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I bet Andy Rix could figure out the unknown group

I sold this Eddie Holland in 2009

someone I know whose group did a show with them told me a story about their name, I don't know if this is true but this is what he told me. the group was managed by Stacey Hunt. Hunt had heart disease and bypass surgery was more invasive and less standard back then. He had his entire chest cracked open and survived the dangerous surgery due to the fact that he was strong willed. Hence the "Hunt's Determination Band".

I have to play them all to be sure but I think you got it correct. There are two versions, the Q version as Curly Myrick is first, then the Big C and Tamboo versions are second and the same as each other. The Big C record credits Caldwell Myrick Jr. and the Tamboo 45 credits Caldwell Myrick without the Jr. Different songs entirely, but he has one more record on Q and one more record on Newbary just crediting "Curly".

he sold a few soul records on ebay and any acetate is rare. He hasn't sold that many records at all on ebay and every random seller calls every obscure soul 45 "northern soul." He might even know more about "northern soul" than that, maybe he goes to his local "northern soul" night every month. I think you're reading too much negative intentionality into a short sales post. Anyways, he added audio of the b-side now.

both ebay items sold too now thanks to this thread. yesterday only one had sold.

i get the point, but playing dumb assuming people will find it anyways is a possible sales tactic EDIT: not that the seller is necessarily doing that here

there are two versions of it across 3 different labels, Q, TamBoo, and CCC

a record can be found anywhere. if it's regular elmer's glue (likely) it can be removed with water without damaging the nitrocellulose layer. Of course it's already damaged but someone could at least drop the needle on it.

deadwax on the blue label copy. Are we through: Handwritten "Earwax 101-A" and 180 degrees from it "209" followed by a long double dash or long equals sign I need love: Handwritten "Earwax 101-B" and much closer to it a "209 H6"

thanks everyone. i was pretty sure the elites 108 was an error, if anyone can produce evidence of a copy feel free to post.

also, what is the deadwax of the orange label copy on each side?

they sound pretty different to me from these clips, the blue copy mix is way muddier sounding. i don't know if that could be attributable to the recording or not, but it's much harder to hear the vocals. i wish i could hear the orange copy of "are we through" since that is the side i listen to and would be able to tell better.

thanks a lot!

Thank you, sorry I didn't fully process the info. I meant the deadwax info as Chalky said though. Thanks for your help!

you could ask the discogs seller if they would do 150 pounds

Cool color vinyl copy. Weird. Richard, thanks for the sugar ain't sweet explanation. Is there even more confirmation via matrix numbers, e.g. sugar ain't sweet has an earlier one than "what I want"? Thanks again.

a bunch of discographies (e.g. this one): https://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/hilite.htm list a second elites title on hi-lite: 108 — The Elites — Have You Got A Love / Trouble In Mind This has to be a mistake right? There is a seminoles number with the same titles, and the seminoles record probably would have been 108? This is the seminoles title: 87568/9 - The Seminoles - Trouble In Mind / Have You Got A Love I have never seen Hi-Lite 108 although I have seen the Elites on Hi-Lite 106 plenty of times. Can anyone confirm / deny the existence of this second Elites title? I don't think it exists and it seems likely accidental with the Seminoles titles being the same.

also, in that list, PR-1 is listed as a diana ross / marvin gaye single, did the number get reused? i keep meaning to start a thread on the buddah SP-# records, those are really interesting to me. A few things on curtom, a few things on buddah, etc.

I have the gloria taylor 45, didn't realize it was rare. My copy is kinda beat when my other ones of hers on selector sound are clean so maybe it is, i don't know. The really rare gloria taylor is the one on houseguests. I'm still confused, can anyone tell me whether Sugar and Sweet was the first press or second? I agree it is a mediocre track but it is stupid rare.

last night when i saw it for almost nothing i got confused, had to confirm to myself it was the real thing, and thought i might win it for $200 or something super cheap. i was wrong.

awesome, thanks so much!

Yeah, everyone needs a copy. I just noticed that pure magic "I care from you" from 1979, which was also a motown production with no label name, is PR-47. That means that there probably were motown products PR-2 through PR-46 that were released with no label names. Were all those released and anyone have any idea what they were?

can someone post a link to the post in the "audio forum" that has the two records?

I have a question about the two title variations of this record. I know "sugar ain't sweet" only exists on DJ copies. My question is -- are there both promo and stock copies with "what I want" or does "what I want" only exist on a stock copy? If promos do exist with "What I want", is "sugar ain't sweet" still definitely first? Thanks in advance.