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I guess I agree. I was just saying it doesn't make sense to ban either way. Also, saying that the buyers lose by only responding to sellers who state price and condition isn't any different than saying they lose by only responding to sellers that say "make me an offer". Another reason that the "make me an offer" situation can be much worse as if you are a collector who values something highly and you are interacting with a buyer who feels that that price is way out of line, you can create bad blood and tension between the two parties as the seller can be insulted and the buyer can think that the seller is unreasonable and doesn't really want to sell items. If the seller states price and condition, it's a much more professional transaction -- buyer can say yes or no or even make a counteroffer but you know from the start whether each party's expectations are so different that they should not proceed with negotiations

my logic is not "crooked logic". Wants is a buyer oriented forum. If an actual dealer responds to a buyer they should state what price they are looking to get and the condition. If someone is in the situation you are in where you will only sell if someone pays you enough money, that's fine, but I totally want to avoid people like that because they are usually unreasonable and looking for way more than the value. Most aren't even "sellers", they are collectors fishing for high prices. This is not directed at you, maybe you are very reasonable with your expectations, but in my experience that's not how it goes with most people. It's your prerogative to sell that way, and it's my choice to buy the way I want to. Nothing I'm saying is "crooked logic". The only thing that's makes no sense is saying that people should actually not be able to say "PM me with price and condition". Thanks.

this is true, but it will only show the last 30 days so you're limiting your exposure at least

I see your position, you have records that you don't really want to sell but would sell for the right price. As a buyer, I don't want to name a price and go back and forth bargaining, having to offer too much, etc. I would rather have someone tell me a price and condition and I can make a decision. It's fine if you want to respond with "offers" to a regular want but I really don't understand why you would want to ban posts asking for condition and price. If anything, that should be the normal case of someone who wants to sell a record, even though your case is also valid. Thanks.

I disagree with this. The "make an offer" thing is usually wishy-washy and I always feel like the seller is fishing for some crazy high offer. I would much rather have someone state the price they would sell it for. It sounds like you are not committed to actually selling it if you just are willing to sell if someone makes an insane offer. If you were committed to selling it you would know the minimum amount that you would consider selling at.

I believe you and it has happened to me too a bunch of times

Recently I pmed a seller and got no response. He posted a sales list a week later and I publicly posted "you never responded to my PM". He sent me one PM pissed, like "what are you talking about". Then an hour later he sends another PM apologizing and giving me payment info. I got the record in the mail today actually. Still not making excuses for the many people who blow off PMs, just saying that missing a PM clearly happened in this case.

I actually haven't ever seen one with that sticker...

mine doesn't have that

I wasn't disputing your theories about whether it was a studio group or not, just responding to your comment about why there would be a group name on a record that only had a solo singer. thanks.

I don't think they make any explicit promise of anonyminity and what they show and don't show has constantly changed. They also have other policies that are inconsistent (for example, DSRs are supposed to be anonymous but at the same time they gave sellers a user-by-user report of DSR scores).

ok I see this now, thanks for the tip!

is this the one where the other side credits "Hal" or some other artist? I might have an extra copy if that's it, I would have to look.

how do you see this? This would be useful.

if you don't use soul source a lot, it might be a while before you log on and you might not notice the tiny red number in the upper right hand part of the screen. I agree it's probably a BS excuse many times though.

In my experience, Butler's "a dream" shows up on a cream colored boo label (same design) more often than the red. Sorry I have no artist info for you.

if there is a record with a single singer with no backing group where a group name is credited, it's usually the name of a band

while I don't condone this behavior at all, it is easy to miss PMs if you don't use soul source a lot as the new defaults are set up to not email you at each PM. Also, if you get more than one PM it's easy to miss. p.s. Rod, sorry about your tits

thanks, someone else mentioned this gemm item to me too. now for years I'll be wondering if it was a mistake on gemm or if a real different record exists.

Definitely not Chicago. The names on the record are all Los Angeles.

what color is the label on the pat and the blenders? because all the stock copies i've seen with "candy man" on them have had a white label also (which is weird), was wondering if it comes in a black label.

I have one and it showed up in that condition. I don't think it's ever been on ebay. I think I got it less than what it goes for on the open market, especially since I got the Bob Miner-talks-down-the-dealer price.

Actually I just thought of one that annoyed me recently. I bought (years ago from a UK seller) a copy of the tran-sisters on pickwick city. I played it and both sides were some male rock group. I assumed that this was a totally unrelated group to the imperial group. I'd seen several others come up for sale and was like "look at those idiots buying that rock record". Then on ebay recently one comes up and sells for over $1000! I then figured out that my copy was a mispress and real copies do have the female group. I was so pissed. I think the $1000+ was a fluke, probably two rich lou reed / VU collectors bidding to win as he had something to do with the record.

this record is rare, but it's very rare on a black stock copy, most copies are white label

I posted this before in another thread, but I have a copy of joe anderson "you and i" that plays nazereth "love hurts". It's funny because it's very jarring to hear. I have a crappy chicago rock single that plays an awesome sweet soul record instead of the rock single (definitely mispress as the rock single exists as the single) and I have absolutely no idea what it is.