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all 3 of these youtube videos sound the same to me, just higher or lower fidelity (more or less muffled sounding). however, i'm suspicious of coming to any conclusions from them because lots of people make youtube videos from an audio file and a found image, who knows whether they actually match above.

also, what is the number of the solid gold release? there is one in popsike but without a release number. there is a second solid gold record by billups that is #2.

here are all the presses I know Helpp 003/4 Shake Off That Dream / Alone Seventy 7 127 Shake Off That Dream / Try Something New (both as eddie billups) Garpax 123 Shake Off That Dream (remixed) / Mrs. M (as eddie billips & The C.C.C.’s) Solid Gold Shake Off That Dream (remixed) / Alone (as Shorty Billups) is this correct? are there any more releases? are there two versions, and the seventy seven and helpp versions are the same and the garpax and solid gold releases are the same? also, do all versions feature a male group backing? thanks a lot.

thanks so much for the info everyone I really appreciate it

sorry, it must be my poor european country identification skills

man, you can't go wrong with those

This is totally a random question, but I'm wondering if anyone has any info on the singer Margie Mills who recorded on RCA and Vee Jay. After listening to her records I can't tell if she is Black or White or if her records are really soul or more "teen" type records. I googled and couldn't really find anything. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Hi, I'm looking for the ideals on cortland 115. I need it for the label number and don't need the version without this title. Also would appreciate a scan of this title if nobody has a copy to sell. thanks in advance.

awesome post

thanks so much, the comments give the names of the three singers and say they were occasionally joined by Jackie Edwards and Hazel McCauley. I guess they must be the "five" in Marvels Five. Do the other 35 45s sound like straight soul also or are most of them reggae?

I reread through this thread and now I'm confused. Why was the Marvels Five record (which got a US release on uptown) posted? Are the Marvels Five the same group as the Marvels (maybe plus 2 members)? Is one of the people on the pic sleeve Jackie Edwards? Anyone got a full discography of the soul records by this one (or two) groups? thanks in advance.

No, just pointing out the german sleeve that I have (on the injection label) is the same photo as the green sleeve but is an ugly brownish red instead of green. Thanks everyone for all the info on the group in this thread, I knew nothing about them and was interested in finding out more.

this sounds more like they were trying to find an excuse not to pay versus some specific rule about bubble wrap. Someone was telling me that they never successfully claimed against a record in new york because the post office people made stuff up every time about a record being too fragile, not insurable, etc.

that four arts was super cheap

I have the german release and my pic sleeve isn't green like the one pictured

thanks everyone for the info on the creations vs. prophets, i always thought they were the same and it was a straight reissue. i wonder why they changed the group name? maybe it's a different group?

Hi Phil. The Fiats, while recorded in detroit, is actually a new york group connected to the Lost Souls. Info here: https://www.venturemusicgroup.com/pmp/chs.htm Great record.

thanks i will check that out. do you believe is my favorite of the 4 on the EP.

thanks a lot for the info. I actually had heard that it was supposed to be side effect, but I would like more details / info. Side Effect didn't start recording until 1975 and the true effect EP has a (P) 1973 mark on it. If so, are they demos? was the group actually called True Effect? Who got ahold of these recordings and put them out? Or is the connection just speculation due to the "effect" thing being in common. Thanks a lot.

I will say that his grading now is significantly better than it used to be (if you can believe that). The new ebay DSRs and seller only negatives have forced some of the worst ebay sellers to improve (and I'm finding that some sellers who used to be crappy graders are now super conservative all of a sudden). Also, he no longer ships 45s inside an LP sleeve taped to the actual LP, which was not only unsafe but actually embarassing to get. All of that said, he could get significantly better and he'd still be one of the worst sellers.

I'm pretty sure the current seller's "VG" is significantly cleaner than the "VG-" one on ebay. You have to look at the photos and listen to the soundclips for clues. On soul source you have no idea if the person you're buying from is a conservative grader or not. And people here tend to be either really conservative graders or bad graders. Yet both types of people sell an "EX" record for the same price and you usually don't even have photos to gauge their grading. The majority of people I have dealt with here are pretty conservative graders though, it's just annoying to get a record from the few remaining sellers who are all the way at the other end. Almost nobody here is in the middle for some reason.

one of the sleaziest record dealers in history. this thread about him is funny: https://waxidermy.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=35722&hilit=nachoman

yes, i was able to find the copies that were on ebay.

Anyone know what's the story with the 4-song true effect silver label EP? Is it another group's material bootlegged or something? It also sounds like it's been taken off a cassette or something as it's low fidelity. Who pressed it up? I appreciate any info.

i only see the common summits on dc international on that page for 10 pounds, not the one manship sold. that webpage is awesome though, looks like it's been run through the geocitiesizer (https://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/) but it's not