you about the record being not that inherently great to other soul collectors. most dealers talk up their records for sale anyways, you reaction is sort of silly IMHO. for me, the record is just vaguely interesting due to it being chicago related. the fact that this thread makes it more of a "foreign" press actually makes it less interesting for me -- like a british or italian release of a US record... I know it was probably pressed in the US, it's just that it was not even intended for the US market.

you didn't post a link to your auctions, you posted a link to my ebay - items I'm selling which will not show the items that YOU are selling if anyone clicks on it.

awesome thanks so much. i added a number in the comments...

obviously it would be huge (with lots of stuff that isn't soul) but anybody ever attempt this? I would love to see one. Thanks.

wood glue cleaning works on vinyl, it's probably one of the worst things you can do to an acetate unless you're trying to pull it off the metal

I think preserving vs. cleaning is two different questions. If the acetate is not flaking, you can at the minimum rub the grooves with your finger (not fingernail) under running water. You can also go over it with a toothbrush and some soapy water and then rinse it with running water and put it in a rack to dry. I'm guessing part of the reason old acetates are dying might have less to do with how they were cut and more to do with how they were stored and what conditions they were exposed to. unfortunately i don't know the ideal conditions for preserving acetates.

everyone with the same slightly unusual first name is the same person everyone with the same last name are relatives

thanks so much I appreciate it

Can anyone tell me if Audio Arts 700 by the remarkables also comes on an "Audio art' label? I googled it and it's referenced a few places on that label but without photos so I don't know if it's a mistake or not. Also, does the label ever say "with Frank Wilson" or "with Vance Wilson" on it? I know the names are printed directly below the group names, just asking about the "with". Thanks in advance.

I always love how diverse the tracks are on your playlists. All the stuff you played past the early 80s stuff I have never ever heard of and there's a lot of quality stuff when listening.

I think puresoulie is jorg, not thorsten. Either way, it probably makes sense to wait for a reply first before a public airing.

yeah, you should definitely try lighter fluid or orange gum-out before steam, you don't want to expose a record to heat. an obnoxious packing experience i had was when someone put a 45 inbetween 2 pieces of cardboard and stapled it shut. not just a few staples but literally staples all around every side, it was horrible. I spent about 20 minutes prying staples open with a knife, by the time i got the record out it was cracked and had staple indentations all over it.

the title is "when you have love". the label is Mijarelix. I've had a copy for years, people started looking for it in the last few years. I actually got it when craig moerer first started doing ebay auctions, it must have been his first or second auction he ever did. it cost me much less than $900 then.